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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:06 AM
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Please, please, please take a few moments to read this
This is an email I received tonight from the wife of a soldier who was wounded in Iraq. I have removed anything that could remotely identify her or her husband. Read it.

Read it, and then tell me how much you trust the polls.

Please ignore the stuff she says about me. That is a million billion miles from the point. Read what she went through, what her husband went through. There are over 18,000 families who have dealt with this to one degree or another, and 700+ more families who will never see their beloveds again.

Read it, and then tell me how much you trust the polls.

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Dear Mr. William Rivers Pitt,

It has been over a year since my husband was sent to Iraq. It was a year ago that I read your two books, 'War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know' and 'The Greatest Sedition is Silence'. It has also been over a year since I have wanted to write to you and let you know what an inspiration you are to me. I would start writing a rough draft or I would start to type you a letter and I just didn't send it. I think it was because I wanted it to be perfect. I'm not even quite sure what I mean by that. I'm hoping that this letter will be the one that I send to you.

When President Bush started making claims that Iraq was hiding Weapons
of Mass Destruction and he was trying to get the support of Congress to invade Iraq, I started making more time to read. I wanted to know more. I would read the newspaper everyday. I became a "CNN junkie". But most of all, I was an avid reader of your editorials and others on Truth Out.

I give a lot of credit to my mom for that. She would forward me your
articles before I started going to Truth Out. My mom ordered your two
books and I read them in awe. They were comforting and disturbing and
the same time.

Let me explain.

My husband, Sgt. ******* ***********, joined the U.S. Army six months before our wedding. We are both from ******** and we met in ******** at ********* State University. We were both having troubles with our classes and dreaded school. He decided to go to an Army recruiter. And it has been an eventful life ever since.

The middle of January 2002, my husband, was at work for the ********* ********* ******** as an intern at Ft. *******. He had been released from the ******* unit, ********* Battalion, ten months earlier to peruse his badge as a ***********. He found something that he enjoyed doing and that he was good at. During these ten months, he was waiting to get an actual ************** finalized and a school date for ******** to become an agent. Those ten months as an intern had to be put on hold.

In January of 2002, he got a call from the ********* Battalion saying that they had word that they were headed to Iraq and that he needed to report to them that next day. My heart dropped. Because he still hadn't had that **********, he had to go back to his original unit in time of war. From that point on, was when I decided to get more
informed about what goes on in our country.

On April 12th, 2002, my husband along with the ************** Group headed to Iraq. On that day, our son ********, who was born on our
anniversary, was 20 months old. It was a sad, agonizing day, yet a day of relief. The days leading up to this day were long, stressful and full of ups and downs. The date for when they were to leave kept changing. He could now get started on his year in Iraq and I could start counting down the days. But, I became a very angry American
from that day on.

A month into ********'s time in Iraq I started reading your books. They were a comfort to me. You inspired me to be more informed, to get
involved and to speak out. I still go to Truth Out daily and always look forward to your articles. I started going to Military Families Speak Out and Common Dreams.

On ****** ***th, 2002 I got a phone call from the ************'s Family Group Readiness Leader. She told me that because my husband was waiting for a school date that he was on a plane to the states along with a few other soldiers from the *****************, some of which were on stop loss and we now able to get out of the Army. I was visiting family in ********. I quickly packed our car and ******* and I headed back to Washington. I had about six phone conversations with this lady, and all assured me that my husband was headed home. On
our final conversation she gave me the flight information. My husband
was to fly into ******* Airport at around 12:15 am on Saturday the ***th.

I had bought my husband his favorite foods. I cleaned our apartment, I
bought him soap, a toothbrush and new warm clothes, knowing that he
would want to take a long shower and that he would be adjusting to the
weather. Our families were making arrangements to come visit. Many
people in our hometowns were told the wonderful news.

When ********* and I walked into the airport, I saw family members and
other soldiers from the ********** Brigade awaiting their loved ones
that were on the same flight. I had flowers, a U.S. flag and a camera.
Soldiers started coming of the plane and I watched loved ones hugged and cried with joy. But soon, there was no one else coming off the plane. A commander from the ********** came to me and asked me if my husband was with the ************** Unit. He told me that they had all headed down to baggage claim. I thought, "How could I have missed him? Maybe he got down to baggage a different way."

When I got to the baggage area I saw a soldier from *****'s Company that I recognized. He had his arm around his wife. When he saw me, he had a confused look on his face. I asked him where Sgt. ****** ******** was. Another soldier yelled out, "Hey ********, your wife is here." The person that came out of the crowd was not my husband. I dropped the flowers and almost dropped my son. I just said, "Oh my god! Oh my god!"

Another soldier asked me who I was there for. I told him Sgt. ******* ******* from ****** Company. He said, "This is Sgt. ***** ******** from ******* Company". He asked who told me and then said, "Someone made a mistake." I took off quickly toward the escalators. I was hysterical. I ran into a lady and her two sons on the way to pay for parking. I felt I couldn't get in enough air. It was so hard to breath. It wasn't until I called *****'s family from the cell phone in the car and it wasn't until *****'s dad said that I had to try to calm down before driving that I realized what my son was saying. "Mama, what happened? Mama, I'm scared!" I knew then that I had to relax for my son's sake. It took everything in me not to drive right on to base and raise a ruckus on the way back home.

That next day I went to the *************** building. I was getting little answers and I got only one apology. That apology came from a
Master Sergeant that had nothing to do with what happened. The stay back Group commander, the stay back Battalion Commander and the stay back Battalion Sergeant all avoided me and avoided my phone calls. Not one of them called me to apologize. I then notified Sen. ****** office, Sen. ****** office and Rep. ***** office. They were all trying to work with their sources at the pentagon to find out where ***** was and to get ***** to a phone. I just wanted him home. On Thursday the ***st, my mom contacted the local paper here in ******. I was ready to go public.

On the morning of Friday, ****** **nd, I received a call from ******'s
father, ****. He had gotten a call from *****. (The nurse had to dial
for *****.) ***** was injured badly. It would be a couple of days
before they could get him to the states partly because of his injuries. All I knew at the time was that he had burns to his hands, legs and face. The Army notified me a couple of hours later. By that time I had headed back to ******* where my son would be staying with *****'s parents when I flew out to see him wherever they decided to take him. But, before I left the house, I got a call from a Lt. ***** who was the stay back commander for the ***************.

She asked if I was ***** ********. I said it was. She then said, "I am calling to tell you to be quiet about the situation." I told her I didn't know what she meant. She then said, "You know what I'm talking about." I said, "No. I don't know what you mean. And if you don't tell me what you are talking about I'm going to hang up." She said, "The situation about your husband." I asked, "What situation?" She said, "About your husband being injured." I asked her if she meant I couldn't tell family members and she said that I could, that I just couldn't tell other wives. I then got very angry. I told her that I was very angry that she didn't call to apologize about the mistake. I told her that being at that airport and not seeing ***** get off that plane was one of the hardest things that I've ever gone through.

I told her that the unit needed to work on their communication. I told her that I didn't appreciate her call, not only because I had left her three messages about the mistake, not only because she hadn't yet apologized for it, but because I knew the only reason she was calling me, was to make sure that families wouldn't hear of their soldiers injuries by word of mouth. I told her that I believe the only reason she was calling was to save her own hide and that it was very disrespectful.

We got to ******* and I started making preparations to go to ****** ***** Medical Center in *******************. That is where my husband was headed. A few days later the Army flew me out of ********* to be with him. When I got to the hospital I saw a man that was in so much physical and mental pain. His hands and legs were wrapped. He looked like he hadn't eaten at all while he was there. His hair and ears were scorched, but his face wasn't burned too badly. We hugged and cried. I was afraid that I was going to hurt him if I hugged too hard. The scrubbings of his burns twice a day were unbearable for him. He would scream. The next two weeks, were long. We talked, but he didn't really say much about what went on while he was in Iraq. He did tell me about the accident.

He and five other soldiers were headed to take over a guard shift at and ammunition site north of ******. They were hit by a I.U.D. Three men were thrown out of the back of the truck. One was tossed around inside with heavy gear falling on him. The driver and my husband, who were in front, got tossed in the air and landed back down in their seats. ******* thought he was dead. He then yelled, "Get out!" The bomb had gone off in front of ***** and the truck was on fire. ******* and the driver had to climb out of the windows because the doors would not open. When ****** got out he noticed his pant legs were and fire and began rolling on the ground to get the fire out. ***** and the others could have easily lost their lives.

******** is well now. He is currently at ********* in ********. He will be gone from us again until August of this year. He still wears
pressure gloves on his hands for the burns and will hopefully be able to take them off this August.

During *********'s 30 days of leave after he got released from ************** Medical Center, it took a while for things to get better for him mentally. On the flight back he was nervous that ******** wouldn't remember who he was. He didn't want a huge group to welcome him home. His parents, his sister and **** were the only ones there. It took a couple minutes, but ********* warmed up to him and knew exactly who his dada was.

Once an avid reader, ****** didn't pick up a book for weeks. He was very depressed. It was hard for him to play with ******** because of his injuries and that upset him. He hated to have to have someone open a car door or a soda can for him. He didn't want to do anything. He didn't want to see anyone. He wondered how the others that were injured were doing. On of the hardest things for me was to hear him say, "*****, I love you and ****** to death. But, if they would let me, I would go back." I just wanted to be a good listener. It was hard to understand his reasoning's, but I also know that my husband hates not finishing a job. He said it felt like he got pulled out of a job too quickly.

I believe that is wasn't his or any other's soldiers' job to be there in the first place. He left his fellow soldiers who were like family to him. Later on during those 30 days of leave, he got a call from his platoon sergeant from Iraq. He cried his eyes out. He loved hearing this sergeant voice. After that phone call, was when ***** started feeling better.

All of these events and more have impacted my life greatly. On top of
that, the war makes it even harder. My husband is finally in ********
school, but will have to re-enlist for a minimum of three years after
finishing. I know that being a ****** agent will help him get experience so that he can get a job in a similar area as a civilian. He would love to work for the F.B.I for instance. It makes me nervous that the next three years of our lives with the Army he may be sent back to Iraq. I know that that chance is there. I know that there isn't any way to completely prepare for it. I know of many soldiers that were in his platoon with him in Iraq that have chosen to get out of the Army.

I am a stronger person now though. I am stronger because of not only of the events in our lives, but because of you. You have opened my eyes. You have made me care about our country. I thank you for all your hard work. I often wonder if you ever sleep. Because of you, I am an even more patriotic American. You are also a hero. You are a hero to me. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

********** **************
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:15 AM
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1. Oh, God, Will, Please, with your words, please help us all.
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 01:18 AM by anarchy1999
For these families and all the families in Iraq. Please. This one hurt, way too much! Our kid, our brother, our sisters, they should not be forced to live through this. This is a crime.

Thank you, Will. And I am so sorry.........

on edit/ I can't stop crying.............

Trust the polls? Never have and never will.
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Jesus H. Christ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:19 AM
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2. I think the polls are bullshit.
Whether or not they're accurate they're irrelevant this early. I won't be even remotely interested until after the conventions.

As for your post, I think it would be good to substitute pseudonyms instead of asterisks, at least for the main players, as it would make it easier to follow and a lot more personable.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:21 AM
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3. See, this isn't Vietnam
Its even worse. The powers that be are leaning on wounded veterans and distraught wives. My. How mighty they are, these warriors of the far right.

I still want GWB for three rounds in a boxing ring. Just three rounds ...
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:24 AM
Response to Reply #3
10. Oh please! I wish one of you guys could get a chance with him
Really. Any of you, in any fair fight.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. I'd go straight for the jimmy.....
...screw fair. :D
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:30 AM
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15. You wouldn't have to
Drop him like a bad habit 1:22 into round one.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:35 AM
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18. Drop him like a bad transmission, dude ...
Rip it down and dump it in the trash.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #12
17. Naw ...
I wanna wipe that smirk off his coke head frat boy chicken hawk face.

Then ... when he is dazed, confused, defeated, with an eye swelling shit ... and only then ... go for the jimmy.

:evilgrin:

(I promise to work on my aggression issues. Later. Honest. I will.)
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:56 AM
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26. I wouldlove my Nam vet husband 101st Special Forces to wipe his smirk off
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 01:57 AM by vetwife
He couldn't handle the stare down, much less what hubby could show him a little of what he missed out on in 70-71 in the jungle..not Alabama.

He said and I believe him, if he ever sees the Monkey in person and with that patch on (screaming eagle) he will tell not ask him to remove it.
He didn't earn it. Same thing for Rummy. Just five minutes with the Monkey against this 101st Special Forces Bronze star Indian. Mine would not blink. Monkeyboy would hide and rightfully so. He would put the Fear of God in him, from someone who has been there and done that.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #26
44. OK ... your hubby gets first crack at him
I get whatever he leaves over.

Salutin' yer dude ...

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:35 AM
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41. Yeah, those Busheviks are REEEAL TOUGH
The way they tried to intimidate that yound women into silence?

Hitler and Stalin's Boys, had they been forced as the Busheviks currently are to perform their intimidations non-violently, could have done no better.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:12 AM
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43. I wouldn't need 3 rounds. It would be done in 60 seconds.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:21 AM
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4. I read it all, very moving - but I have to ask an honest question...
..I mean no disrespect when I ask this, okay?

What does this have to do with believing or not believing polls? For every story like this, I have been shocked and horrified at an equal number of stories from families who have literally LOST their Son's and daughters who support Bush and the war and believe their son's or daughters died doing their patriotic duty for what's right and just. I hear that all the time. In fact, just recently I watched a local family from Idaho stand there and talk about how noble and right their son's death was, and how much they believe in the President.

It's unclear which sentiment will ultimately win out. And that, I believe is the most honest statement that can be made right now. The most truthful inference we can make from all the "polls" and everything else in the country is that people are pretty much dead split and evenly polarized between those who continue to support Bush and those who don't.

It's gonna be a rough year..
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:23 AM
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8. It has this to do with polls
There is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more happening in America than Zogby or Rasmussen can touch. I neglected to mention the 135,000 families who live in low terror because of this war.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:27 AM
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11. I hope so.
All I know is that every single person I personally know who has relatives in Iraq, SUPPORTS the war... its insane.. I'm sure there are families out there that don't as well, but I don't personally know any of them. Of the twelve different families I know, all of them support Bush. Some of them have had their loved ones wounded there, but none of them killed (thank god.)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:29 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. That support
is based on the low terror I described. I hear from a lot of families, many of whom support the war. We go back and forth. Through it all is fear, and a barely contained anger.

It sucks out loud. These people should not be part of any political equation. But this is a political war, and so there they are. It sucks out loud.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #13
21. Oh, I see what you're describing.
I hope that's right. :)

Keep up the great work, Will.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:45 AM
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23. they were brainwashed into believing
that if they didn't support their men in iraq, they were unpatriotic. this was DRILLED into americans after 9/11 by the chimp and the media. some of us saw through the bullshyt, some didn't and still don't.

the fight is not over by a long shot.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:01 AM
Response to Reply #11
27. There are military families out there
that are against this war. My husband spent 10 months in Iraq and I DO NOT, NEVER HAVE, and NEVER WILL support this war. There are those of us out there. Some, like Mari333, are vocal about it. Some are quiet because of what the military and other military family members threaten. Me, I tend to be a little more quiet mostly because my rage is so great that I am afraid to let it out. It didn't end after he came home, and I know it won't end anytime soon because in 2005 my husband will be going back to Iraq.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:18 AM
Response to Reply #11
34. What is going to happen to just one of these familys' when a son or
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 05:21 AM by anarchy1999
daughter dies of wounds sustained in battle, what will happen when two or three of them come home missing a limb or two, what and how will the family handle depleted uranium contamination?

Check back on those 12 families in a couple of years...........

Better yet, get to know some Vets now.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:40 AM
Response to Reply #8
37. Very heart wrenching letter....
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 06:41 AM by pjeffrey4444
I happen to believe what Randi Rhodes spoke of yesterday. Polls are a simple matter of statistics and if the poll respondent numbers are low the poll is essentially meaningless. You don't begin to get an idea of how people think until you get into 1000+. How many of these "polls" are so large. I believe that fox and cnn and msnbc trot them out as simple propaganda. I agree it can be disheartening but plz remember we need to keep our eyes on the ball and vote this miserable cartel out in Nov.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:22 AM
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5. Thanks for sharing that Will-
What an honest and heart-felt assembly of words.
Hope you spread it wide and far.
God Bless that young family and
God damn the Neo-conazis.
(((Hugs)))
BHN
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:22 AM
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6. Why did they mix up the names?
Were there two Sgt. Smiths? And why does he have to go RE-ENLIST? He has horrific burns but he must re-enlist? WHY?

I am crying for these families. This is not right.

Who knew that one Chimp could cause so much misery.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:40 AM
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22. Paperwork errors happen
Edited on Wed Apr-21-04 01:41 AM by robg
But they should have bent over backwards apologizing to this woman and helped her immediately find out what was going on. Stat. Asap. Right away.

Instead, they warn her to play nice and cover it all up.

I assure you this kind of thinking on the part of junior officers flows down from the top. This is what happens when you let a gaggle of chicken hawk right wing wankers take the country to war.

We just gotta find ways of beating these moral degenerates politically. We gotta wake people up.

(Edited. Fixing typos. Stuck keys. Gotta get a new keyboard.)
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:17 AM
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31. How do you wake up someone who won't even let you talk?
I've been told to keep my mouth shut. Even if I were allowed to open it, I'm not sure what I could say. My disaffection with the Greedy Old Party started out as a gut feeling and even though I now know many facts, I don't think I could think well enough on my feet to have a debate just yet.

The only things I can do:

1) Join the local peace group.
2) Join the local Democratic club.

I don't know what else to do. I'll try to attend the peace meetings and find out more about the local Democratic Party. Maybe I can contribute somehow.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:44 AM
Response to Reply #31
36. LadyHawk, go to the meeting of your local peace group.
or to the Dems or both. At each you will find at least two or three like minded individuals that want to spend more time with you for what you have to share.

It is the only way to stay sane in these times. You will find friends.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:22 AM
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7. oh fucking hell
I could feel my stomach drop during the passage from the airport. How unimaginably horrible. So very sad, enraging, and many, many emotions I cannot express.
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:36 AM
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20. Really gets me Irish up, Zomby
That is just sadistic. Indifference to the point of cruelty. Bastards.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:24 AM
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9. for what? why do people like these
have to go thru this? why? every time i read about what these guys and their loved ones go thru i just ask why. i told my 18 yr old daughter i never thought that this was going to happen again. i thought we had progressed into a future where war would be the last resort..but no.
good men and women dieing for who?-not us- but a coward.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:30 AM
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14. A sad story from this bogus war. Wake up America.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:31 AM
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16. How horrific for her,
I so deeply hurt that people need suffer this way and that our government treats them so shabbily.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:35 AM
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19. Touching...Powerful Stuff
You should send it to your Man Kerry and see if he might find a way out of supporting Bush's war...

"It`s frustrating. They`re like little gnats that you can`t get away," said Captain James McGahey, a company commander of the 101st Airborne Division who says almost every one of the patrols he sends out in the northern city of Mosul gets stoned.
Another Diary Entry of sorts...



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dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:47 AM
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25. those photos sure look like liberation
"coalition of the willing style"
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wasichu Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:47 AM
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24. Does she know you want to send him back
for the occupation of Iraq?
God knows you aren't going to enlist.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #24
28. Why should someone who DOES NOT
support this illegal war and occupation enlist?
I much prefer that Will stay here and use his
pen as the sword that will cut through the
fog of IGNORANCE that has settled on the minds
of the 'Murikkkan people.
He can do far MORE good here.
BHN

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:09 AM
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29. Don't bother
but thanks.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:18 AM
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32. Knee is jerking...
It is precisely this type of idiocy and illogical thinking
that I want you to to keep your pen loaded for combat against.
IF you had ever once publically stated support of the ME dabaucle
the poster would have a point- but the thought process
displayed IS the insanity that has gripped our collective consciousness.
The remark would be logical, sensible even, were it made
to a Pro-war individual.
But directed to YOU?

Up is down.
Black is white.
Time for scotch
and so Good Night.
BHN
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:35 AM
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35. Will, I am coming in late and behind, but BHN is right.
We need you here, speaking louder than you ever have We need you here, Will.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 02:12 AM
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30. S*** Just S***.......
.....Thanks Will. :evilfrown: :kick:
Our thoughts are with her and her family.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:10 AM
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33. One question about dates
the only year mentioned is 2002 (4 times). Is that a typo while you were copying and editing to remove the identifying remarks? It implies there were people coming back injured by the end of 2002 - either a mistake, or a far bigger story than anything we've seen so far.
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Point_n_click Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:19 PM
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52. Indeed.
The very same question struck me about the dates.

Some clarification would be appreciated especially since we keep catching the repugs because of mistakes in dates. Last thing we need is the same thing sapping our credibility.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:06 AM
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38. It happens a lot more times than is shown on the TV......
...and the realization that words can have such an impact on our lives is a lesson in humility for us all.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:12 AM
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39. OMG -
this letter needs to published in the NY Times.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:26 AM
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40. x99999...
The pain unleashed by this senseless war goes far beyond words.

Thank you to the woman who wrote for sharing her part of this horrible experience.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:02 AM
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42. Moving. Tragic.
I'm glad to see you're still around, SirWilliam!

:toast: :toast:
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:46 PM
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45. kick
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:03 PM
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46. Thanks for sharing that Will
It is the comments from vets and military families
that keeps me going . When I think of my husband
and son .. I just know there is something more I
can do to help those with family oversees in military .

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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:23 PM
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47. He wanted to go back? Did I miss something?
The only issue I have is the military warning families of the injured not to talk about "the situation." That's horrific.

I simply cannot comprehend someone wanting to return to the senseless war Bush started.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:36 PM
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48. My father in law
He had gone to Korea, come home and trained youngsters to ship off to Vietnam, Sgt. Major, to try to keep them human and alive. Several years later he left with the troops for Vietnam. Folks at home didn't hear from him for about a month. Eight months later they got word that he was wounded with a poison bamboo spike in the shin. He got sent stateside. The leg wouldn't heal (the best they could do for him was to tell him to pour hydrogen peroxide in the wound), but he got up from his desk job because he was a Marine and started training youngsters to ship out again, telling them if they were in trouble to write or call him. He started to get letters from hospitals saying they were giving them the choice to go back into combat or they could sign a paper disavowing any responsibility on the military's part for their injuries and they could go home. He started calling these kids over there from the barracks in Quantico telling them to be careful what they signed and he got in trouble. The Marines said they were going to send him back as punishment despite the wound in his leg and six kids at home, or take the early out. He took the early out. It cut the medical coverage for the kids, it cut his pay down. His leg never healed.

I wonder if that early out is even an option these days? Most likely not. Anyhow, that's my two cents. We put these folks in a hard place with our politics. Dad in law called it the moving of a line on a map that wiped out many of his friends, collegues, and students. We are wrong when we, as a nation, turn away from those who are at the tipping point of our foreign ambitions.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:55 PM
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49. Some of these women are so damned young. Poor baby. He wants to
go back because unlike Viet Nam, they trained these
guys in units and they love each other. You don't fight
wars for politics and crap, you fight them for the guys
on either side of you. I wish I could hug them both.

I have six kids in my family that will be draft bait next
year if dimsun gets in again. I have my pitch fork ready.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:03 PM
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50. this should be on the front page of every paper
in the country. Unfortunately, it wont be, because people are in denial, and they prefer Fox news crapola.
send her this website if you want Will
www.mfso.org
thanks for posting this.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:07 PM
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51. Thanks Will...
Jesus...
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freeforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:23 PM
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53. Thanks Will
She sounds like an amazing woman, and I wish their family well.
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:42 PM
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54. This soldier seems to express what I've heard from every one of
the wounded inteviewed. They want to go back. They want to finish the mission. They want to do their job. Now, tell me how many people when they hear that respond by hating Bush?? Unfortunately, this pumps up pro-Bush sentiment because people think they are being horrible to these wounded if they attack the man they are so proud to serve. Could you look this guy in the eye and tell him that he's fighting an illegal, lying war?? Could you tell him that he's stupid to follow Bush?? I didn't see anything in that e-mail that said they did not support Bush or the war. She is afraid for her husband but she tells of how hearing from his sargent pulled him out of the depression. This, unfortunately, is the circular trap that is keeping Bush in power and, thus, poised to start even more war. I was hoping as I read that she would reveal that she, her husband and her husband's family had turned on Bush.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 04:33 AM
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55. can't sleep, kick
for the morning crew
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 06:20 AM
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56. Thank you for posting this Will. I don't know what else to say n/t
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:08 AM
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57. How horrific for this miltary wife
for such a stupid mix up. Then to be told to keep quiet about it! :grr: :argh: :grr:

Thank you for sharing Will. It's good to know that at least some military families (outside of the ones who post to DU) read your work.

I admire all these injured soldiers who want to go back and help their buddies. But depending on the severity of their injuries, it's not always the best thing.

I hope it is true that military support for * is shallow and will turn as Iraq burns.



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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-04 07:19 AM
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58. She must have felt unbelievably abandoned., almost invisible.......
Hope she discovers a support network which can help them.

What a shock for you to discover one of your readers has been living through this.

Very glad to have read your post. Wish the best for her and her husband and children.
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