Bush wants death penalty expanded to 23 more crimes?

[AGD4y2357y]

I got this from the ACLU earlier today. Am I the only one that gets creeped out about this? I know the Nazis were big on very broad all encompassing crimes that carried the death penalty. Never thought I'd see it here.

"Despite being stymied in its efforts to push a successor to the controversial USA Patriot Act through Congress, the Bush Administration is urging the U.S. House to pass a piece of this legislation that would dramatically expand the federal death penalty, including expansion based on the PATRIOT Act's infamous "domestic terrorism" provisions.

Not only would this proposed legislation create 23 new death penalties in one stroke, the bill also creates an unprecedented catch-all death penalty for any crime that meets the PATRIOT Acts overbroad definition of terrorism. "

More here: http://www.aclu.org/NationalSecurity/NationalSecurity.cfm?ID=15502&c=24

[BostonTeaParty04]

1. I am creeped out.

Ashcroft got all wispy and excited when he talked about this in the 9/11 commission.

And I have decided that the commission's sole goal/purpose is to set the foundation for justifying all out fascism here...

Welcome to DU! :-)

[Kat45]

2. Whoa!

He really loves that death penalty, doesn't he? That is scary.

[kentuck]

3. Yeah..people that put firecrackers in a frog's ass and throw them ......

in the air just to see them blow up should be given the death penalty. Can we add that one?

[Mz Pip]

4. I wonder if BushCo will decide

that dissent is domestic terrorism. I'm sure Ann coulter could write one of her ignominious essays justifying such a rule.

MzPip
:dem:

[ComerPerro]

8. That is what terrifies me most about the patriot act

People who defend the act say that it is a good thing because it gives the government unquestioned authority to go after terrorists who want to hurt America.

Yeah, that's well all and good, but could someone please define what exactly is a terrorist?

They can say anything they don't like is terrorism...

Shit, they are already using "narko-terrorism" to describe drug offenders.

[sandnsea]

15. Definition of terrorist

According to the FBI memo on the Patriot Act:

"The term is defined to mean activities occurring primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States involving acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or any state and appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping."

I understand this to mean acts that threaten people that are intended to intmidate or coerce, influence policies, or affect the conduct of government. I'm not sure you have to be planning mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping to be qualified as a terrorist according to this definition.

[The Traveler]

5. Fascism

Fascism. Pure and simple. All the building blocks are being put in place. All the tools legal and otherwise to "bootstrap" the American system from a democracy to a fascist regime are being prepared. There can no longer be any doubt.

I call it treason. All these assclowns took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution from all enemies, domestic and foreign. They themselves are its greatest enemies.

Given the level of their understanding of what the American flag represents, I am amazed the Bush administration does not use it to wipe their asses. They might as well.

If these guys have their way, this country will soon represent no worthwhile ideals at all.

[Kool Kitty]

6. So let me get this straight-

these people are supposed to be the *ahem* pro-lifers, right?

[teryang]

7. This is meant to intimidate Americans

...not terrorists.

[Solly Mack]

9. America is not a police state (keep repeating)

Repeat..America is not a police state.
Repeat..America is not a police state.

Hey!?!?!?! I thought if you repeated a lie often enough it became truth? :shrug:

[ConcernedCanuk]

10. What is it with this "born-again" CHRISTIAN and his love for killing?

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From his not to distant past

Clik on them, they are both links!






and read about the INNOCENT people that got "fried"

ain't thousands of innocents in Iraq enough for this maniac??

[Guaranteed]

11. Yeah, that IS messed up.

But this is just everyday stuff, now.

[Skittles]

12. pretty soon dissent will be one of them

:o

[PurityOfEssence]

13. Is blasphemy on the list?

Surely we gotta round up the non-believers...

[starfiend15]

14. Scary Stuff

I wonder if America would ever be able to rid itself of the dishonor that is the death penalty

[AGD4y2357y]

16. You know it just occured to me...

What happens when you mix broad death penalty law that could apply to what could easily be a misdemeanor with....

1. Military tribunals
2. Secret arrests
3. No right to an attorney

All things that are already in place....

[bloom]

17. I can't believe this guy

Unlike nothingshocksmeanymore, I continue to be shocked, again and again.



:puke:

[ngGale]

18. I've known about that too and...

think this info will hit FOX? Makes it that much more important we as American's are not labeled 'enemy combatant.' And we can be for protesting a war, etc.