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marshmellow Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 12:42 PM
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Mommy, what is Quid Pro Quo?
Who is the largest contributor in money and ads to the election campaign of Republicans?

Who is the biggest benefactor of engineered high unemployment?

1. Gun Lobby

The crime wave of tomorrow has its seeds of high unemployment planted today.

Mix in drugs,(the forgotten war)add robbery and you have the recipe to sell 20 million new handguns for personal protection.

That equals $10 billion dollars in sales.

But high unemployment also is a favorite of cheap labor conservatives.

With the new pressure on corporations to pay dividends from tax cut legislation, labor costs will continue to be minimized as means to produce higher profits.

So, dividend tax cuts and the NRA will not allow job growth to interfere with their goals.

So use your stock dividends and get behind your gated community now before the rush.


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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 12:51 PM
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1. I'm not so sure
The corporate lobby fares better when unemployment is high, all other things being equal; however, high unemployment usually comes along with falls in the stock market that reduce profits - unless, of course, the corporation can maneuver its way to bankruptcy and enrichment of its executives like Enron did.

The gun lobby has a fiscal interest in more crime but also an ideological interest in less crime. The NRA and Libertarian gun nuts would prefer gun crime to be lower because it makes people think guns are more for self defense and less for crime and that the people can use them responsibly, whereas high gun crime rate make people think that the right to bear arms mainly produces increased gun casualties.
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:50 PM
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2. I can't argue with anything you said. BUT . . .
gun control is a LOSING issue for dems. The best thing to do is take back the WH and the Congress and THEN do something about gun control. If gun control is part of your platform, you can forget winning in the south.
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 01:57 PM
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3. I agree, and it always will be a loser
Of course, it is mostly a 'liberal' issue, not a leftie one. Lefties in general are in favor of keeping the whole Bill Of Rights.
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redeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 02:27 PM
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4. What does the bill of rights have to do with anything?
The Supreme Court, and by extension constitutional law, is there to decide what it means and enforce it. Congress, and by extension political science, is there to change it if the voters want it changed.

Free speech isn't good because the first amendment implicitly says so. It's good because history shows that freedom of speech is crucial to a) the people's mental welfare, and b) the government's ability to receive sufficient feedback from the people in order to make intelligent decisions. Democracy isn't good because the constitution outlines the structure of a democratic republic, but because it's proven to be the worst form of government except all other alternatives. And so on. Similarly, if gun rights are good, then it's not because of the second amendment but because of statistics about guns, crime, and self-defense.
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