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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:09 PM
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Will a $700 billion deficit wake America up?
Will it even matter?


According to a Bartcop, Sen. Fritz Hollings says that the real deficit for this year is $698 billion. Supposedly, it even says so on page 57 of the White House budget report. If this number is true, that works out to about $7,000 per house hold. It is about 7% of the GDP. Get ready for some serious inflation.

This is what happens when you put a credit card conservative in charge of the economy.
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:11 PM
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1. No.
As long as they can buy shoes (made in China) for $9.99, WTF do they care?
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:13 PM
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2. I doubt it
Once you get above a few million, the magnitude of the problem is lost on most people. Now if he media would regularly report how much this is for each taxpayer, and how much of the taxes you pay each year are thrown away on interest payments, it might have an impact.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:16 PM
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3. check this out
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Brian Sweat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:20 PM
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We've already seen this.
It's horse manure.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:24 PM
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6. either way it's a retirement deficit
when we grow old, there will not be a proportional amount of money available to the retirement population which will affect the growth of the economy and maybe the stability of society
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:20 PM
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4. NO
the American public simply doesn't understand figures that large OR what it means to the future of America. And don't count on the corporate press to inform them.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:20 PM
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5. Anyone care to hazard a guess at who's getting rich
off the insane interest payments U.S. taxpayers are making on the national debt?
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ferg Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:27 PM
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8. the Chinese and Japanese
Although, they're not really getting rich, since interest rates are pretty low.

But one of the main reasons our interest rates are low is because the Chinese and Japanese are subsidizing us by buying treasuries.
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:37 PM
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13. I wouldn't be so sure about getting rich . If you are holding dollar
denominated securities, you may be taking a beating on the falling dollar.
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MiltonLeBerle Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 04:18 PM
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14. the uber-rich.
they hold the t-bills that offer a rock-solid return on investment. One of the reasons repukes love deficits.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:26 PM
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7. actually, I don't think inflation will be able to grow us out of this
interest rises will likely slow growth, the deficits have created a lackluster economy which will limp along or crash altogether until it is taken in a drastically new direction like in 1993
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:28 PM
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9. To the average American, it doesn't matter.
And you are right, if this deficit keeps growing, a rise in interest rates and further economic pain will ensue.
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duid12 Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:28 PM
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10. probably not
>>Will a $700 billion deficit wake America up?

Probably not, but it will matter a *great* deal to the republicans when there is a democrat in the oval office and s/he overspends by even $1...because then they can campaign as the party of smaller, leaner, more effecient government again...

nobody cares about the deficit anymore...deficits are good, nobody ever has to pay them back...its like free money...we are only paying interest to ourselves anyway...</sarcasm off>

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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:31 PM
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11. credit card conservative
That phrase is great! Everyone gets the concept.....You should copyright it..
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 03:31 PM
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12. No, but I do think
it's time we all start subtracting out the social security surplus that masks the "real" defecit. We should call it 700 billion and keep social security out of the budget equation. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be in anyone's interests in Washington to do that, and it never has been.
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MiltonLeBerle Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 04:20 PM
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15. no. The numbers mean nothing to them.
nt
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-03 05:02 PM
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16. only because it's election time so i say "yes"....otherwise it's Kobe and
gay priests shoved down our throats.
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