Am I the only one who was disappointed with Kerry

[whosinpower]

I listened to the Bush/Sharon joint press briefing with disbelief over this administration "over the top support" of Israel's plan of disengagement.

Bush scuttled his own road map to peace. And why oh why did Kerry give them his blessing??????????? More and more, Mr. Kerry defines himself as the same as Bush. I say this with great concern, for I feel rather strongly that the problem with the current administration IS their policies, not just the way they are administered.

Am I the only one who was very very disappointed with Kerry over this stand? And I say this not because I am sympathetic to the palistinian cause - well I am actually, just as I am sympathetic to the Israel cause.........an honest impartial broker to peace would NEVER do what Bush has done.

Someon help me to understand why the US consistantly and faithfully turns a blind eye to Israel indiscretions and kowtows to whatever Israel seeks. Where is the history to show me why the US must always take Israel's side?

[orwell]

1. ?

Where did Kerry support *'s new Sharon fellatio?

Link please?

O

[NewYorkerfromMass]

3. He didn't. Kerry knows Bush has fucked up again.

what BS.

[whosinpower]

12. I read it right here on DU yesterday

I was trying to find the link, but it is right here on DU somewhere.

[Freddie Stubbs]

22. Here is a link

Kerry agrees with Bush on Israel's plan to allow a Palestinian state without the right of return for refugees: “I've always felt that the right of return is contrary to the viability of a Jewish state, and that is what Israel is.”

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/8442928.htm

[orwell]

34. Thanks

Thanks for the link. It seems that Kerry supported the Bush roadmap as a starting point. Why are many now calling Bush's recent flip walking away from the roadmap? I would like to see something more substantial than a one liner from a Kansas newspaper before I pass judgement.

From JFK's website:

“Americans’ security depends on helping the people of the Middle East see and act on a legitimate vision of peace.”
John Kerry believes that history and our own best interests demand that the United States maintain a steady policy of friendship and support for Israel. As the only true democracy in the Middle East, Israel is our most important ally, and a critical partner in the quest for peace and security in this troubled region. America’s longstanding commitment to Israel’s independence and survival must never waver.

Forging a stable and lasting peace in the Middle East is vital to American national security, to the security of Israel and other countries in the region, and to the aspirations of the Palestinian people for a viable Palestinian state. It is also an essential part of winning the war on terror. Ignoring or downplaying the conflict, as the Bush Administration did for far too long, is a dangerous game.

From his many trips to the region, John Kerry knows that a majority of Israelis and Palestinians want peace and that Israelis expect there will be a Palestinian state. Energetic American leadership is essential to helping them achieve that peace because the United States is the one country with the ability to work with all the parties to facilitate a necessary and meaningful dialogue. John Kerry sees the Bush Administration's road map - albeit long overdue - as an acceptable approach for reinvigorating the peace process. But it will only be viable if U.S. engagement in this process is active, constant, and at the highest levels. The United States cannot walk away or lessen its commitment to this process when violence erupts and the going gets rough. Failure to remain actively engaged will lead to further difficulties down the road and set the prospects for peace farther back. John Kerry believes we must work actively to encourage an end to the violence and to help the parties take the steps outlined by the road map - which both Israelis and Palestinians find difficult. And we must be realistic about what they can and cannot accomplish.

While no country can dictate the terms of peace, those opposed to peace can destroy its prospects. Israelis and Palestinians committed to peace cannot let that happen yet again. Progress toward peace cannot be made against a backdrop of terrorism and violence; they are not legitimate tools to achieve political goals.

Prime Minister Qureia must take serious, demonstrable steps to stop the bombings against Israelis and to rein in militant Palestinian groups bent on destroying the peace process. In Kerry’s view, it is critical that our European and Arab allies support this effort aggressively. If Prime Minister Qureia is committed to this course of action, the United States and its allies should provide technical assistance and training to the Palestinian security forces to strengthen their capacity to root out terrorist groups. The United States must also work with both Israelis and Palestinians to create acceptable and verifiable security benchmarks that the Palestinian Authority can reasonably achieve. While Israel must never give up its right to protect its citizens, the Israeli government must be prepared to respond with steps to alleviate hardships on the Palestinian people. The United States must work with Israel to identify and implement these confidence building measures.

As meaningful steps are taken to fight terrorism, Prime Minister Sharon and Prime Minister Qureia must move forward simultaneously with determination, perseverance, and demonstrated commitment on the road to peace. The United States must support their efforts - keep them focused on the end game of two states; Israel and Palestine, living side by aside in peace and security - and help them take the necessary steps to build enough confidence and trust in each other to get there. Kerry believes that a challenge of this magnitude and importance can only be met by successful and engaged Presidential leadership - leadership that he will provide as President.

O

[ewagner]

2. Some reason for hope

I heard from a friend at the County Committee meeting last night that he has had two opportunities to talk personally with Kerry and once for a full half-hour (over a year ago).

He thinks there is much more to Kerry than we see in the news and the political ads.....he's thoughtful and cautious but has an excellent grasp of the issues.

I think that's some reason to hope.

[revcarol]

5. Bull roar.

What you see is what you get with Kerry. He may have more depth than Bush and understand more nuances, but we're getting same-o, same-o at a SLOWER PACE than Bush. That's all.

Kerry is a GREAT DISAPPOINTMENT.

[hexola]

4. It might be smart...

For the purpose of campaining...there is enough focus on the mideast without bringing Israel into it. Talk about getting bogged down...

Kerry can always do what he wants once elected.

[rockymountaindem]

6. Perhaps there are just some things the parties don't differ on

because most or almost all Americans agree. The Republicans and Democrats can't be 180 degrees apart all the time. Sure, we differ greatly on many issues, but I don't think this is one of them. If a Republican said something like "our party believes that all children should get 3 good meals a day", we couldn't exactly expect the Democratic candidate to take issue with that because nobody disagrees with that statement. I believe that the vast majority of Americans, for one reason or another, want the US to support Israel. Some people here at DU talk about Bush* pandering to the Jewish vote, but has anyone considered that he's only pandering to his base again? You know, the base of Christian fundamentalists who need Israel for their end-times scenario. When Bush* came out in favor of the gay marriage ammendment, nobody said he was pandering to the African-American vote (who are very anti-gay). Just my two cents.

[GregW]

7. Yes - you are the only one.

[cleofus1]

8. remember

he will be completely different when he becomes president...right now he is in campaign mode...i remember i hated clinton when he first ran...i was pulling for jerry brown...i distrusted clinton and his campaign persona...after he became president i realized just how different he was from that previous incarnation...i grew to love him as i saw him in "executive action"!

be hopeful and support him.

[freetobegay]

9. With all the negitivity I have seen on DU about Kerry

Why even bother voting November? Let's just let Bush have the election so he can finish destroying America!

Heres a clue people negitivity begets negitivity! How about being constructive for a change & let Kerry know, not us what your views are.

Weather we like it or not Kerry is going to be the Democrat running in November against Bush Live with it!

That leaves you with one of three choices with two outcomes. Fote for Kerry & win! Vote for Bush & say goodbye to America Or vote for Nader & let Bush win!

[peacetalksforall]

23. And caution begets wisdom

I am extremely cautious about Kerry. Or maybe I just don't know how a pro like him play politics. In the end... Words count Votes count.

He voted for the war.

[freetobegay]

27. & Bush started thwe war

& Bush continues the war! SO whare does that leave us?

[Warren Stuart]

10. Carlos is that you? n/t

[Tinoire]

11. No you're not but Kerry has historically sided with everything

Israel's government wants. War in Iraq? Fence? More money? More Arms? Demonization of the Palestinians? Kerry's been all for that from the start and has a 100% sterling rating in that regard.

Don't expect any difference on this with Kerry; his record is witness to that.

[sangh0]

15. You are being very dishonest

Last night you posted Kerry's ratings and they showed ratings less than 100%. I guess the overnight inflation rate must be incredibly high.

[Tinoire]

33. Here is the info AGAIN. Sounds like the dishonesty is on your part

HERE is what I posted last night. Did you bother reading it or take the time to digest the information in there? You later, in that same thread, admitted you had no idea who Jews for Peace were, so that their ratings meant zilch to you. That is a sad admission from someone weighing in on Kerry & Israel with such authority. The 99.99% rating (less than 100% INDEED!!) you are talking about is from Likudnik supporters of Ariel Sharon. Of course, Kerry supporters will search high and low for the 0.0002% the Likudniks were disatisfied with and use that to pump him up as a progressive on the issue.

It is intellectual dishonesty to pretend that because it's 99.99% as opposed to 100%, it's a decent record. It's a reprehensible record unless you believe in killing innocent people as you go about land theft.


There exists a deep friendship between Israel and the U.S. - between our peoples and countries. The basis of this friendship is common values, a commitment to democratic values, freedom, peace, and common interests, including the drive toward regional stability and preventing terrorism and violence.

— Ariel Sharon

We will speak up for our principles and we will stand up for our friends in the world. And one of our most important friends is the State of Israel.

— George W. Bush

http://www.us-israel.org/about/index.shtml

“Israel is our ally, the only true democracy in a troubled region…America has always been committed to Israel’s independence and survival we will never waiver.”

- John Kerry

Kerry on Ariel Sharon

"I believe Ariel Sharon is willing to make peace, I really believe it." (Haaretz, 1/27/04)

======================================================================


My post, to which you refer:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1417986&mesg_id=1418574

Kerry's Sterling Record


Legislative Record

Bill Vote Vote Status

Foreign Aid

FY2002 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 96-2

FY2001 Foreign Aid Appropriations Conference Report
supported pro-Israel position passed 65-27

FY2000 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 97-2

FY1999 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 90-3

FY1998 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 91-8

FY1997 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 93-7

FY1996 Foreign Aid Appropriations Conference Report supported pro-Israel position passed 90-6

FY1996 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 91-9

FY1995 Foreign Aid Appropriations Conference Report supported pro-Israel position passed 88-12

FY1995 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 84-9

FY1994 Foreign Aid Appropriations Conference Report supported pro-Israel position passed 88-11

FY1994 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 88-10

FY1993 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 87-12

FY1992 Foreign Aid Continuing Resolution supported pro-Israel position passed 84-16

FY1992-1993 Foreign Aid Appropriations Authorization
supported pro-Israel position passed 61-38

FY1992-1993 Foreign Aid Authorization
supported pro-Israel position passed 74-18

Helms Amendment (Cut 10% from FY1992-1993 Foreign Aid Authorization)
supported pro-Israel position defeated 87-12

FY1991 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 76-23

FY1990 Foreign Aid Appropriations Bill supported pro-Israel position passed 89-11

Foreign Aid: Israel Specific

7/93 Letter to President Clinton in support of maintaining current levels of aid to Israel
supported pro-Israel position 78 signers

4/92 Lautenberg resolution expressing support for loan guarantees to Israel
supported pro-Israel position passed 99-1

10/91 Kesten/Inouye loan guarantee amendment
supported pro-Israel position 73 cosponsors

2/90 Levin/Wilson Letter to President opposing Dole proposal to cut foreign aid
supported pro-Israel position 73 signers

Jerusalem

7/99 Mack/Lieberman Letter expressing disappointment with the Administration for invoking the 1995 Jerusalem Embassy Act waiver
supported pro-Israel position 84 signers

5/97 Resolution commemorating the 30th Anniversary of the reunification of Jerusalem
Cosponsored 89 cosponsors

10/96 Legislation mandating move of U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem by May 1999
supported pro-Israel position; Cosponsored passed 93-5/
77 co-sponsors

3/95 D'Amato/Moynihan Letter urging Secretary Christopher to move U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem
supported pro-Israel position 93 signers

3/94 Mack/Moynihan letter to President Clinton opposing U.N. language calling Jerusalem "occupied territory"
supported pro-Israel position 83 signers

6/92 Resolution congratulating Israel on 25th anniversary of Jerusalem's unification
Cosponsored 74 cosponsors

4/90 Resolution declaring Jerusalem the eternal, undivided capital of Israel
Cosponsored 83 cosponsors

Arms Sales

11/91 Metzenbaum/Packwood letter to President Bush opposing Saudi F-15 sale
supported pro-Israel position 57 signers

9/87 Cranston/Packwood letter to President Reagan opposing Maverick missiles to Saudi Arabia
supported pro-Israel position 68 signers

6/87 Resolution disapproving Maverick missile sale to Saudi Arabia
Cosponsored 68 cosponsors

Iran

7/01 ILSA Extension Act of 2001
supported pro-Israel position; Cosponsored passed 96-2

2/00 Iran Nonproliferation Act supported pro-Israel position passed 96-0

5/98 Iran Missile Proliferation Sanctions Act supported pro-Israel position; Cosponsored passed 90-4/84 cosponsors

3/98 Murray/Campell letter to VP Gore calling for an end to Russian missile cooperation
supported pro-Israel position 47 signers

6/96 Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996 Did not consponsor 45 cosponsors

Miscellaneous

4/30/03 Boxer/McConnell urging President Bush to adhere to his June 24th principles in implementation of the Road Map
supported pro-Israel position 88 signers

5/02 S. Res. 247 expressing solidarity with Israel
supported pro-Israel position; Cosponsored passed 94-2

3/02 Feinstein/McConnell letter urging Vice President Cheney not to meet with Chairman Arafat until he has taken necessary steps to end violence
supported pro-Israel position 52 signers

11/01 Bond/Schumer letter urging President not to meet with Arafat until violence ends
supported pro-Israel position 89 signers

4/01 Biden/Brownback letter

Letter to President urging reassessment of US relationship with Palestinians
supported pro-Israel position 87 signers

10/00 Peace through Negotiations Act
Did not cosponsor 60 cosponsors

10/00 Lott/Daschle Letter to President in Support of Israel
supported pro-Israel position 96 signers

7/00 Middle East Peace Process Support Act
Did not cosponsor 36 cosponsors

3/99 Resolution expressing congressional opposition to the unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state
supported pro-Israel position, Cosponsored passed 98-1/94 cosponsors

4/98 Resolution commemorating 50th anniversary of Israel's independence
Cosponsored 100 cosponsors

3/98 Mack/Lieberman letter urging administration not to pressure Israel
supported pro-Israel position 82 signers

11/93 Lautenberg/Grassley letter to Arab League calling for an end to boycott of Israel
supported pro-Israel position 77 signers

5/93 Kennedy/Grassley letter to President Clinton urging President to press Syria to let Syrian Jews leave
supported pro-Israel position 73 signers

2/93 Grassley/Lautenberg letter urging Secretary of State Christopher to include Hamas in terrorism report
did not sign 55 signers

1/93 Mack/Moynihan letter urging U.S. veto of U.N. condemnation of Israel over Hamas expulsions
supported pro-Israel position 72 signers

11/91 Grassley/Lautenberg letter urging Secretary of State Baker to keep Syria on State Department terrorism list
supported pro-Israel position 55 signers

3/91 Mack/Robb Resolution urging Arab states to recognize Israel
Cosponsored 83 cosponsors

1/91 Letter to Israeli Ambassador Shoval expressing solidarity with Israel
supported pro-Israel position 79 signers

10/90 Lautenberg/Grassley letter opposing linking withdrawal from Kuwait to West Bank/Gaza
supported pro-Israel position 53 signers

7/90 Iraqi sanctions amendment prior to invasion of Kuwait
supported pro-Israel position passed 83-12

6/90 Letter and Resolution urging suspension of US-PLO dialogue
supported pro-Israel position 56 signers/68


Interest Group Ratings

2003 — On the votes that the Jews for Peace in Palestine and Israel (JPPI) considered to be the most important in 2003, a point system was established for both the Senate and the House. In the Senate, total possible points range from a high of +3 and a low of -4. In the House, points range from +9 to -7. The Jews for Peace in Palestine and Israel (JPPI) assigned Senator Kerry a score of -1.

2001-2002 — On the votes that the Jews for Peace in Palestine and Israel (JPPI) considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, a point system was established for both the Senate and the House. In the Senate, total possible points range from a high of +1 and a low of -5. In the House, points range from +6 to -6. The Jews for Peace in Palestine and Israel (JPPI) assigned Senator Kerry a score of -3.

<snip>

2003 — On the votes that the U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation considered to be the most important in 2003, a point system was established for both the Senate and the House. In the Senate, total possible points range from a high of +3 and a low of -4. In the House, points range from +9 to -7. The U.S. Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation assigned Senator Kerry a score of -1.

<snip>

2001-2002 — On the votes , introduction of legislation, sponsorship or co-sponsorship of legislation and public speaking on legislation, for legistation, that the American Muslims for Jerusalem considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, Senator Kerry, rated -3.

<snip>

2001 — On the votes that the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs (WRMEA) considered to be the most important in 2001, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

1998-2002 — On the votes that the Center for Security Policy considered to be the most important in 1998-2002, Senator Kerry voted their preferred position 25 percent of the time.

The Center for Security Policy is a neo-conservative organization which describes itself as an organization that has "since its founding in 1988, operated as a non-profit, non-partisan organization committed to the time-tested philosophy of promoting international peace through American strength. It accomplishes this goal by stimulating and informing national and international policy debates, in particular, those involving regional, defense, economic, financial and technology developments that bear upon the security of the United States." Many of the votes in the interest group rating do not exclusively relate to Israel. The Center for Security Policy is an organization which opposes terror, supports President Bush's "War on Terror," supports the war in Iraq, examines the terror connections between the so-called "peace" movement and militant Islamist organizations. The Center for Security Policy opposes a Palestinian state. They support Israel's right to self-defense and have recently run several pro-Israel advertisements on cable news networks. This organization is pro-Israel.

Sources: Thomas, public records and Project Vote Smart

http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US-Israel/kerryrecord.html

[sangha]

41. Where do you imagine you saw that?

The 99.99% rating (less than 100% INDEED!!) you are talking about...

I never said anything about a99.99% rating. I was referring to ratings like:

2003 — On the votes that the Jews for Peace in Palestine and Israel (JPPI) considered to be the most important in 2003, a point system was established for both the Senate and the House. In the Senate, total possible points range from a high of +3 and a low of -4. In the House, points range from +9 to -7. The Jews for Peace in Palestine and Israel (JPPI) assigned Senator Kerry a score of -1.

A minus one sounds like it's right in the middle zone, and not at one extreme end, as you misportrayed it.

It is intellectual dishonesty to pretend that because it's 99.99% as opposed to 100%, it's a decent record. It's a reprehensible record unless you believe in killing innocent people as you go about land theft

And it's intellectually dishonest to falsely assert that I referred to any 99.99% rating.

[whosinpower]

16. But WHY?

What does Israel offer the US in retrospect? Or perhaps the question could be what does the US OWE Israel to garner such unconditional support???

[sangh0]

20. What Israel offers

1) Military cooperation in the area
2) A stable nation from which we can base resources
3) Intelligence on players in the area
4) Israel's existence destabilizes the area, which provides the US with a justification for military intervention.
5) Israel's existence threatens the security of other nations in the area, making them more amenable to allowing the US to base in their nation

[JCMach1]

32. The Israeli occupation is appartheid at the point of a gun

That's what supporting Israel has bought us.

[sangha]

37. Redundant - Apartheid is never voluntary

And I don't consider it outlandish to call it apartheid. Exaerrated maybe, but not over the top

[Butterflies]

13. I'm disappointed with Kerry-bashing on DU

look at the bigger picture and stop picking on our guy. Come on people!

[whosinpower]

19. I'm not bashing him

But do not blindly support him just because he isn't Bush. I like Kerry alot actually, but this endorsement that Bush gave to Sharon's plan....uh it seems for all intents and purposes, to incite more violence in the entire region.

[Butterflies]

21. Well, you could've chosen a better title for the thread

[Change has come]

14. I for one am dumbfounded...here is a link

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1081998810231&p=1006688055060

[Freddie Stubbs]

24. The Democratic Party's platform is pretty clear who we support

Our special relationship with Israel is based on the unshakable foundation of shared values and a mutual commitment to democracy, and we will ensure that under all circumstances, Israel retains the qualitative military edge for its national security.

http://www.democrats.org/about/2000platform.html#peace

[seabeyond]

17. let me ask

if taken away from attack to a place that is best decision policy. we have missed this for three years. bush doesnt make good decisions, we understand and see.

personally, i have to get the information bush and sharon came up with. compare it to what clinton put out 5, 6, 7 years ago.

i dont trust bush and sharon. but i dont have information

what if, bush went to kerry's position. do you not want kerry to back it, just because it is words out of bush's mouth

two things there, maybe three

it is what bush did with clinton. anything clinton had they trashed and didnt look at.

second, they continued to attack, blame to this day, and how petty and who i dont want to be because it is not honest nor productive.

there is a third somewhere, certainly would make kerry the flip flop wuss asshole,. if bush did something right cuase cornered and he knows it

bush still loses, he walked into office and said not doing a thing with isreal and palestine. and created much mess the first two years because of that policy.

just some thoughts

doing battle with brain not ego, like rush and hannity

now understand, above what i suggest til i have the information, i dont know. i have been working on other stuff with election and politics.

[sangh0]

18. What would you have wanted Kerry to do/say?

And please explain how that would have helped the situation.

If this is only about how *YOU* feel, then I really don't give a damn. For some odd reason, I think that I/P issues are primarily about Israelis and Palestinians (and Arabs in general) and NOT about how *YOU* feel.

So how about you invest a little thought in the plight of the people who live in the region? You can demonstrate that by explaining how Kerry could have said and/or done something to help the people in the region, and not just to make you feel better.

[whosinpower]

25. He should of said nothing

He should not of made any comment. He should of reserved his judgement.

I have thought about the plight of the people in the region. I have thought about the innocent killed by various terror attacks - and the retribution paid ten fold back to innocent palistinians. I watched in horror a small clip of video that somehow escaped Israeli enforcers of a palistinian father and his son, crouched against a wall, caught in the wrong place at the wrong time, with NO WEAPON. I watched in horror, as the Israeli soldier carefully took aim and SHOT THE BOY AS HE WAS TRYING TO HIDE BEHIND HIS FATHER. I watched his father cry out and hold his son as the soldier shot the boy, not one, but twice. A small boy - maybe seven or eight years old.

You see, the Israeli's do not own the majority share of pain and grief....there is plenty to go round.

Kerry should not of commented on Sharon's plan. A fair and impartial broker of peace will also take into consideration the plight of the palistinians, not just the pain of the Israeli's.

[sangha]

38. What good with his silence do?

I understand how you feel, but IMO our actions should be guided by what helps people and what hurts people. How would Kerry's silence have helped the Palestinians you wrote about?

[revcarol]

26. The U. S. policy MUST, of course, protect the security of Israel.

But there are many things that the U. S. can do to promote the Palestinian state and make it viable, and cut down the terrorist inspired by injustice against the Palestinians.

The U. S. can stop blocking investigations into alleged Israeli war crimes, in the U. N.

The U. S. can get "the fence" taken down.

The U. S. can enforce the '67 agreement which said that ALL THE WEST BANK must go back to the Palestinian State, not Israel taking most of it.

The U. S. can force Saudi Arabia to get on board for a 2-state solution.

The U. S. can give economic aid to palestinians so that they can have small businesses and aren't so dependent on Israel for employment.

The U. S. can cut off all military aid.Israel can pay for its own planes and bulldozers to smash houses, if it wants them.

Hey, you asked.

The U. S. can make all Israel/Palestine neighbors come to the table to settle regional issues like the water currently being hogged by Israel.

[seabeyond]

30. this is good stuff

i like this. thank you for sharing.

i also think most all on this board agrees the death of the palestine children, well hell screw that shit the men and women, the old.........the ones filled with such hate and pain, they are willing to blow themselves up, with a lot of other people on the other side

is there a soul on this board that doesnt realize this is the issue

appreciate. shift focus to solutions

[sangha]

40. But there's one MAJOR big problem with that list

As good as it is, Kerry can't do any of them as a Senator, and I didn't ask "What could Kerry do if he is elected President?"

[Kitsune]

28. I've been disappointed with him for a long time. *nt*

[JCMach1]

29. Is Kerry supporting the Sharon plan?

If so, I will seriously begin rethinking my support...

I see no alternative to Bush... but that might very well be a deal breaker for me.

[hexola]

31. More and more, Mr. Kerry defines himself as the same as Bush...oh really?

Are you disappointed with his record? or just this particular affirmation? It would seem this would be consistient...did you just learn of his record...?

[raysr]

35. Kerry

When you lose Bush think of all the other assholes that go with him. Even if you think that Kerry and Bush are aligned on some issues think of that. Out with all the garbage!

[ikojo]

36. Kerry is also trying to re-define himself as a

centrist....Once again instead of standing for DEMOCRATIC values, the Dem candidate is running as Bush lite.

Prepare for four more years of the real thing.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0416-02.htm


From the New York Times via commondreams.org...

MOVING RIGHT: KERRY SAYS HE'S NO 'REDISTRIBUTION DEMOCRAT'...

Published on Friday, April 16, 2004 by the New York Times
Kerry Plans Effort to Show He Is a Centrist
by Jodi Wilgoren

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J., April 15 — Declaring that he is "not a redistribution Democrat," Senator John Kerry told a group of wealthy and well-connected supporters on Thursday that he would soon start an aggressive campaign to define himself as a centrist, in hopes of peeling moderate Republicans from President Bush.

[Avalux]

39. NOT disappointed -

Kerry is playing it smart right now; not making waves and letting shrub dig his own grave. Sorry if some don't like it, but the key to winning this game is the middle. He knows what he's doing. Lots of time between now and November.

[corporatewhore]

42. iam not suprised one of my dearest friend and mentor is a palestinian

from jerusalem who has no right to return to her home her family is put through hell.She is one of the reasons for inspiring me to become an active activists.Iwas not disapointed because i knew the man who supported bushs screw the palestinians map and the apartheid wall would do this

[freeforall]

43. Like attracts like?

"Someon help me to understand why the US consistantly and faithfully turns a blind eye to Israel indiscretions and kowtows to whatever Israel seeks.'

"Birds of a feather..."

"It takes one to know one..."

You get the drift.