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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:20 PM
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Radiation in Iraq equals 250,000 Nagasaki bombs
Edited on Fri Apr-16-04 12:16 AM by ConcernedCanuk
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This story is about American weapons built with uranium components for the business end of things. Just about all American bullets, 120 mm tank shells, missiles, dumb bombs, smart bombs,500 - and 2,000-pound bombs, cruise missiles and anything else engineered to help our side in the war of us against them has uranium in it. Lots of uranium.

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No sir-ee, putting Four Million Pounds of radioactive uranium dust (RUD) on the ground in Iraq was a definitely "on-purpose" kind of thing. It was not "just an accident." We, the citizens of the United States, through our kids in the Army, did this on purpose.

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The uranium cannot be removed, there is no treatment, there is no cure. The uranium will long outlast the veterans' and the Iraqis' bodies though; for, you see, it lasts virtually forever.

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Not to worry, the President has plenty of raw material for radioactive uranium munitions left. There are more than 77,000tons stored at the 103 nuclear waste plants and the several nuclear weapons labs in the U.S. Each one makes another 250 pounds of radioactive material a day for radioactive bullets, bombs and missiles. Not to put too fine a point on it, but that is enough for 40.5 more gloriously successful campaigns like the 2003 nuclear war in Iraq.

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I found this a little scary, and "bullets"?
- so I did some checking
- yup even bullets.
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"Depleted Uranium is a radioactive metal which the United States has begun using to coat bullets to help them penetrate tanks and other targets more easily. The radioactivity is dispersed, contaminating land and water and causing birth defects. Bullets coated in depleted Uranium were used in the Gulf War, and it is believed that a sickness known as Gulf War syndrome in American soldiers of the war was caused by exposure to the radioactive metal. Since the Gulf War, depleted Uranium has been used in Kosovo and Afghanistan.

Other Related Facts


During the Gulf War between 1990 and 1991 the United States military incurred: 467 individuals wounded in action, 148 killed in battle, and 145 killed in other than battle (i.e. accidents). Therefore, the total number of US Gulf War casualties was 760 at the time of redeployment.

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. . . as of May 2002: 696,778 individuals had served during the Gulf War with 572,833 individuals now eligible for Department of Veterans Affairs benefits

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Since the cessation of Gulf War hostilities in 1991, an additinoal 8013 veterans have died from service connected injuries and exposures incurred during operation Desert Shield and Operation Desert Storm.
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That's over 10 times the number lost in combat.

And that's "small potatoes" compared to the number of Iraqis that will die slow miserable deaths, not to mention disfigured newborns.

So the Military is "nuking" Iraq, one bullet at a time.

How many marines, soldiers even realize this?

We know the answer.

Very, very few.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:27 PM
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1. Dude - reduce the font
Unreadable
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:29 PM
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2.  ? ? ? Font looks normal on mine, except the bolding and heading.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:38 PM
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10. the font
runs way off both sides of the screen for me.... can't really read it either.
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:30 PM
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3. that sounds like a buncha bs
Our own troops would have their skin falling off. the reporters.. etc.

Aside from being unreadable... I highly doubt it...not matter what "iraq.net" says.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:32 PM
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4. I thought so too, that's why I checked - check the other links
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Everything below "MORE" is NOT from Iraq.net - and still

It looks normal on my computer,

hmmmmm
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:34 PM
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7. It's just stretching the page out.
It would be a good idea to reduce the fonts.

On the topic, I couldn't be more disgusted with my country as I am now. This is just sick what our leaders are doing.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:33 PM
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5. It's dust
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 11:33 PM by camero
Breathing it in wouldn't make your skin fall off but would cause birth defects and higher cancer rates in short order. And this info is getting surpressed.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:35 PM
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Where's your documentation to disprove what's being said?
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:38 PM
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9. LOL.. prove a negative...
prove this case .. = radiation of 300,000 A bombs going off in Iraq.. and not one reporter saying anything...

pulllleeeeezz
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:41 PM
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14. Check the other links, I had my doubts also, so that's why 2 more links.
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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:38 PM
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11. Yes, your own troops
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:40 PM
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13. i'm not saying our troops arent getting hurt in iraq..
I'm saying inventing a number like 250,000 A bombs is really stretching it.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:34 PM
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6. While I think DU poisoning is a valid concern...
this kind of over the top phony bullshit is detrimental to the cause.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:35 PM
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8. yeah really
It is a problem but this kind of stuff is greatly exaggerated.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:40 PM
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12. There's two more links in there - same evidence of DU
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That's why I did the extra research.

There's alot more links from NGO's that say basically the same thing.

And the Font problem seemed to be EI - I'm using Mozilla, looked fine,

but when I checked it in IE,

it WAS a mess!

So I "fixed" it. ( I think?)

Hmmm - makes me wonder how many other of my posts looked like that?

I use the <h1> <h2> a fair bit ..
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:50 PM
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15. DU poisoning?
Edited on Fri Apr-16-04 12:01 AM by GTRMAN
I didn't know it was a danger. I mean,I have made over 700 posts so far and I feel fine. :bounce:

On edit: Seriously,I have always wondered about the wisdom of using that shit in "conventional" weapons. Is this going to be the new Agent Orange? Only time will tell.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 12:00 AM
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17. Aha - you're in the infamous "700" club!
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Jus 4 U -

Oh, and more on Depleted Uranium:

"In the first partial Pentagon disclosure of the amount of DU used in Iraq, a US Central Command spokesman told the Monitor that A-10 Warthog aircraft - the same planes that shot at the Iraqi planning ministry - fired 300,000 bullets. The normal combat mix for these 30-mm rounds is five DU bullets to 1 - a mix that would have left about 75 tons of DU in Iraq.

The Monitor saw only one site where US troops had put up handwritten warnings in Arabic for Iraqis to stay away. There, a 3-foot-long DU dart from a 120 mm tank shell, was found producing radiation at more than 1,300 times background levels.

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jcldragon Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:59 PM
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16. Gulf War Vet
Since she served there, she has had many cancers removed. This winter it was a cyst in her sinus. Now something else has developed. She says she was exposed to some hydrazine at one point, but now it appears to be something else, & she's going to the VA hospital. I'll call her tomorrow.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 12:21 AM
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18. Here's the link to many more links on Depleted Uranium and bullets
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It's the result of my Google search

RESULTS OF GOOGLE SEARCH

Hope this helps some.

It IS easier to believe things when one does their own research.

I myself was doubtful, that's why there are two additional links in the original post.

I looked at many other sites before I even considered posting the article.

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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 06:28 AM
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21. google vs. peer-reviewed science
anybody can post anything on google - isn't freedom of speech great? - but if one is seeking reliable information a superior source of information is the primary scientific literature that has been peer-reviewed - a handy (and free) searchable sourch is the national institute's of health PUBMED site:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=Pager&DB=PubMed
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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 06:21 AM
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19. natural radiation inside the human body equals 58,000 nagasaki bombs
when multiplied over the 6 billion or so people on earth - and that's just considering the naturally occurring potassium-40 isotope!!

my oh my, how can any of us be alive?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 06:22 AM
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20. Comparing the 'radiation' of an atomic bomb
to that from DU is meaningless.

A bomb produces an intense flash of gamma (electromagnetic) and neutron radiation. DU produces, very slowly (that's why it has a long half life) alpha particle radiation. Alpha particles are very ionising (which means they have a large effect on both live cells and radiation counters), but have very small penetration (eg a piece of paper, or the dead outer layer of your skin, can stop them).

There may be problems due to ingestion of DU dust from unwashed hands. But comparing it to the effects of nuclear bombs is pointless - it should be compared to the effect of ingesting normal soil.
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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 06:30 AM
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22. exactly - eating soil is a good comparison
Edited on Fri Apr-16-04 06:32 AM by treepig
considering that the typical american, if they have an approximately 1/2 acre lot, has approximately 1 nagasaki bomb's worth of "depleted uranium" (i.e., U-238) in the upper foot of soil on their property (based on the reasoning presented in the original post).

how is anyone surviving?

p.s. of course naturally-occurring radon (a decay product of U-238) that seeps into your basement is much more dangerous than the du itself



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