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Design8edGrouch (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:37 AM Original message |
A question about Viet Nam |
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Lindsay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yup, I remember. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. No, and I was against the war in 1962 |
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Design8edGrouch (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. While you may be right about it being one of many reasons to |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
3. No...but I heard about oil off-shore (Spratley or Pratley Is.?) |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. It must not have been all that important |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. No, but... |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
6. google... vietnam, rubber, tungsten and tin |
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kcwayne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. I don't remember hearing about tin, it was our old friend - Oil |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Shell is Dutch |
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kcwayne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I know it is Dutch |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
8. It's spelled out in "A People's History of the United States" |
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Design8edGrouch (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Thank you all |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. read "Resource Wars" by Michael T. Klare all wars have always been about |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Thats a horribly incomplete analysis. |
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markses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Correct - Vietnam was not about resources |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
34. True |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Then how do you refute the assertion I provided above... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. There were many reasons for veitnam involvement stated by many people |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. the main one being resources like ALL colonial wars |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Why are you desperately trying to oversimplify the conflict. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. just stating some of the main objectives... the GOLDEN RULE |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. WWII is also a really bad example. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. doesn't match up well with the CARTOON WORLD VIEW |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I find your atttitude interesting. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. i never said all |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. WRT the Pacific theater, WWII is an EXCELLENT example |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Facts right, conclusion not. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Resources are a factor intertwined with all others |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Exactly, we agree totally |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. also see... What Uncle Sam Really Wants |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. bpilgrim>>>>>smooches |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. i think i'm gonna like it here ;-) |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
10. I have always thought the war was about access to the oil off shore |
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Another Bill C. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. The propaganda films |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
14. At one time tin was a factor, oil really never was. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. 'domino theory and saving face' is the BS propaganda they served up |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Wrong wrong wrong. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. sure |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. They werent seeking treasure. |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. your right... SECURING TREASURE |
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kcwayne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. But in the late 60's and early 70's there was fear about oil resources |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. But the vietnam war far predates the 60's and 70's |
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kcwayne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Then you didn't read my post which points out the even Hoover knew about |
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Mrs. Venation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-15-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
35. Actually, It Was President Eisenhower |
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