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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:27 AM
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Bush losing the on-line poll wars on performance last night
Vote early, vote often.

Over 50% on the MSNBC poll rate him as Poor (26%) or a Disaster (23%) from 12750 responses at 8:30 CDT! He's losing the CNN poll so. Don't let the Freepers take 'em over.

MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4738674/

CNN

http://www.cnn.com
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:30 AM
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1. They say Clinton was the best thing to energize the right! Well...
Bush has been the best thing to energize the left!
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:32 AM
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2. Kick
:kick:
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:35 AM
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3. Done: 14651 Responses now...
How would you grade President Bush's performance in the prime-time news conference.

* 14651 responses

Excellent 22%

Very good 16%

Average 13%

Poor 26%

Disaster 24%
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:37 AM
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4. MSNBC Poll:
How would you grade President Bush's performance in the prime-time news conference. * 15050 responses

Excellent 22%

Very good 16%

Average 13%

Poor 26%

Disaster 24%
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stryker18 Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:39 AM
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6. Done
But don't forget the other poll...although we seem to be doing very well.

If the election were held today, who would you vote for?
George W. Bush 36%
John Kerry 61%
Ralph Nader 3%
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 02:49 PM
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14. Hi stryker18!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:41 AM
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9. the other poll on this page...
has Kerry winning 61% of the vote to Bush 36%...hmmm
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:39 AM
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5. What kind of stupid question is that?
CNN:

"Did President Bush give a convincing performance at Tuesday's news conference?"

Well, yeah, he convinced me he's an idiot having a nervous breakdown.
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agtcovert Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:51 AM
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11. The verbage there is troubling to me...
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 08:52 AM by agtcovert
Since when is giving a speech (or ostensibly answering questions) a "performance"? Performing to me implies being something you're not, in essence deceiving others into seeing you as something else.

But that's me...
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:40 AM
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7. CNN poll
Did President Bush give a convincing performance at Tuesday's news conference?
NO 44%
Yes 34%
didn't watch 22%

73424 votes

dp
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:41 AM
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8. Poll: "Do you wish Al Gore was President right now?"
I notice that they never ask the real questions like that
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:41 AM
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10. These online polls are so important.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 01:49 PM
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13. Don't laugh. They read them on-air
and they clearly impact public perception. If most people think he did a crappy job, then he must of done a crapy job. And don't forget the 1/3 of people who actually bother to read MSNBC online who didn't bother to watch!

Never miss an opportunity to sway public opinion.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:36 AM
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12. A trainwreck is a trainwreck is a trainwreck
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 09:37 AM by scottxyz
After a speech like that it doesn't even matter if the usual 49% of the country or whatever got taken in by the notion that he was "forceful" or whatever buzzword was given to the presstitutes for spinning purposes.

Idiots always latch on to whichever buzzword the presstitutes use - whether it's "waffler" on Kerry or "forceful" on Bush. (It makes them think they're smart that they are able to parrot an applicable adjective after an event, as if they were actually capable of performing their own analysis of something - which they no longer are, after regurgitating so much bullshit over the years.)

At a certain point whether or not you snowed the usual idiots doesn't even matter any more. The old rigged horserace is bearable only on lesser points. In cases of dire danger - where asking normal questions really does become a threat to national security - there is a different sort of closing ranks. We don't even need to say out loud what we think - we're EMBARASSED or SCARED to say out loud what we think - but there's no need to, it's so obvious. A trainwreck is a trainwreck; a dry drunk on meds is a dry drunk on meds; a confused, spoiled, smug fratboy in over his head for the first time is a confused, spoiled, smug fratboy in over his head for the first time.

Note how CNBC had to rig its poll to include 5 options this time, instead of the usual "good", "bad", "indifferent". The worst option this time was "disaster".

They did that for 2 reasons (1) because the speech WAS a disaster, and they needed that category, and (2) to split the "bad" vote into smaller pieces so it wouldn't look so bad. (See "approval voting" at accuratedemocracy.com for how this works.)

Believe it or not, this confused, incoherent mess WAS Bush's mea culpa. We've all been shocked and disappointed by the inarticulately of infomercial bimbos and reality-show wannabes, unreprentent 90s corporate execs, fallen politicians stuck in deniability, a whole parade of not-quite-admissions and adamant apologies from people who don't know how to act because they've been living in a media bubble for too long.

This WAS Bush's swansong - and in NewSpeak you never really do say goodbye, you just sort of mumble your way into irrelevance and never stop talking.

Nobody's listening to him anymore. Except most isolated, most desperate people in the country.
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