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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:24 PM
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Ok, the letter found at Bill Frist's office, was it Ricin or was it
a false positive?, CNN reporting a man in possesion of ricin, CNN describing the toxin as the same one discovered in a letter in Bill Frist's office, I thought the letter turned out NOT to have ricin.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:26 PM
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1. False Positive - not ricin.
I wonder if castor oil would test positive for ricin?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:31 PM
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2. Me too......is this a news organization or a disinformation service
of the Dept. of Defense? If it had been Ricin, they would have trumpeted this up as a huge terrorist attack on our beloved Republican Party.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:46 PM
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4. Department of Defense?
Hasn't that been renamed "Ministry of Love" yet?
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:57 PM
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6. Gee, funny you should ask......
.......Read this thread. :evilgrin:

D5E:destruction, degradation, denial, disruption, deceit, and exploitation

CONCEPT PAPER



Working Group on Preventive and Preemptive Military Intervention


William W. Keller and Gordon R. Mitchell1
Project Coordinators


<Snip>

U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, called for an FBI investigation into the forgery of documents cited by President Bush and Secretary Powell as proof of Iraq’s nuclear transactions with Niger. As Rockefeller explained in a letter to FBI Director Robert Mueller: “There is a possibility that the fabrication of these documents may be part of a larger deception campaign aimed at manipulating public opinion and foreign policy regarding Iraq.”26

The timeliness of Rockefeller’s proposed inquiry was underscored by the appearance of official documents that lay out official American deception plans: "In a document last autumn, the joint chiefs of staff stressed the need for strategic deception and influence operations as tools of war. The army, navy and air force have been directed to devise plans for information warfare."27

According to defense analyst William Arkin, the Bush strategy lays out goals for information warfare that pursue D5E: "destruction, degradation, denial, disruption, deceit, and exploitation." Arkin notes that the wide array of sites and ractices of information control brought into the range of this policy "blurs or even erases the boundaries between factual information and news, on the one hand, and public relations, propaganda and psychological warfare on the other."28

This fusion of military deception programs with media propaganda efforts enabled the Office of Strategic Influence to commission officers from the U.S. Army's Psychological Operations Command to work as interns in the news division of CNN.29

Eventually, the Bush Administration was burned by the political heat generated when the Office of Strategic Influence was leaked to the media. The ensuing firestorm of controversy prompted Secretary Rumsfeld to close the propaganda unit. Yet less than a year later, Rumsfeld stipulated that his action had only been symbolic, and that information warfare missions were still underway at other Pentagon offices: And then there was the Office of Strategic Influence. You may recall that.
And “oh my goodness gracious isn't that terrible, Henny Penny the sky is going to fall.” I went down that next day and said fine, if you want to savage this thing, fine, I'll give you the corpse. There's the name. You can have the name, but I'm gonna keep doing every single thing that needs to be done and I have.30

The political implications of blurring military strategic deception and public sphere propaganda are worth exploring, given Arkin's concerns about military deception that "while the policy ostensibly targets foreign enemies, its most likely victim will be the American electorate."31

<More>

Perhaps someone on Air America would like to open up a discussion of this topic. :)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 01:31 PM
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7. Actual Pat, I think it was this post that opened my eyes to the
DD/CNN unholy alliance Thanks!
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:03 PM
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8. You are more than welcome! The more I dig into the 'known knowns'.....
.....about this administrations use of 'psyops' against us in order to further their agenda, the more sane I feel. :evilgrin:

Once you understand their methods and motives, the more sense one can make of all the nonsense put out by the media. :)

The scary part is seeing how effective it's been on such a large portion of our society. :(

I find myself singing Frank Zappa's "It can't happen here" quite a bit lately just to get myself to smile.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:32 PM
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3. They were detecting the Castor used in manufacturing paper.
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waywest Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 12:47 PM
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5. Catnip
Yup, catnip
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-04 02:09 PM
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9. The Ricin was "inspired" by a need to Scrub the Judiciary Records
Remember the investigation about Busheviks STEALING Democratic Senate Judiciary Committee Documents?

Remember how the stories disappeared right after the Phony Ricin Scare?

Evidence scrubbed. Just like a Nazi, Commie, or Bushevik would do.

Evidence gone while the building was empty. No more Stolen Memo evidence.

Of course, if I hear about the Stolen Memo investigation moving forward (NOT a phony Ashcroft Anthtrax Assassin story just to show that they aren't purposefully tanking the investigation, which they are), then I will reconsider.

WWFMD?

What Would Ferdinand Marcos Do?
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