My God! Now they want Kerry excommunicated!

[Bake]

This clown William Donohue on Scarborough sounds like a medieval Inquisitor! He wants Kerry excommunicated over his stand on abortion and over whether or not he got an annulment of his first marriage from the Catholic Church!!!! Sounds like he wants Kerry burned at the stake! They don't just want Kerry to lose the election, they want him to burn in hell!!!!!

The question put to McCarthy is more relevant than ever: "At long last, sir, have you no shame?"

Bake

[mrdmk]

1. Just trying to upset the fundies

Do not take the bait.

[KittyWampus]

17. Don't Fundies Hate Catholics?

hard to keep track of all the hate.

[dawn]

45. Yeah...I think they call the Catholic Chuch the whore of Babylon.

But hey, if it plays into their hands politically, they luuuurrve the Catholics.

[barbaraann]

2. Fox News Sunday and Hannity were both harping on

whether or not Kerry is a good Catholic.

They will never bring up that George Bush's church (Methodist) opposed the invasion of Iraq.

[polmaven]

12. AND that he refused

even to MEET with the Bishops of the church to even DISCUSS the matter. He knows what God wants better than they, you see.

[daveskilt]

3. and how came you by such knowledge of carrots?

"for carrots are the devils fruit from his own devilish tree!"

"carrots dont grow on trees they grow under.."

"and how came you by such knowledge of carrots? - a witch! burn him"

see what happens when you tell the truth?


(10 bonus points fro anyone who gets the reference)

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

10. Monty Python and the Holy Grail? (nt)

[daveskilt]

16. nope...although there is a good witch burning bit that mentions carrots

in holy grail too. her nose is a carrot.

but this was not python - it is british though

[alvis]

19. Black Adder I

The episode where Black Adder was on trial for witch craft. One of my favorite episodes.

[GreenPartyVoter]

21. That was a good one, but so was the one

from Black Adder II that made fun of Puritans.

"We don't sit on chairs at home. At home, Nathaniel sits on a spike."

[daveskilt]

29. Wicked Child!! *slap* * slap*

thats my mums favorite episode - that or the other miriam margolyes episode where she is the infanta of spain - relaly just for the one line from the translator - again please!

[GreenPartyVoter]

34. I just love that show. Never saw an episode I didn't like

except maybe the Christmas special. I mean I liked it, but didn't love it as much as the regular series.

For me they go 2, 4, 3, 1 favorites-wise, generally speaking because I like the snarky Edmund better than the simpering one. I cried at the end of each series, especially the 4th one. Sad, I know. *l*

[daveskilt]

37. not sad- the end of the 4th was sad enough to cry legitimately

although the end of two was funny with hugh laurie as mad prince ludwig w-reaking his reweng-e. that order is about right. but episode wise...1. money (2) 2. beer (2) 3. the infanta (1) for me.
4 has some of the best lines but the characters in 2 and 3 are great. best show ever although the new statesman, red dwarf(first 5 seasons anyway) and bottom are up there for shows that made me laugh so hard i hurt.

[daveskilt]

30. Wicked Child!! *slap* * slap*

thats my mums favorite episode - that or the other miriam margolyes episode where she is the infanta of spain - relaly just for the one line from the translator - again please!

[daveskilt]

31. I didnt think anyone would get that one!

and welcome to DU!

:toast:

[alvis]

43. Black Adder is such a classic.

This exchange always makes me laugh:

Witchsmeller: And what did you mean by it?

Edmund: Well, I meant, would the cat like some milk.

Witchsmeller: Milk? What did you mean by `milk'?

Edmund: I meant *milk*! Bloody *milk*!!!

Witchsmeller: BLOODY MILK!!! It was a mixture of milk and blood!

Edmund: No, no, just milk!

Witchsmeller: Ah, blood was to come later!


Thank you for the warm welcome. Cheers! :toast:

[jobycom]

4. Well, he's probably been thrown out of better clubs than that. nt.

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. Sounds like it's an election year.

They're even spinning that Kerry is pro-outsourcing and that he owns sweatshops. And it's working. My southern Democratic friend says she doesn't like either Kerry nor Bush and that Nadar is looking better and better. She's getting her head turned by a relative from oop North.

[Cassandra]

6. I utterly despise Donahue

He is such a hypocrite. He screams "Catholic bashing" when Catholics are producing artwork that he doesn't like, but when Bush went and spoke at Bob Jones University, he couldn't wait to find excuses for him. A horrible, whining pig!

[bloom]

7. They've probably never talked with any liberal Catholics

They need some liberal nuns to call them up.

I worked with a peace group in Louisville for awhile.

Mostly Catholics - and the most liberal people in town.

[Bake]

11. Good ol' Louisville!

A progressive oasis with a great newspaper (the Courier-Journal)! And my home for almost 20 years!

Bake

[GreenPartyVoter]

24. There's even Liberal catholic churches

though I think they are not in communication with the Vatican.

[Cleita]

8. Novakula started this on Crossfire a week ago saying

he should be refused communion on Easter. I did a post on it here then. It seems to have gotten legs though and now it's about excommunication. These neo-cons seem to not have reached the depths of lowness they will sink to.

[SharonAnn]

23. Bob Novak is really tight with Fr. McCloskey, Opus Dei priest

who converted him (Novak) to Catholicism. Fr. McCloskey is an ultra right-winger.

Fr. McCloskey thinks that Catholics who object to anything the Church teaches or the Pope says should leave the Church. He says there's a name for them, "Protestants". He figures it would be about 80% of the U. S. Catholics and that the Church would be better off without them.

Don't pay any attention to Novakula. He's been taken to the "dark side" of Catholicism.

[diamond14]

38. does Father McCloskey know that novak treasonously outed a CIA

agent...and probably KILLED some of her contacts by doing so????


"let him who is without sin cast the first stone" said Jesus, when a bunch of THUGS wanted to stone Mary Magdellan to DEATH, for prostitution....and the THUGS all walked away....then, Jesus forgave Mary for her sins...

---------------

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
Blessed are they who mourn, for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the land.
Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they they will be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall be shown mercy.
Blessed are the clean of heart, for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.
Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.

[HawkerHurricane]

40. How does Fr. McCloskey feel...

about the pResident who ignored the Pope and those Catholics that support him?

The Pope was against the Iraq war, and probably still is... (one thing about his Holiness, he is consistent)

[JPace]

9. Just wait till Larry Flynt comes out with

his article (or book) about AWOL
impregnating a young woman then helping
her get an abortion.

Maybe then they will lay of Kerry and
his religion.

[Bake]

13. I'd like to see some dirt on this Donahue creep!

What a sanctimonious prick!

Bake

[Cassandra]

20. He is the self-appointed head of the Catholic League

and one of the most annoying people in NYC (and he has a lot of competition).

[Dookus]

14. and then they can excommunicate

all the death-penalty supporters. And the war-makers. And the divorced.

Donahue is an ass.

[PoliticsSportsMusic]

15. This Donohue creep is about as religious as my butt....

I've seen him on Hardball several times and he gets so mad and so full of hate,it appears religion is the furthest thing from his mind. He is a political hack that uses the church much like the guy usurping the WH at the present uses religion to get what he wants. I leave you with a quote: Beware of false prophets which come to you in sheeps clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.....remind you of anybody????

[Solly Mack]

18. It's tragic that this country has gone ape- caca over religion

and made it to be the (rabid) talking point it now is........ for elections (for everything else too).


Oh, fundie hypocrisy is nothing new and it is downright irritating...but the bigger picture...America gone mad over religion....bothers me more.

Yes, I'm aware that not all religious people are fundies.

[Redleg]

22. It seems my church is becoming more and more right-wing.

They used to care about helping the poor and powerless- now they only care about stopping abortions and homosexuality. I resent that they are using coercion against pro-choice Dems. Why the hell don't they rail against pro-death penalty politicians?

[RoundRockD]

26. Here comes Candy Crowley doing a segment on CNN.

[SharonAnn]

32. That's because Opus Dei controls most of the leadership

positions close to the Pope. And Opus Dei has been actively recruiting and converting in Washington D.C. So it's the Opus Dei message that gets called "Catholicism" instead of Christ's teachings.

Opus Dei has recruited/converted the following:
Antonin Scalia
Clarence Thomas
Robert Novak
Sen. Rick Santorum
Sen. Sam Brownback
Peggy Noonan
Louis Freeh
Rovert Hansson (spy)

Opus Dei, started in Spain around the 1930's was strongly supported by Franco. It was also strongly supported in Peru by Alberto Fujimoro and in Chile by Augusto Pinochet.

It is a very right-wing, heirarchical, secretive, mind-controlling organization. It is beyond conservative. It is very sexist and very classist. In my opinion, it is a cult.

[diamond14]

25. we Catholics will not tolerate this crap...it WILL backfire on bush*

Catholics are not like the fundi-churches of the southern states...
it is everyone's personal decision whether to go to Communion....gosh, even Clinton, a non-Catholic, received Communion from a Catholic Priest during his trip to Africa...some whined about it, but nobody listened....

Kerry will win by a landslide with Catholics...that's why there is a total attack from all those religiously-insane radical-reTHUGlicans....the American taliban attackers...

JFK was raised in the Catholic Church....in a very Catholic area of America...he has been elected for many years to the Senate by CATHOLICS....and IMO, he's on his way to the White House with the full blessing of America's Catholics....OUR second Catholic JFK...

Theodore Cardinal McCarrick said today that he would feel "very uncomfortable" denying communion to politicians because of their political stand on social issues. Then, he assigned the 'concern' to a 'committee of Bishops' to 'study'....thereby, taking the whole discussion off the table for Catholics, during this election season...the issue is now officially DEAD....thanks Cardinal....

(this is pretty much the TOP of the Catholic Church in America)

The Coat of Arms of Theodore Cardinal McCarrick, Archbishop of Washington D.C.

[KC21304]

44. And the study will be done after the election.

I think Kerry should put out a statement that his relationship with his Church and his God are no one's business. Period.

[AussieInCA]

27. let he who is without sin cast the first stone

[rwheeler31]

28. There was a letter in the K C Star today about this,

perhaps a country wide thing. Very damming. The Catholic Church has many faults, but they have promoted peace and social responsibility. I grew up in this faith and I cannot agree with all their positions. Most Catholics understand this is a universal church so they formulate an uderstanding of other nations as try to improve life for all.

[Davis_X_Machina]

33. What's Donohue's stand on the death penalty?

That often ends -- abruptly -- a lot of arguments with Dem-bashing Catholics.

Me -- I'm a Dorothy Day/Catholic Worker/Pax Christi Catholic.

The baaaaaad kind.

[rfkrocks]

35. Dorothy Day rocks!

Met her in New York City Catholic Worker 1973-now she was a Christian!

[diamond14]

42. link to the Catholic Worker Movement and Dorothy Day history...

http://www.catholicworker.org/


The Catholic Worker Movement, founded by Dorothy Day and Peter Maurin in 1933, is grounded in a firm belief in the God-given dignity of every human person.

Today over 185 Catholic Worker communities remain committed to nonviolence, voluntary poverty, prayer, and hospitality for the homeless, exiled, hungry, and foresaken. Catholic Workers continue to protest injustice, war, racism, and violence of all forms.

[DieboldMustDie]

36. Antonin Scalia should be excommunicated...

for his support of death penalty, which the Catholic church is very much against.

[WVhill]

39. The bit about the annulment is bunk.

Kerry did receive an annulment from the Boston diocese. Kerry is not going to be excommunicated. I can't imagine the Catholic Church doing that. They'd have to excommunicate every pro-choice politician. If not, the move would be seen as interferring in our elective process. I think that would swing some fence-sitters to Kerry.

[LividLiberal]

41. That guy is a REAL character. He has calmed down a lot too

He used to be an even worse hysterical zealot.