Why is there such a kneejerk anti-Kerry reaction here?

[ButterflyBlood]

I noticed that when someone posted an article about Kerry's national service plan, which involves NOTHING compulsorary or remotely resembling a draft, and then everyone was screaming "DRAFT DRAFT!"

It seems some people want to do everything to bring Kerry down including using Rovian distortions.

[Avalux]

1. We've been infiltrated

by disruptors. They're sprouting up like weeds and I'm getting damn tired of them. Best to ignore - or do what others are doing - offer them the link to sign up for the Kerry Campaign with the friendly advice that contributing is more constructive than complaining.;)

[David Dunham]

2. Some people still resent the fact Dem primary voters picked Kerry.

[Avalux]

4. No - that's not it

We aren't like that. :eyes:

[brainshrub]

3. I want to like Kerry.

I really do. But while I plan to vote for him, volunteer for his campaign and send money... I'm doing so b/c I'm a yellow-dog Dem and * must be stopped, not because I like him.

Kerry will make a good President, but I suspect he will sell us up the river the moment it's politically expedient to do so. Where was he when the Pat Act was passed? Where was he on the vote for war? Where was he when Medicare was gutted?

[KAZ]

25. This, and the post below me pretty well covers it. n/t

n/t

EDIT: But ABB, always!

[JI7]

5. anger their candidate did not win, or republican trolls

[Jacobin]

6. IWR vote

That's what makes it very hard for me to send him money, but I do it out of my disgust with Smirk

[MrSlayer]

7. I think a lot of people here are still pissed that he's the guy.

Most people on this site did not support Kerry for the nomination so there is a lingering bitterness. It isn't all outside infiltrators.

[laruemtt]

8. i haven't even gotten to vote yet here in wv and

he's already the chosen. i will vote for him in november but still feel somewhat disenfranchised and i don't like it!

[ButterflyBlood]

10. it's fine not to like him

it's another thing to spread blatant lies about him and basically do Rove's job.

[JI7]

17. the voting schedule was in place long before kerry won anything

[RandomKoolzip]

9. Give them a minute of your time and they'll tell you....

That Kerry=Bush, that Kerry is a republican, that Kerry is the anti-Christ, etc. It's because he doesn't pass their very rigorous political purity standard, which is shared by 4% of the US population, themselves included.

I'd almost start believing that liberals really ARE masochists, like many on the right claim, if it didn't give me so much (exquisite) pain to bring it up.

[tabasco]

18. Hahaha! Best post I've read today.

I appreciate brevity.

[NinetySix]

11. Kerry wasn't my first choice...

...but from here he looks like ABB to me. And when I say ABB, I really mean it. Honest to God, I would even prefer a Patrick Buchanan administration to what we have now (four years only, please).

Does anyone here believe that Bob Dole (whom I respected as Senate Majority Leader for his understanding of the great American tradition of political compromise) or John McCain (whom I respect for his disdain for the money that corrupts the political process even now as we speak) would have led as reckless, dishonest, and dangerous an administration as the current Bush Administration?

When the Supreme Court made their partisan decision, I just assumed that the next four years would simply be a political satirist's wet dream and that we would all just laugh our way through it. I never imagined how frightening it would suddenly become, and I'd just as soon have it end as quickly as possible. Sometimes the witch you know is better than the witch you don't know (does that strike a chord with you, Dubya?), but in this case it is NOT true.

John F. Kerry is absolutely fine with me, and if he wins, I imagine he will represent a great relief to sane, non-reactionary Americans everywhere. Remember the joke about the fellow who was hitting himself in the head with a hammer? When asked why he was doing it, he replied, "because it feels so good when I stop!" It's gonna feel so good on January 20, 2005...

[Prodemsouth]

12. He is being mean to their hero W, every poster here who is giving

When you claim to be progressive or to the left and not voting for Kerry then you must be supporting Bush, no ifs, ands, or buts, about it.

[LividLiberal]

13. I don't have Kerry's positions commited to memory, but he is not

advocating a draft with his national service plan. That is a mischaracterization.

If people want a DRAFT, vote for Bush, and there will be one for sure, plus a few more wars.

[NinetySix]

15. That's goddamn right.

The war in Iraq will justify the need for more troops, and after people get comfortable with the draft, the surplus of troops will justify the extension of the "War on Terror" to new ground, like Syria, Iran, Algeria, North Korea, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and perhaps others. It will be an ever-growing vicious circle that will eventually press us all into military service.

[LividLiberal]

16. God help us if Bush gets another term to wreak this havoc upon

the world

[blm]

14. Some other site bragged of their infiltration.

They took on personas of aggrieved Dean supporters. Some pretend to be Kucinich supporters.

Funny thing, they spend most of their time dumping on Kerry than bashing Bush in Bush threads.

[BiggJawn]

19. He's not Howard Al Ralph Carole Kucinich...

That's why. Drag his name through the mud, and when Shrub steals it again they can sit back and go "SEE!?!?! I TOLD you people he was TOO CORPORATE!"

He's not George Bush, and that's plenty good enough for me. Should be for you, too.

And YES, I *AM* presuming to tell you how to vote. Deal with it, OK?

[GreenPartyVoter]

20. He's not Bu$h, but he's not my dream candidate either

He'll get my vote, but I don't have to fall in love with him. Not sure why so many folks here think we do. :shrug:

[Avalux]

21. UNITY

that's what it's all about - has to be to win back the White House. Don't have to love him, but don't bash him either.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. Unity does not mean I have to love him though, just vote for him

Unity does not mean I can't dissect his proposals and make remarks about what I would change, either.

Leave the lock-stepping to the Righties. I'd rather think for myself, and I hope my fellow progressives feel the same way.

[BiggJawn]

24. "Dream Candidate"...Welllllll....

Maybe not, but I think ONE thing we all CAN agree on is that Shrub is a NIGHTMARE CLOWN, can't we?

[rdfi-defi]

22. it is not "kneejerk"

(for me, anyway)

[Dookus]

26. Because Democratic voters

had the unmitigated nerve to vote for someone other than their guy.

No respect for Democracy.

[BillZBubb]

27. The reaction wasn't all anti-Kerry

A lot of it was anti-this-national-service-plan. And you inadvertently hit on the reason for this reaction. The Repugs WILL say it's a draft plan. Kerry will then have to expend a lot of effort trying to convince people it isn't. Rove/Bush* will say he's flip-flopping. You know that.

Meanwhile the people have been conditioned to the idea of the draft coming back. This takes the sting out of it so that the Repugs will get a free pass on this issue. They won't have to fear getting pounded on the draft issue by the us.

Kerry has made a HUGE tactical mistake. I mean HUGE!