Did this pic make the mainstream? I got it from BartCop.

[DemoTex]

Too sad for words. This kind of photo could end the war, though. It's called the Dover Effect.

[Avalux]

1. Hadn't seen it

Thanks. Saving and distributing.....

[jimshoes]

2. I count at least 18

in this photo. This should be front page in USA Today.

[DemoTex]

3. Looks like 18, maybe 20 (2 coffins at the far end?).

Notice the time/date stamp. Last Wednesday.

[carpediem]

4. wow - that is so sad and powerful.

brought tears to my eyes instantly - thinking of all the families that are being ripped apart over this ridiculous war.

I spent a lot of time earlier at the Witmer's website reading about Michelle and her family- here: http://home.wi.rr.com/jwitmer/

it's so awful and unfortunately nowhere close to over.

[cally]

5. It's a conveyor belt

OMG. I think it's more like 36. I never saw it on the news but I rarely watch nowadays.

[catzies]

6. That picture was too sad to caption but you nailed it.

"Conveyor belt." :cry:

[DemoTex]

8. My guess? A Lockheed C-141 airborne conveyor belt.

This goes on every day (with varying numbers of coffins). That's what the Bu$h regime does NOT want the US public to realize. The US public is inured to numbers. However, it is very sensitive to pictures. If Bu$h is going to get them killed, then DemoTex says show the homecomings at Dover AFB, the main morgue for US foreign military operations.

[Shakespeare]

33. Sigh...a grand aircraft; sadly, used for the same purpose in Vietnam

History repeating...

My dad flew home countless bodies from Vietnam when he was flying 141s in the AF. So, so sad to see this again. :cry:

[VNvet]

59. I think you're right...141

I was a pilot back then and flew many plane loads of caskets, but don't recall any flags. What you can't imagine from the photos is the smell. Each box had a pressure relief valve. Medevacs were bad, but at least they were still alive. A year of that, then a year in helicopter at Danang and another year in Caribous at Cameron and Phu Cat. I was very moved by this picture even after twenty-five years.

Interesting the people that must pay the price and their loved ones are not trusted with the overveiw, Bush's grand stategy for the M.E. and then the world. The US is not leaving Iraq, not ever. I'm not entirely convinced world domination is worth it.

[aquart]

7. Great time to be flagmaker.

Hope they aren't made in China.

[DemoTex]

9. Or India.

.

[ComerPerro]

10. That is sick and sad

But thanks for posting it.

:sigh:

I really, really hate Bush and this "rah rah, go war" bullshit that is going on.

[gemlake]

11. What about 677 coffins?

Someone should have a memorial for the Iraq war with a flagged draped coffin for each American soldier. Precisely what the bush* administration refuses to allow the public to see.

BTW, I do recall seeing a similar photo a few weeks ago that were coffins for the Afghanistan soldiers.

[bushiehater]

21. ASU West did just that!

They placed a flag in the ground for each soldier killed in combat. It was a very touching display. The event provided a great reminder that we should lift prayers up to God everyday for the safety and courage of these brave men and women who are fighting as hard as they can.

[JPJones]

12. kick

[BillZBubb]

13. I don't think photos, no matter how sad, will end this war

Americans, for the most part, don't act to stop wars. Since most personally have little at stake, it's not a priority.

[DemoTex]

14. But the lack of emotional stimuli will help perpetuate the "status quo."

"The Dover Effect" is a mainstream theory in political science. The pictures might not end the war, but lack of a shocking reminder as to the reality of the numbers of the day (677, and counting), allows the regime in power to continue to make war, virtually unchecked by public opinion (the weather vane to which they are attuned!).

[not systems]

15. kick

:kick:

[TahitiNut]

16. I'd think the best AntiWar protest would be ...

... for the protesters to carry 680+ empty flag-draped coffins four abreast up Pennsylvania Avenue and stack them in the bocked off section in front of the White House, then gather in Lafayette Park and play taps.

[freeforall]

17. Wow! That would be powerful.

Very sad picture, but something the public needs to see.

* has got a lot to answer for. Pleeeeeease vote this f**ker out of office!

[DemoTex]

22. Plan ahead TahitiNut, my friend

You will need to add 15-20/day to your total. Kind of a moving average. More like the 'Nam than I want to think.

[TahitiNut]

62. I know, good buddy ... them body bags are getting filled again.

Dreams of empire feeding on the corpses of the young. Same ol' shit.

[Danny Boy]

29. I'm down for that

You start to organize it and I'll be there, my little (19) brother is a nat'l guard soldier fighting in Sadr City. He should be home at school, not fighting to maintain an occupation.

[qanda]

37. I hope your brother stays safe

And welcome to DU :hi:

[progressivebydesign]

54. Please keep us updated on your little brother..

.. we have a few people on DU with family over in Iraq right now. We're all family now, I think.

[GiovanniC]

34. I'd Drive From Michigan to Participate

If anyone organizes something like this, I'll be there.

And I might bring friends.

[TahitiNut]

41. We could caravan ...

... and carpool, since there'd sure be more than 4-5 of us.

[GiovanniC]

42. This Protest

Really needs to happen.

[IranianDemocrat]

53. What an idea...

What a message that would send.

[TahitiNut]

60. It's the kind of protest that'd be hard to counter.

What would the freepers do? Denigrate the dead? Soil the flag? :shrug:

Imagine the visual of acres of flag-draped caskets. Twenty in the cargo hold of a plane is one thing. Over 700 (who knows how many?) covering an acre or two would have people stunned.

[Qanisqineq]

55. just reading that idea brought tears to my eyes

:cry:

[dmr]

73. Mine too

That pic is heartbreaking.

This protest would be heartbreaking. A very somber and sobering moment it would be for America. It would make this horrifying war a reality and affect every American who has a heart.

[Qanisqineq]

74. I've seen this pic 3 times today

and everytime I see it, I tear up. And I thought the first time or two would desensitize me.

I am not a woman that cries easily, so I can't imagine how the rest of the nation would react to seeing this.

[Earth_First]

66. Anyone want to make this happen?

I'll step forward and help make this happen...

[TahitiNut]

67. I wish I knew how.

Beyond the questions of organization and activation, there're questions of permits and logistics.
-- Where to get/make 700+ (open-bottomed?) boxes the size of caskets? Once obtained, how to ship and store them?
-- Whether permits to cover the barricaded block of Pennsyvania Avenue with this array are even obtainable. Aren't "they" likely to claim they could conceal bombs?
-- How to ensure the boxes are removed and disposed of afterwards?
-- There're costs involved. Even at $25@ for materials, that's $17,500.

Would an alternate venue make more sense? Lincoln Memorial? Dunno.


I'd sure like to help make it happen. Being in the Detroit area and having daily caregiver/support responsibilities doesn't make it easy.

[Earth_First]

68. I understand your concerns...

civil disobedience? no permit? have each participating group build and bring their own flag draped 'casket'

rather than have it be an all day a.n.s.w.e.r or unitedforpeace event, more along the lines of a "flash mob" only as "flash procession"

[TahitiNut]

69. We'd need a minimum of about 3,000 "pall-bearers".

At only four per 'casket'. It'd be too hokey otherwise, I think.

But if it could be done, it'd sure be awesome. And it's not even 1/80th the size of Vietnam ... yet.

[Earth_First]

70. 3,000 is a drop in the bucket...

I'd be willing to bet that there are double that in the beltway alone that would be willing to participate, there's one individual in this thread that would be willing to participate from Michigan. I really think that this needs to get some good, full offline thought, my views are that there are too many eyes to discuss an event such as this via electronic communication...

[GiovanniC]

81. I Just Want to Say

I will do WHATEVER IT TAKES to make this happen, to the fullest extent of my ability. I've never organized or even participated in a large-scale protest, so I don't have the knowledge that would be required to actually put this thing together. But if there's anything I can do to make this a reality, I will.

The nation needs to see this.

[Earth_First]

87. I'm going to make some telephone calls today

I know a few people in a few places, I'll keep you all posted.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

91. It would hurt this maladmin. That's why they'd never allow it to happen.

I can't imagine that these fascists would let such a valid and powerful visual protest against them happen.

They would definitely play the 'security card' and 'time of war card' and disallow it.

In fact, I'm sure that there are people watching this site and other sites to get wind of any effective displays of protest to prevent and plan against them.

These are public plans we're making here to damage the veneer of virtue of the most powerful group of killers on the planet.

Bull Connor and his police dogs are back in power. We're all black now.

[pissedoff]

95. no need for civil disobedience.....

very good point about flash procession - just need to get coverage

[pissedoff]

96. no need for civil disobedience.....

very good point about flash procession - just need to get coverage

[Jane Austin]

71. Check out the floral industry.

I think I've seen large rectangular cardboard boxes for shipping flowers.

[Nazgul35]

116. The 3000 poll barrers would double as the

amount of men and women wounded in combat.....dressed appropriately....full media coverage to get the full impact of this....

Perhaps the coffins laid out on the mall between the Washington monument and the refelcting pool.....than have the wounded lay down as well in a group...

Anyone think of contacting MoveOn about this one?

edited to add:

Think of Memorial Day weekend.....the most appropriate time and would allow time for planning and obtaining permits....

[oasis]

18. kick

[not systems]

19. kick

:kick:

[ILeft]

20. Remember Wolfowitz predicting the Iraqis would wave flags?

I remember seeing that bastard telling Americans how the Bush Regime had dropped thousands of little American flags in Iraq and that the Iraqis would joyously wave them at the American soldiers...

This Regime is lethally clueless.

[DemoTex]

23. That's an old joke of mine, slightly revised.

My joke is that I flew, in Vietnam, for The Salvation Army: dropping "Come-to-Jesus" leaflets on the Ho Chi Mihn Trail at night.

[Hornito]

24. kick

n/t

[Scottie72]

25. I saw a sound bite of *

yesterday morning. He said with a huge grin! I mean a huge grin! :puke: "Yea, it was a bad week, (laugh)' It made me so sick that I wanted to puke.

[leftchick]

28. that grinning and cackling while speaking of death,,,,

I find it so disturbing I can't even imagine why people think he is "a nice guy "... :puke:

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

26. buzzflash has link to this thread

[wicket]

27. that's how I got here :)

[kaitykaity]

32. Me too.

It should be published far and wide. May George W. Bush burn in the hell he believes in.

[wicket]

35. Buzzflash rules

I donate to them and buy bookks through them whenever I can.

[Dees]

30. I saw this on Bartcop as well.

It's tough for me to look at this pic for any amount of time. Loading body bags with dead GI buddies. I never got used to it at all and still haven't.

[nadinbrzezinski]

44. And never will (KICK)

[Presidentcokedupfratboy]

31. Is that how "liberators" are greeted?

Bush or Cheney won't see those pictures, either. They're both too chickenshit to take any responsibility for what has happened in Iraq.

[WillyT]

36. Damn It !!!

:argh:

[feistydem]

38. It's on Dominant Reality too, with a special thanks to you DemoTex

http://www.dominantreality.com

TGFI --Thank God for the Internet

...or we'd all be in the dark

[fbahrami]

39. too sad

for the young americans returning in coffins

for the iraqi and afghan civilians rarely mentioned

[feistydem]

40. excellent point on a glaring omission...

We may never know the numbers of the Iraqi dead who were just going about their lives when bombs dropped on them, or were killed in a panic by some young,inexperienced soldier --but their lost lives are just as significant --if not more so because they didn't sign up for this war.

[amenenema]

75. Amen

". . . the heart within them screamed for all-out war!
Like vultures robbed of their young,
the agony sends them frenzied,
soaring high from the nest, round and
round they wheel, they row their wings,
stroke upon churning thrashing stroke,
but all the labor, the bed of pain,
the young are lost forever."
(Aeschylus: _Agamemnon_; circa 470 BCE)

Amen

[JaySherman]

43. kick

:kick:

[mojowork_n]

45. They're all so young.

Faces do appear in hometown newspapers. Kids who should have their whole lives ahead of them... The pictures of spouses holding babies, and anxious siblings and parents say just as much.

[Name removed]

46. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Interrobang]

48. Behave.

*Nobody* likes to see dead people coming home in boxes. I'm more left than 99% of everyone on this board, and I didn't have anything to do with the Shrub's Excellent Iraq Adventure (check the avatar), and even *I* don't.

If you ever spit on a soldier, I hope you get charged with assault.

[everythingsxen]

49. I am counting the seconds until...

you are banned.

Bye! Nice seeing you, entertaining disruption.

If you had any clue what DU was actually about you would know that we want to see our troops home, alive and not spit upon but cheered for doing their duty, despite being sent on a fool's errand by a madman.

[Florida_Geek]

47. How did I end up here

I was over at BuzzFlash and click on a link.... :evilgrin:

[AbbeyRoad]

50. Linked also from www.michaelmoore.com

on Moore's Must Reads for today:

"Did the media miss this picture?"

[donhakman]

51. I did this one 4 months ago

[kotto]

106. authentic

Is this an authentic photo of returning coffins from Iraq?

[Octafish]

52. "Gut wrench-ing."

... is how Gee Duhbya put it in his 12th press conference.

[progressivebydesign]

56. Actually.. in the press conference..

he said, and I paraphrase closely, 'no one likes to see DEAD PEOPLE on the t.v.'.. then he followed with the "gut-wrenching" term.

[Octafish]

58. Look, nobody likes to see dead people on their television screens. I don't

Yeh. That's why I brought it up... and to kick up a most important photo. Thanks for seeing it, Caliphoto!

Here's the quote from the crazy moron:

"Look, nobody likes to see dead people on their television screens. I don't. It's a tough time for the American people to see that. It's gut-wrenching." -- George W Bush

Source: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/04105/300508.stm

[progressivebydesign]

57. Can we keep this kicked? It's too sad and powerful to slip down.. N/T

[Tellurian]

65. The idea for the 680 flag draped coffins facing the steps of the WH

would create a powerful front page pictorial seen round the world.

I hope to see it happen-

These heroes should not have died in vain.

[Jane Austin]

72. kick

n/t

[TahitiNut]

80. It'd be perfect for Memorial Day.

:shrug:

[aquart]

61. Behold: The new rationale for war.

They shall not have died in vain.

[Earth_First]

63. Here is another Dover AFB image from memoryhole.org

[Zhade]

64. Thanks. I sent that out to family and friends...

...some of whom are so clueless they actually support this madness.

I think I'll start a new tradition of sending the pro-war ones new images as they appear.

Unfortunately, there will be no shortage of such images.

[JaySherman]

76. Kicking again for the morning people.

Let's keep this kicked.

:kick:

[DSS_63]

77. Results

For those of us who have wondered about Bush's censoring of pictures of the results of the war on Iraq (a war that started by America under false pretenses) take a look at the pictures found on this website. A brave journalist has defied the Bush administration's censoring of photographs of coffins returning home draped with
American flags. And though Bush has pinned the Purple Heart on a few soldiers as a photo opportunity, he has yet to attend one funeral or memorial service for any brave soldier that has lost his life in the conflict.

To me this show that not only can you be a patriot without being a Republican, but the leader of the Republican Party is too cowardice to face (or allow the American People to see) the devastation unleashed by his decision to send our patriotic soldiers into a battle with no strategic plan. Please work as hard as you can to prevent this man from returning to office.

[RoadRunner]

78. hi DSS_63, Welcome to DU!!

Gladya' found us! :hi:

[DSS_63]

86. Thanks

I am glad to have found you as well!

[truth2power]

79. Richard Perle quote....

What did Richard Perle say about (paraphrasing) if we fight numerous wars, someday our children will sing our praises?

I would add, "If we fight numerous wars, we won't have any children left." I wonder if he thought of that.

edit> found quote:

"If we let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely, and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy but just wage a total war, our children will sing great songs* about us years from now." Richard Perle

[Zatoichi2]

82. Touching, but

The world's getting too small. We're either gonna fight terrorists here over there, or over here. You can't bargain with or appease a fanatic that's sworn to kill you. Fighting for what you believe in is seldom without cost. My heart goes out to the families, but most of those who join the service do so knowing the risks, myself included when I was in service.

[GiovanniC]

83. Iraq Wasn't a Hotbed of Terrorist Activity

Until we made it that way.

And even then, I am suspicious of attempts to characterize the people attacking our troops in Iraq as terrorists... especially when I'd be out on the street armed to the teeth killing invaders if MY country was invaded and occupied.

[Zatoichi2]

88. Iraq Wasn't a Hotbed of Terrorist Activity

and you know this how? When the day comes that someone like S.H. uses WOMD that will dwarf 9-11, what will you say? Your either going to handle aggresive enemies not intrested in communication one of two ways. You're going to passify them (nearly impossible and unless you enjoy being at a radical's mercy, undesiraable), or you're going to bring the war to their doorstep. There's no in-between solution.

[GiovanniC]

90. Which Weapons of Mass Destruction Might Those Be?

The ones we sold him?

And where are they? Have we searched all the turkey farms yet?

[TahitiNut]

92. I love the smell of linear thinking in the morning.

(Not.) FWIW, it's spelled "pacify." :eyes:

It's fascinating to me how fear-mongers rely so heavily on (mis)characterizing those whom they target. We never have to actually ask people what they want or think when the fear-mongers are so willing to define them preemptively ... usually with projection.

It seems to me that there's almost nobody less interested in "communicating" and less capable of doing so honestly than the Busholini cabal. The Nit-witted Narcissist's performance last night is a case in point. He demonstrated his nearly total disconnect not only with the questions posed but with the realities both at home and in the Middle East.

[pissedoff]

93. anti-coffin demonstration

Hi all, new here...forgive me for my mistakes in advance please. :-)

got some ideas for the anti-coffin demonstration...

you wouldn't need boxes, just frames that could be put together like with a staple gun. then staple the flags (which sounds like the most costly part at this time) to the frames. easy to transport in pieces then set up on site - easy to store and transport for other rallies, also easy to check for security people...no box, no hiding places for bombs. (although I find it hard to believe that any terrorist would strike at an anti-war rally! no matter what this administration would LIKE me to believe.)

So right now, the main issue is flags.....

[Bridget Burke]

84. There's no link between 9/11 & Iraq.

The Iraqi situation is now breeding new terrorists but the whole thing could have been avoided.

I wonder if the men (and women?) in those coffins knew they were going to invade Iraq when they signed up? What battles did you fight?

[EV1Ltimm]

85. i know i'm not supposed to feed trolls but...

killing fanatics will just breed more fanatics. it's a lose/lose situation.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

89. So what you're saying is Bush's lies mean more to you than these lives.

:puke:

[pissedoff]

94. anti-coffin logistics

Hi all, new here...forgive me for my mistakes in advance please.

got some ideas for the anti-coffin demonstration...

you wouldn't need boxes, just frames that could be put together like with a staple gun. then staple the flags (which sounds like the most costly part at this time) to the frames. easy to transport in pieces then set up on site - easy to store and transport for other rallies, also easy to check for security people...no box, no hiding places for bombs. (although I find it hard to believe that any terrorist would strike at an anti-war rally! no matter what this administration would LIKE me to believe.)

So right now, the main issue is flags.....and participants

[TahitiNut]

97. 6' x 10' Nylon = $53.50

https://www.cvsflags.com/outdoor.cfm

[Tellurian]

98. Hi and Welcome...

yep, the frame thing is a good idea and makes alot of sense for all the reasons you mentioned. Hey, if all attendees bring just one flag, problem solved.

[robertpaulsen]

99. Kick

Great (tragic) photos and great ideas to protest this sick war.

[DoctorMyEyes]

100. Maybe people could just hold up the flags

If you had thousands of people protesting in front of the white house, holding up in spread out fashion, American flags, 670 of them or whatever the number of dead is now, I'd say it would be a pretty impressive sight. The media would know what the flags are supposed to represent....

Groups of people could chip in to purchase flags, and it could all be coordinated here on DU.

What do you think?

I think that the image would be at once pro-American and anti-Bush.

[helderheid]

101. Idea from Kucinich4President yahoo group about the protest

Hi all - I've passed these ideas and the thread onto K4P (where I learned about the thread in the first place). We should contact Veterans for Peace.

Helderheid

From:
Date: Wed Apr 14, 2004 3:47 pm
Subject: ........to carry 680+ empty flag-draped coffins .......


Even better: If all the pall bearers were veterans, preferably in
uniform or VFW uniform.

R Scott


--- In [e-mail], "Clarity Sanderson Jonker"
<clarity@w...> wrote:
> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard
> php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1395585
> > I think this is an EXCELLENT idea - thought I'd pass it to K4P in
hopes
> those close to DC could get in on this:
> > 16. I'd think the best AntiWar protest would be ...
> ... for the protesters to carry 680+ empty flag-draped coffins four
abreast > up Pennsylvania Avenue and stack them in the bocked off
section in front of > the White House, then gather in Lafayette Park
and play taps.

[Tellurian]

102. I'm sure, Move-on and George Soros would pitch in a few $$$$...

To see this happen.

Don't forget, further upstream someones idea of wood frames, in lieu of wooden boxes, would solve many problems...ie, weight issues, transporting, easily searched etc..

HERE:

94. anti-coffin logistics
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 04:29 PM by pissedoff


Hi all, new here...forgive me for my mistakes in advance please.

got some ideas for the anti-coffin demonstration...

you wouldn't need boxes, just frames that could be put together like with a staple gun. then staple the flags (which sounds like the most costly part at this time) to the frames. easy to transport in pieces then set up on site - easy to store and transport for other rallies, also easy to check for security people...no box, no hiding places for bombs. (although I find it hard to believe that any terrorist would strike at an anti-war rally! no matter what this administration would LIKE me to believe.)

So right now, the main issue is flags.....and participants

[TahitiNut]

104. I think the illusion of bodies in caskets is very important.

It's one thing to see a bunch of flags ... and quite another to see them as covering caskets. I toyed with the notion of miniatures ... but I think it loses so much power that the "bang for buck" is reduced even more than the "buck".

There's something VERY powerful about "he ain't heavy; he's my ..." as four or six people carry the simulated caskets ... possibly on their inside shoulders. Walking four caskets abreast up Pennsylvania Avenue, and the solemn wait as ALL of them arrive, would have the impact even as much or more as a still image of their array.

If this were done on Memorial Day (I know; pigs will fly), there'd probably be about 800 caskets. That's 200 rows of four arriving, one row every 15-20 seconds. Well, gee ... that means it'd take more than an hour for all of them to arrive! That's powerful -- it emphasizes the numbers. It's one thing to read "800" ... and another to experience it.


I have a really obscene idea ... is it possible that there'd be 911 deaths on June 30th - in time for "Independence Day"?? (911 is a symbolic number, especially on Iraqi Independence Day. Even though I hate making the association.)

[Tellurian]

105. Seeing Bush hasn't a solution to end this war...

800 caskets may be too conservative a number- especially if Republicans maintain power in the next election.

The never ending flow of caskets marching by 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. (Hey, theres a number 1600) would stir even the most ardent war supporter's soul.

[mulethree]

114. wow an hour at 4 abreast

I was wondering why not single file?

Then plant some people around to salute the passing coffins. Encourage bystanders to salute. That would be say 3 hours and feel like 20 to anyone embarassed to stop saluting.

If its really an hour you could do it with half the pall bearers and have them go back for a second coffin.

[Magginkat]

107. Flags

I think you might get better results with 670+ banners with the name of a soldier printed on it.

Bush & his gang of thugs would take the flags as a sign of support since he has laid a false claim of patriotism on the U.S. flag.

Every time someone waves a flag in my face I ask them to tell me where their little patriotic flag was made. Most are shocked to see "made in China" in small letters.

Maggie

[pissedoff]

110. we

I have a few images of flags (stickers etc.) that were given or collected in the post 9/11 patriotic blur. It didn't take me long to realize what was going on tho... and I immediately had problems with the God Bless America all over the place. Anyway... I began to cringe when I saw these flag images...until I fixed them with a huge peace sign (usually in black permanent marker) drawn over the stars and stripes. Thats what you could do to coffin flags...AND you could have the name of a fallen soldier written on the flag and also a photo of soldier attached as well.

[Magginkat]

112. Writing on Flags.................

If you write the names on the flags you can probably count on Ashcroft's goons calling it desecrating the flag. Never mind that a picture of Bush doing just that a few weeks ago was floating around the internet!

I like your idea of the pictues attached and the names could be imprinted on those!

[wicket]

103. Drudge has now got this picture on his front page!

http://www.drudgereport.com/

Kick!

[sce56]

108. how about these pictures :-(

They made the main stream on 911 but no one slowed it down back then <>

Video is here http://www.letsroll911.org/images/WF-LetsRoll.Pod.Missile.wmv

go to http://letsroll911.org and read the rest of the story as we are now witnessing the new "Warren commision" style coverup of the 21st Century.

[Dark]

109. What was the Warren Commission?

[sce56]

111. The coverup of the 20th century!

Report of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy

http://www.archives.gov/research_room/jfk/warren_commission/warren_commission_report.html

[pissedoff]

113. memorial day

would be perfect for this demonstration...

kick

[helderheid]

119. That is spot on

PERFECT.

[revcarol]

115. Non-pall bearers could carry the flag of their loved one in its case.

or as folded by the honor guard at the funeral.

[pissedoff]

117. We MUST do this for the fallen...

it is more than an anti-war demo...it is an obligation to the memory of the fallen. This should not be your normal Memorial Day festivities this year...

Does anyone have an update on this? I know someone mentioned making phone calls etc. I am ready to do the same. Mr. Moore wanted help spending his tax refund....I think Veterans for Peace would be another good contact...Soros..

[pissedoff]

118. John Lennon - Legend

has anyone seen this DVD? Its awesome and worth picking up for one song in particular! Great video of John at rallys. Also footage from Tianemen square, Kent State, etc...you really oughta pick it up. Bless Yoko for her words on peace at the Grammys...Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

Say you want a revolution
We better get on right away
Well you get on your feet
And out on the street

Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

A million workers working for nothing
You better give 'em what they really own
We got to put you down
When we come into town

Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

I gotta ask you comrades and brothers
How do you treat you own woman back home
She got to be herself
So she can free herself

Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
Now, now, now, now

Oh well, power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

Yeah, power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on

Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on