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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:31 PM
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Randi said Mike Malloy is really good; Schultz not good!
Any chance she might convince them to hire him, you think????
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:35 PM
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1. And I agree with her
There's something about that Schultz guy that reminded me of Rush. I just couldn't listen to him. And now Randi says he was a Republican who saw money to be made in liberal radio. Well - HAH!

You go, Randi, for touting Mike Malloy. Maybe she'll help get him on Air America in the long run. I sure hope so!
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:35 PM
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2. Hope springs eternal.
-as
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:43 PM
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4. Um.
Schultz's show preempts Rhodes' on the Portland affiliate, right? So he's in competition with her? Which is, perhaps, why she's dissing him. I haven't heard enough of him to form an opinion, but dammit, I don't want Air America people to be using their time for pure careerism and venting about personal/professional feuds.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:46 PM
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6. There's a back story.
Which Randi just alluded to.

Schultz tried to cut Randi out of Air America when it was in planning, and it backfired. All radio people are careerists, but Schultz was playing cut-throat. That's why he's not on Air America. FYI.


-as
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:57 PM
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11. Didn't know that.
Interesting, but I still don't want to hear this personal bellyaching on Air America.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:46 PM
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7. She said he had really mistreated her because he thought
he was in competition against him. Apparently he did not know both were going to be hired. And you don't mess with Randi.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:00 PM
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12. don't think so - it's 2 hours behind eastern time - very frustrating
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stewert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:41 PM
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3. I Agree And Disagree !

I agree that Malloy is better than Schultz, but they are both good. I think it's
a small difference, they are both good but Malloy is a little better.

Some advertisers may not want to buy time on a Malloy show, they may think
referring to the Bush family as the Bush crime family is going over the top.

I used to listen to Malloy every day, but he is a big time liberal who don't hold
back. While we love that, a lot of advertisers may not. I think they should have
both of them.

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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:45 PM
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5. We need both!
They both reach slightly different types...Shultz is more moderate, Malloy is a firebrand. One isn't better than the other. They are both talented and easy to listen to.

I remember reading there was some bad blood between Randi and Ed.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:47 PM
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8. With all due respect to Randi,
Her and Mike and Ed play to different audiences. Ed is doing his own thing, trying to appeal to blue-collar middle America. He doesn't get wound up in the same manner of a Malloy or Rhodes. I think Ed will bring more than his share of voters who are not ready to accept that chimpy LIHOP or MIHOP, but still have nagging questions about his leadership.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:49 PM
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9. We need a second network.
I will say this again, and keep saying it until people will help me do it;

We need a SECOND Liberal/Progressive radio network. One that is non-profit so that it does not need to worry about making money and can take risks with people like Mike Malloy, Peter Werbe, and Guy James who might upset advertisers.

-Ben Burch
White Rose Society Webmaster
http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 05:56 PM
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10. Mike Malloy
rocks and i am waiting for MOLLY
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:34 PM
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17. I want my Mike Malloy on Air America. He deserves it. he is good.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:37 PM
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31. Tall order.
It took two years to get a for-profit network funded. A non-profit would seem to be nearly impossible.

Where would the money come from?

-as
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 10:38 PM
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35. Yes, it certainly is.
Stranger, I know that it is. I know it's a huge longshot. But that doesn't make it not worth doing.

Here is my idea;

We fund it through several methods;

1. Subscriptions. Yes, just like NPR. With pledge drives and etc. We give permiums, coffeecups, t-shirts, books. Just like NPR stations.

2. Grants. We go to the foundations. Soros. Bill Gates Sr. Basically we beg. In return the foundations get the "Funding for The Mike Malloy Show provided in part by The Soros Foundation."

3. Bequests. We convince people that they can leave the world a better place by putting the new network into their Wills.

Finally, I do expect that we would have to sell some advertising, or at least, to provide space where the local stations can insert ads. Limbaugh gives his show away for free, but gives the local stations a big block of ad time.

This will require sacrifice, pain, stress, tears, sweat, thought, and hope.

"Make no small plans, for they fail to stir the blood of men." - Daniel Burnham, Architect

-Ben Burch
White Rose Society Webmaster
http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org/
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 10:35 PM
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34. Radiopower.org
Not exactly a network, but it's still an avenue for listening to liberal talk radio. And Ben, if I miss something on radiopower, I catch it archived on your site (thanks).
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 10:41 PM
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36. You're welcome.
And yes, I see Radiopower as being a potential seed for this network. It is in the equation someplace. However, Shelby does not see the need for radio broadcast at all. Perhaps she is right? I don't know, but I do know that being on radio has bootstrapped the popularity of the web stream of Air America.

-Ben
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newsguyatl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:01 PM
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13. reminder that mike will be on cnn daybreak
again tomorrow morning at 6:40am EST opposite neal boortz.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:06 PM
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14. Keep in mind that Randi is NYC
and Ed Schultz is heartland. We out here in the heartland tend to think a little differently than NYC folks. Not that one is better than the other, just that there are differences. Maybe we need both. I have stated in the past that there should be a voice from the heartland on AirAmericaRadio and maybe there will be, eventually.
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gemlake Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:34 PM
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30. I'm in the "heartland"
and I prefer Randi Rhodes. XM has only one hour of Randi and three hours of Ed Schultz. Schultz is OK--and vastly better than right-wing radio--but he's a little boring. Randi will come out swinging, every day.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:23 PM
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15. Randi - I know and love Shultz - I read a few things here
it adds up to Randi is a goddess, Shults an opportunist.
And, yeah, I am from NYC.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:35 PM
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19. I like Randi and Ed.
Why can't we have both?
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 06:29 PM
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16. Fuck we've been saying Mike Malloy is the best for month's now.
There is absolutely no doubt, Malloy is the ultimate professional, a Democrat, progressive, knows his shit and is funny as fuck.

So how come he can't get a gig in this fucking moderate, right-wing country???
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:35 PM
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18. yeah, i don't get it. malloy is the best. nt
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:37 PM
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20. She could say that Malloy was Jesus Return-ed and it wouldn't matter.
Whilst AA is Liberal it's also deathly afraid of offending anyone.

I bet Randi will catch shit for being too aggressive soon...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:51 PM
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21. But JanMichael -
Franken is their cornerstone and he offends during every blessed broadcast. It occurred to me after listening to AA for just that first week, much of Malloy feels like it would fit in the lineup. I used to listen to him every night and he wasn't always a flaming, over the top wild man. Much of his broadcasts were cogent analysis and great callers.

Garofolo & Sam don't pull any punches either, btw. I've been surprised at how I expected AA to be much tamer than it's turned out. Our dear Guy James would sound tame compared to much of AA.

My 2¢
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:23 PM
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27. I think the aggresive tone (Ie. confrontation with neo-con callers)
Is much greater on Guy James than the AA folks.

I've only listened to a few hours now and I still like the heavy call-in shows more than the dialogue shows.

I like Garofalo and hope that she has the patience to make it work. I also hope she starts taking all calls be they Us or Them.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 09:54 PM
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32. Well, Randi has lots of call-ins
I like the balance of the week with Guy and Randi taking so many calls and then Franken and Garofolo doing lots of the other format. As well as Peter Werbe and his own brand of balancing things on Sunday nights. One host I've been totally delighted with is Laura Flanders. She's such a pro at being on the air and orchestrating a tight broadcast. She's very rip snap with a terrific voice and is so well informed.

At this point, I see the liberal talk landscape as pretty broad with lots for me to choose from. I even squeeze in listening to Lynn Cullen in the early hours of my day. She's really my morning cup of coffee these days. So, no one network has to do it all for me. Malloy feels conspicuous by his absence, though.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 07:59 PM
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22. Not if Rhodes' gets high ratings..no one gets shit when ratings are high..
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 08:00 PM by Zinfandel
except maybe Howard Stern.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:03 PM
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24. I love AA, but Mike Malloy should have been their first pick as a host!
I miss Mike!
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:31 PM
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29. I've been writing the same thing so often-until Malloy dis-likers started
Edited on Mon Apr-12-04 08:45 PM by Zinfandel
coming out of the woodwork here on DU. And I found myself spending time defending Malloy...which should not be necessary, Malloy's talent speaks for itself.

Malloy is the absolute best, he would be the "Superstar" on AAR, if given the chance...Malloy has so much going for him.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:14 PM
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25. You're right about Stern...Ratings don't always matter.
I'll also ad that Guy James has a BIG local (Not to mention as big a streaming audiance as most national shows) audiance but of course it's in Reichwing SW Florida, thus zero business support...

So one can get shit even with good ratings.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:02 PM
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23. Oh, I don't know.
Frankly, I think a lot of Malloy's views are too extreme for Air America. Just one example: I distinctly recall Malloy going off one night about how he hates religion and how he hates Christians. That kind of talk undoubtedly would repel huge numbers of audience members!

Air America wants to attract listeners, not drive them away. As talented as Malloy is, I don't think he'd last long on Air America without toning down his invective.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:17 PM
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26. Maybe he is somewhat extreme for daytime
They have nobody on after 11pm. A late night show with Mike would be great.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 08:27 PM
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28. Dude...I'm a godless Socialist and I was able to keep it cool....
...on the Guy James show. Well at least on most occasions...

Sure I was the co-host but he never told me what to say or to shut up. I simply held my tongue. It's really not that difficult to filter one's views if the medium demands it.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-12-04 10:02 PM
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33. That's only telling half the story
When Mike talks about hating Christians - he's very clear about how it's the hypocrits that turn him off. He always elaborates with crystal clear examples. The way I figure it, if some of the right wing religious leaders can say things like Falwell's post 9/11 comment - and still get to be a talking head on various cable news programming - then Malloy's calling them on their awfulness won't sour the milk of nursing mothers. He's levelling the field, as I see it. Besdies, Franken has said some pretty audacious stuff and he's the cornerstone of AA.

So, frankly, Malloy's views are not necessarily too extreme. Unless of course, one can't handle a level playing field.
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