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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:46 AM
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Pres speech to address memo - coming up live MSNBC
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:48 AM
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1. what?
president george II is gracing us with his words?

:puke:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:49 AM
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2. Yeah
Is his vacation over? I wouldn't want to interfere with is vacation.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:51 AM
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4. egads, let's not interrupt his Easter dinner
wonder if they'll show it on CNNI...so far nothing yet.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:49 AM
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3. So they say -
they're showing his helicopter on the tarmac.

he's supposed to come out, stand at a podium and address the memo
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:51 AM
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5. He is not addressing the Iraq mess?
He is at Ft. Hood visiting soldiers and he addresses the memo? Good lord I am confused.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:55 AM
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7. He's coming out on Easter Sunday to attempt damage control....
Ya gotta love it!

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:51 AM
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6. If he admits to having read the memo
Then he has to explain why he went ahead with his photo op on 9/11.

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

:headbang:
rocknation
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 10:56 AM
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8. What is the over/under on the number of lies he will tell?
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:00 AM
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9. he's going to say saddam did 9/11
the very reverand brit hume TOLD me that Saddam did 9/11. and he regularly played squash with President George I, of whom only Thomas Friedman seems to pay proper homage. I can only assume Sir Thomas was deep in policy research and his own studies in the metaphysics of neoconism, because President George II was in fact FISHING with President George I yesterday. Surely they've worked out everything and still had time to discuss "pussy."

Surely this press conference is the fruit of that conversation!

from Sir Thomas' column today:

President Bush, please call home. You need some of your father's wisdom right now. The old man, Bush 41, may not have had the vision thing, but he did have the prudence thing. He understood that he could not expel Saddam Hussein from Kuwait without a real coalition that included Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia and other key Arab states, not to mention all the NATO allies and the U.N. America would not have had the legitimacy to operate in that theater for the length of time required without Arab and European cover.


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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:00 AM
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10. his mug is on the TV now. n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:02 AM
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11. chimp: if Gen Abizaid needs extra manpower he can ask for it
where the hell are they going to come from you f'ing idiot? :puke:
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:05 AM
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12. THE BEST PART IS THE BIRD IN THE BACKGROUND!!!!
Every time B* opens his mouth the bird starts mocking him! much better than the press!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:05 AM
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13. HE just lied...he said he asked for the PDB
BEN-VENISTE: Good morning, Director Tenet.

I want to start out by thanking you and the extraordinary people who work at CIA for their dedication to the task of countering the terrorist threat.

And, as you know, I have been an admirer of you personally and, in the time that we have spent together, understand the tremendous pressures that individuals have been under in your agency to protect our country.

Let me pick up on, since my colleague, Senator Kerrey, raised the question -- with respect to the PDD of August 8, 2001, Dr. Rice has made some statements to us and, to some extent, publicly with respect to the origin of that document.

Is it fair to say that the recollection of CIA, which we have received in a written document from your office, contains a different recollection -- that that August 8th PDD was initiated by individuals within the CIA and not as a direct request from the national security adviser?

TENET: I simply don't know. I don't know what we've responded or what the origin is. I just don't know.

BEN-VENISTE: You might ask Mr. Bonk (ph) who is sitting behind you.

It is correct that we had received a document from you dated March 19th, 2004, in which that correction is noted?

BONK (ph): I think we initiated it, but...

TENET: Would you like Mr. Bonk (ph) to respond?

BEN-VENISTE: Well, he can whisper in your ear.

So that the record is correct on this point, since it was raised by Senator Kerrey, I think it's appropriate that we have been advised that the August 6th PDD was the product of individuals within CIA without prompting from national security...

(CROSSTALK)

TENET: Commissioner Ben-Veniste, Ben only has a recollection. Let me come back for the record. I'll go back and look at this. I just don't...

BEN-VENISTE: Well, I'll read into the record.

The author of this piece and others familiar with it say they have no information to suggest that this piece was written in response to a question from the president. And indeed, it goes on to say that it was prompted by an idea from the CIA.

So we have these clarifications and it's appropriate that the record be as accurate as possible.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20349-2004Mar24.html
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:06 AM
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16. admits to reading and that it wasn't all historical analysis n/t
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:05 AM
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14. Even those birds behind him know bullshit.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:05 AM
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15. He keeps insisting HE REQUESTED THE PDB?? IS THAT TRUE?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:08 AM
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20. What's your guess? How do you know when he's telling the truth?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:08 AM
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21. NO
see post #13
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:07 AM
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17. junior still doesn't get it -
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:07 AM
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18. We knew America was hated by Bin Laden. I bet he got the
the information directly from the Bin Laden family.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:08 AM
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19. I hate when he starts talking about "praying on bended knee" for
the security of our soldiers, etc. etc.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:09 AM
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22. Also on CNN
As he walked up to the press, he looked like he was gonna cry and have a tantrum
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:15 AM
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23. If he's coming out to speak on EASTER SUNDAY
then he must be concerned about the damage this memo is creating. Otherwise, why not wait until a time when it's not a holiday. Alot of people are with family and "playing easter bunny" so, most won't even be watching, so that is a plus.


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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:26 AM
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24. He looked terrible
like he forgot the hair gel or conditioner this morning .
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:29 AM
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25. if he requested it ... what does that prove? that he reads?
I don't think it matters whether he requested it or not ... it's the actions taken to either prevent, guard, precaution ... or let/make it happen ...

memos are CYA devices ... put it in writing or it hasn't been said

besides ... PDBs are normal operating procedure, aren't they?

they're just done due to precedent, custom, whatever?
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 11:40 AM
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26. transcript
Edited on Sun Apr-11-04 12:06 PM by Must_B_Free
Happy easter everybody
Its our honor to have celebrated this Holy day with family members who's loved ones is in Iraq. Fort Hood is made a mighty contribution to freedom in Iraq, security for the country, value my time with the family members and, those who uh scarified on behalf of the country

Today I ask for Gods blessings for out troops overseas, may he protect them, and may he continue to bless our country. I'll answer a couple of questions, Scott

: Thank you mister Mr President We're coming off a week in which dozens of Americans have died, we've seen images of incredible violence and chaos, should Americans embrace for weeks and months of this and you expect it to abate soon and also what's gen., abazejh telling you about how many more troops are needed :

yeah I've spoken to general Abazeh twice in the last 4 or 5 days. He knows full well than when he speaks to me that if he needs additional man power he can ask for it, uh, he believes like I believe that uh, this violence is uh, part of a few people trying to stop the progress toward democracy. Fallujah, South of Baghdad, these incidents were basically uh, thrust on the innocent Iraqi people by gangs, violent gangs, and our troops are taking care of business.

Their job is to make Iraq more secure so that a peaceful Iraq can emerge and they're doing a great job, there's a tough week last week, and my prayers and thoughts are with those who paid the ultimate price for our security, a free Iraq will make the world more peaceful A free Iraq is gonna change the world, and it's been tough, uh, and our troops are, our troops are uh, performing brilliantly but it's hard to tell

: do you think it's going to add :

I just know this, we're plenty tough, and we'll remain tough, now listen, obviously we're open to suggestions, uh the members of the governing council wanted a chance to move into fallujah to see if they could being some order to the gangs and violence. And as you can tell, our military is giving them a chance to do so. Uh, obviously, I pray every day there's less casualty. But I know what we're doing in Iraq is right - it's right for long term peace, right for the security of our country, and it's hard work. and uh today on hu bended knee I thank the good lord for protecting those of our troops overseas and our coalition troops and innocent Iraqis, who suffer at the hands of uh, of some of these uh, senseless killings by people who are trying to shake out will. Yes sir.

: Mr President, did you see the uh presidential the president;s daily breifing from august 01 :

Did I see it? Of course I saw it, of course I saw it, I asked for it.

: did you see it as a warning of hijackers and how did you respond to that? :

My response was exactly like then as it is today, that I asked the Central Intelligene Agency to give me an update on any terrorist threats and the PDB, uh, was no indication of a terrorist threat
- there was not a time and place of an attack and uh, it was uh, it said Osama Bin Laden had designs on America, well, I knew that. What I wanted to know was, was there anything specifically going to take place in America that we needed to react to. As you might recall there were some specific threats for overseas that we reacted to. And as the president, I was to know whether there was anything, any actionable intelligence. And I looked at the august 6th briefing and I was satisfied that some of the, uh some of the matters were being looked into, uh, and uh, but that PDB said nothing about an attack on America. It talked about intentions about somebody that hated America, we'll we knew that.. yeah, dave

: Thanks for calling on me Mr President, there was in theat PDB specific information anbout activity that may speak to a larger battle plan, even if it wasnt specific, so I I wonder if you can say what specifically was done and do you think your administration should have done anything more :

Now David, look let me just let me just say it again: Had I known that there was going to be an attack on America, I would have moved mountains to stop the attack. I would do everyting I can, my job is to protect the American people, and I asked the intelligence agency to analyze the data to tell me, whether or not we faced a threat internally like we thought we faced aq threat in other parts of the world, that's what the PDB request was, and had there have been actionable intelligence, we'd have moved on it. I'm not exactly wsure what yo're referring to in thye PODB, but if you're referring to te fact that the FBI was investigating things, that's great (laughs) that's what we expect the FBI to do.

:but wasn't that current threat information?> That wasn;t historical, that was on going...:

RIght, and had they found something, they would have reported it to me - that's - we were doing exactly what the American people expect us to do, run down every lead, look at every set of, eh cintella of intelligence and follow up on it, but there was, it, you know I can't say it as plainly as this, Had I known, we'd have acted. Of course we'd have acted, any administration would have acted, the previous administration would have acted, that's our job.

: Are you satisfied though that each agency was doing everything it should have been doing :

Well that's what the 911 commission should look into, and I hope it does. It's uh, it's an important part of the assignment of the 911 commission, and I look forward to their recommendations, a full analysis of what took place. I'm satisfied that I never saw any intelligence that indicated that there was going to be an attack on America, at a time and a place of an attack. Of course we knew that America was hated by Osama Bin Laden (smiling) I mean that's.. that was obvious.. The question was, who was going to attack us, you know when and where and with what. You might recall the hijacking that was referred to in the PODB, it was not hijacking the airplane to fly into a building, it was hijacking of airplanes in order to free someone that was being held uh, ha, as a prisoner in the United States

THankyou

Okj thank you all, Happy Easter to everybody, thank you




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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-11-04 12:34 PM
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27. Congratulations, Georgie--you have just indicted yourself.
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