Bush has 2 choices: Incompetence (or) Dishonesty

[NewYorkerfromMass]

If they (the Bush admin.) didn't know the Niger document was forged- then their intelligence failed (or they didn't know how to interpret it) and they must plead incompetence.
If they did know and lied about it, then they must admit they were dishonest.

It seems obvious they are going to plead incompetence. This would be consistent with the intelligence failure of 9/11. In either case, I don't see how they can survive this politically.

[carolinayellowdog]

1. Survive by controlling the media

If indeed they can continue to do. As long as Americans are constantly told how popular he is and how no one cares about lies and incompetence, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[Philosophy]

2. Terrence J Wilkinson says he knew and didn't care

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_2518.shtml

An intelligence consultant who was present at two White House briefings where the uranium report was discussed confirmed that the President was told the intelligence was questionable and that his national security advisors urged him not to include the claim in his State of the Union address.

"The report had already been discredited," said Terrance J. Wilkinson, a CIA advisor present at two White House briefings. "This point was clearly made when the President was in the room during at least two of the briefings."

Bush's response was anger, Wilkinson said.

"He said that if the current operatives working for the CIA couldn't prove the story was true, then the agency had better find some who could," Wilkinson said. "He said he knew the story was true and so would the world after American troops secured the country."
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I'm not sure why more people aren't hearing about this. Is that Wilkinson guy not still alive?

[opihimoimoi]

3. Is this the smoking gun or NOT??

Damn, this should be on front page of every rag across the world

Not even the best of spinmeisters can handle this one and sleep good at night

Come, we get a lie filter for those guys. Relying on emotion and anger gets despots the can, sooner or later, as Murphy sez so well.

[Swalker24]

4. What about

Incompetence AND Dishonesty. They where too interested into justifying their little war that they didn't do the necessary homework with their 'evidence'.

The blame should not be shifted to the intelligence community. Donald Rumsfeld got a hard-on everytime he talk about having a war, the administration wanted it and they took the easiest possible route to get it. The intellegence community collected all the information to call into question the intel that the bloodthirsty idiots used. The intelligence community did their job. Bush etal, didn't. So I say they where dishonest and incompetent when they built their case, they could have removed the glaring mistakes, but chose not to.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

6. Indeed, the intelligence community did do their job

perhaps they did it on 9/11 as well, and that is why Bush blocks the investigation. Seems all too obvious.

[SeattleDem]

5. same two choices during the Harken "scandal"

he was one of two people on the auditing committee who should have definitly known about Harken's shady accounting and impending doom.

once again, here we have it: he's either incompetent, dishonest, or perhaps most likely, BOTH.

[trof]

8. same 2 choices Nixon had.

Stupid?
or
Crooked?
It actually turned out to be both.
Stupid enough to think he could get away with being crokked.
I hope the same thing happens to *, except I DON'T want him to skip out 2 jumps ahead of the (impeachment) posse.
I want to see him there for the whole satisfying degradement.
If we could bring back the pillory in DC, I'd buy a plane ticket to come and spit on him.

[twilight]

7. * is ...

an INCOMPETENT LIAR! You cannot find anything worse than that!!

Show * the door in '04! I am sick of his LIES!!!!!!!!

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