"Official Guy James Show" thread. Please keep kicked!

[BeachBuckeye]

Gonna have John Dean on today and I hope some of you have some great questions for him that you want answered. As you know this guy is no lightweight so ask accordingly. Call in at 1-888-602-7500-7501-7502-7503-7504 www.theguyjamesshow.com

Its going to be a great show with all thats happened this week. I also want to HIGHLY recommend John's new book. Fascinating read!

Call in and help make today's show one to remember!

Guy

[bvar22]

1. nothing but BAD music so far!

?????

[Gothic Sponge]

2. For some reason i'm not getting the stream

Anyone else having problems?

[nostamj]

4. yup. nothing

says it's 'playing' but not even the music.... damn! with Dean on too...

[Gothic Sponge]

5. I can't even get it to play at all.

:(

[nostamj]

9. got it! n/t

[nostamj]

3. hey, it doesn't start until 3PM EST

and even then, Guy doesn't come until at least 3:05.

relax. mute your speakers....

[mandyky]

6. The news will replace music at 3 PM

then after news the show starts.

[vetwife]

7. Kick !

[vetwife]

11. No problems here !

[revcarol]

8. I saw Dean on C-Span Book Notes this AM.

BAM, did he hit the mark.

I hope he's in good form today!!

[Dudley_DUright]

13. Yes, he basically said that Bush was just the front man for Cheney

Bush is the head of state but Cheney is really the president in terms of policy.

[frank frankly]

10. stream not working here

:shrug:

[Gothic Sponge]

12. I guess i'll have to listen later on White Rose

:cry:

[JohnyCanuck]

14. Windows Media Player stuck on :"buffering"

When I click on the listen live link, Windows Media Player (Ver 7.01) starts up and goes "connecting to media," and then "buffering" but it just stays on "buffering" and nothing comes through. It worked fine for me 2 weeks ago, and I don't remember making any changes since then, anyone have any suggestions?

[Renew Deal]

15. Working for me

[vetwife]

16. John Dean's Book scared me ..This bunch is scary !

[nostamj]

19. i thought i would "listen in the background"

when he was on C-Span today.

i was riveted. hope he gives his explanation of "who's really in charge..." wow! was that daming....

[guajira]

17. It's Working for me on WindowsMedia.com - n/t

[Judi Lynn]

18. Hi, listening to the show today. It should be outstanding. n/t

[guajira]

20. I agree - we Should get the Hell out of Iraq! - N/T

[guajira]

21. But - Would B* give up the OIL???? n/t

[vetwife]

22. The Bush Administration is a threat to the Global Community

This thing in Iraq has put a lot of countires at risk
Especialy OURS !

[mr_pique]

24. Bush Is "Greatest Threat To Life On The Planet"

Livingstone says Bush is 'greatest threat to life on planet' - Ken Livingstone, the Mayor of London, launched a stinging attack on President George Bush - denouncing him as the "greatest threat to life on this planet that we've most probably ever seen". - Mr Livingstone recalled a visit at Easter to California, where he was denounced for an attack he had made on what he called "the most corrupt and racist American administration in over 80 years". - Well, I think what I said then was quite mild. I actually think that Bush is the greatest threat to life on this planet that we've most probably ever seen. The policies he is initiating will doom us to extinction."

[mr_pique]

23. Bush Has Taken 233 Days Vacation

This is Bush's 33rd visit to his ranch since becoming president. He has spent all or part of 233 days on his Texas ranch since taking office, according to a tally by CBS News. Adding his 78 visits to Camp David and his five visits to Kennebunkport, Maine, Bush has spent all or part of 500 days in office at one of his three retreats, or more than 40 percent of his presidency.

Of course Mr Mission Accomplished took the whole month of August 2001
at his ranch so he would not be a target in Washington during the attacks he knew were coming.

[vetwife]

25. How could memo be deemed historic 9-11 hadn't happend yet !

Memo was August 6....Historic devastation came down a mont later

[mr_pique]

41. Site Has Complete 9/11 Timeline With News Reports, 1300+ Items

This site must have the largest and most complete collection of news reports regarding the 9/11 event ever collected. It begins in the 70's.
There are around 1380 items listed 100 to a page with links to the source. About three pages in you get to August 2001.

Timelines:

* Complete 911 Timeline

http://cooperativeresearch.org/topic.jsp?topic=september_11

[mr_pique]

44. August 6, 2001 Daily Briefing Contains At Leat The Following

The logical action would be to shake the FBI and CIA to find the reports of flight schools and other information already collected.
The Bush Regime did nothing, Bush went on vacation.

1. Bin Laden has wanted to conduct attacks inside the US since 1997.

2. "Members of al-Qaeda, including some US citizens, resided in or traveled to the US for years and that the group apparently maintain a support structure" in the US.

3. A discussion of the arrest of Ahmed Ressam (see December 14, 1999) and the 1998 US embassy bombings (see August 7, 1998).

4. Uncorroborated information obtained in 1998 that bin Laden wants to hijack airplanes to gain the release of US-held extremists such as Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman (see July 1990).

5. Information acquired in May 2001 indicating al-Qaeda is planning to infiltrate the US from Canada and attack the US using high explosives (see May 2001 (B)).

6. "FBI judgments about patterns of activity consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks."

7. The number of bin Laden-related investigations underway

[vetwife]

27. I agree Mr._ Pique

[renegade000]

26. re: 911 commission

i believe there was some brief discussion concerning the saudi planes (looking for references now)

[nostamj]

28. Clarke talked about them

said he was told to work on it. he contacted FBI for OK...

orders came from Card or Cheney IIRC

[renegade000]

31. yup found the transcript

nt

[renegade000]

29. transcript (Clarke testimony)

ROEMER: We will certainly be looking to people in future hearings for their recommendations in a host of different areas. So I hope that you might think through this area a little bit more and be available to us.

Mr. Clarke, let me ask you some difficult questions for you to get at the complexity of our relationship with the Saudis.

One the one hand, I think there's a great deal of unanimity that the Saudis were not doing everything they could before 9/11 to help us in a host of different areas; 15 of the 19 hijackers came from there. We had trouble tracking some of the financing for terrorist operations. But we still have too many of the madrassas and the teachings of hatred of Christians and Jews and others coming out of some of these madrassas.

We need to broaden and deepen this relationship. I will ask you a part A and a part B.

Part A is where do we go in this difficult relationship? And part B is to further look at the difficulty here. You made a decision after 9/11 to, I think -- and I'd like to ask you more about this -- to allow a plane of Saudis to fly out of the country. And when most other planes were grounded, this plane flew from the United States back to Saudi Arabia. I'd like to know why you made that decision, who was on this plane, and if the FBI ever had the opportunity to interview those people.

CLARKE: You're absolutely right that the Saudi Arabian government did not cooperate with us significantly in the fight against terrorism prior to 9/11. Indeed, it didn't really cooperate until after bombs blew up in Riyadh.

Now, as to this controversy about the Saudi evacuation aircraft, let me tell you everything I know, which is that in the days following 9/11 -- whether it was on 9/12 or 9/15, I can't tell you -- we were in a constant crisis management meeting that had started the morning of 9/11 and ran for days on end. We were making lots of decisions, but we were coordinating them with all the agencies through the video teleconference procedure.

Someone -- and I wish I could tell you, but I don't know who -- someone brought to that group a proposal that we authorize a request from the Saudi embassy. The Saudi embassy had apparently said that they feared for the lives of Saudi citizens because they thought there would be retribution against Saudis in the United States as it became obvious to Americans that this attack was essentially done by Saudis, and that there were even Saudi citizens in the United States who were part of the bin Laden family, which is a very large family, very large family.

The Saudi embassy therefore asked for these people to be evacuated; the same sort of thing that we do all the time in similar crises, evacuating Americans.

The request came to me and I refused to approve it. I suggested that it be routed to the FBI and that the FBI look at the names of the individuals who were going to be on the passenger manifest and that they approve it -- or not.

I spoke with at that time the number two person in the FBI, Dale Watson, and asked him to deal with this issue.

The FBI then approved -- after some period of time, and I can't tell you how long -- approved the flight.

Now, what degree of review the FBI did of those names, I cannot tell you. How many people there are on the plane, I cannot tell you.

But I have asked since: Were there any individuals on that flight that in retrospect the FBI wishes they could have interviewed in this country. And the answer I've been given is no, that there was no one who left on that flight who the FBI now wants to interview.

ROEMER: Despite the fact that we don't know if Dale Watson interviewed them in the first place.

CLARKE: I don't think they were ever interviewed in this country.

ROEMER: So they were not interviewed here. We have all their names. We don't know if there has been any follow up to interview those people that were here and flown out of the country.

CLARKE: The last time I asked that question, I was informed that the FBI still had no desire to interview any of these people.

ROEMER: Would you have a desire to interview some of these people that...

CLARKE: I don't know who they are.

ROEMER: We don't know who they are...

CLARKE: I don't know who they are. The FBI knew who they were because they... ROEMER: Given your confidence in your statements on the FBI, what's your level of comfort with this?

CLARKE: Well, I will tell you in particular about the ones that get the most attention here in the press, and they are members of the bin Laden family.

I was aware, for some time, that there were members of the bin Laden family living in the United States.

And, let's see, in open session I can say that I was very well aware of the members of the bin Laden family and what they were doing in the United States. And the FBI was extraordinarily well aware of what they were doing in the United States. And I was informed by the FBI that none of the members of the bin Laden family, this large clan, were doing anything in this country that was illegal or that raised their suspicions.

And I believe the FBI had very good information and good sources of information on what the members of the bin Laden family were doing.

ROEMER: I've been very impressed with your memory, sitting through all these interviews the 9/11 commission has conducted with you. I press you, again, to try to recall how this request originated. Who might have passed this on to you at the White House situation room? Or who might have originated that request for the United States government to fly out -- how many people in this plane?

CLARKE: I don't know.

ROEMER: We don't know how many people were on a plane that flew out of this country. Who gave the final approval, then, to say yes, you're clear to go, it's all right with the United States government to go to Saudi Arabia?

CLARKE: I believe, after the FBI came back and said it was all right with them, we ran it through the decision process for all of these decisions we were making in those hours, which was the Interagency Crisis Management Group on the video conference.

I was making or coordinating a lot of decisions on 9/11 and the days immediately after. And I would love to be able to tell you who did it, who brought this proposal to me, but I don't know. Since you pressed me, the two possibilities that are most likely are either the Department of State, or the White House Chief of Staff's Office. But I don't know.

ROEMER: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

KEAN: Senator Gorton?

GORTON: One more question on that subject. When the approvals were finally made and when the flight left, was the flight embargo still in effect? Or was that over; were we flying once again?

CLARKE: No, sir. No, Senator. The reason that a decision was needed was because the flight embargo, the grounding, was still in effect.

(from http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0403/24/bn.00.html)

[Renew Deal]

30. You don't get past Peak Oil, unless you leave oil.

Oil wars won't work.

[mr_pique]

32. Bush Throws First Ball, Fake Applause Covers Boos

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/Columnists.nsf/Deb+Peterson/51671699868BD64286256E6E0011EEAB?OpenDocument&Headline=Bush+picks+fire-red+Cards+jacket+for+flamethrowing+assignment

The president opts for Cardinals red
By Deb Peterson
Published: Tuesday, Apr. 06 2004

(snip)
BACK AT BUSCH: A somewhat hostile crowd complained mightily about
the problems the presidential motorcade caused with regular fans trying to get
into the park. A Cards employee tipped moi that the team was so concerned about
Bush being booed that they piped in fake applause when he strode out to the
mound. Lamping flatly denied it. ... Keen observers noted that Lou
Brock was sporting a new Chia Pet hairstyle, even though when last seen,
he appeared to be balding. In the Cards alumni lineup, Brock, Bob Gibson,
Ozzie Smith, Red Schoendienst and Stan the Man were front and
center. Bush stopped and shook hands with Musial, who tops everybody's all-time
favorite list. ... Bush stood at the mound for barely a moment - talk about a
quick release, the ball seemed to be out of his hands almost as soon as it was
in - when Joe Buck grabbed him for a one-on-one moment. Sitting in
the third row up from the field, mom Carole Buck beamed. Cardinals
team owners Drew Baur, Fred Hanser and Bill DeWitt
appeared in their box about the same time Bush took the field. One onlooker
quipped that the owners had been upstairs writing checks. ... Sitting behind
home plate was Mizzou athletics director Mike Alden with Jack
Donovan, head of Fox Sports Net's local operations. ... An
attention-getting trio of super heroes roamed the stadium.

[vetwife]

33. We won't get another vote if Bush goes back in I am afraid !

We can't take another 4 years

[Dudley_DUright]

36. Amen vetwife

Even though it would be poetic justice to see Bush impeached in a second term, we simply can't afford as a nation another term under these incompetents.

[mr_pique]

37. Looking for reasons to cancel the Nov election

Limbaugh and Hannity have already started floating the idea the election should be canceled if we have a terrorist strike like in Spain. If Bush is behind in the polls they will find a reason.

Will the 2004 Election Be Called Off? Why Three Out of Four Experts Predict a Terrorist Attack by November

by Maureen Farrell
N.Y. Times

On Dec. 31, 2003, New York Times columnist and former Nixon speech writer William Safire offered his standard New Year's predictions. This time, however, one item stood out. In addition to speculating on everything from which country would next "feel the force of U.S. liberation" to who would win the best picture Oscar, Safire predicted that "the 'October surprise' affecting the U.S. election" would be "a major terror attack in the United States."

Sean Hannity twisted things further. "If we are attacked before our election like Spain was, I am not so sure that we should go ahead with the election," he reportedly said. "We had better make plans now because it's going to happen."

And, of course, what usurpation of democracy would be complete without Rush Limbaugh weighing in? "Do bide their time and wait, or do they try to replicate their success in Spain here in America before our election?" Limbaugh asked, before revealing how "titans of industry," and "international business people (who do not outsource, by the way)" were "very, very, very concerned" that one true party forever rule the Fatherland.

[vetwife]

40. Well Franks said it !

Another attack and martial law...so go for it Dude and see what happens if we don't get his bunch out of there

[mr_pique]

53. W.'s Second Term: If you think the first is bad ..

http://www.prospect.org/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=7507

The Last Word
W.'s Second Term: If you think the first is bad ...

By Robert B. Reich
Issue Date: 04.01.04

Musings about a second Bush term typically assume another four years of the same right-wing policies we've had to date. But it'd likely be far worse. So far, the Bush administration has had to govern with the expectation of facing American voters again in 2004. But suppose George W. Bush wins a second term. The constraint of a re-election contest will be gone. Knowing that voters can no longer turn them out, and that this will be their last shot at remaking America, the radical conservatives will be unleashed.

A friend who specializes in foreign policy and hobnobs with subcabinet officials in the Defense and State departments told me that the only thing that's stopped the Bushies from storming into Iran and North Korea is the upcoming election. If Bush is re-elected, " Cheney and Rumsfeld are out of the box," he said. "They'll take Bush's re-election as a mandate to wage the 'war on terror' everywhere and anywhere."

[vetwife]

73. Well said Dudley !

[nostamj]

34. guy! if you're watching the thread.....

on C-Span today, Dean gave a STUNNING answer to the question:

Who's really running the WH?

essentially said the bush is the 'statesman' and he likes that. but he is uninterested in policy so Cheney has a free hand...

[vetwife]

35. Its idealogy

These people have an agenda and we are not part of it

[mr_pique]

39. Messianic Imperialism

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5856.htm

They Can Already Taste blood and They are Ready to Kill... Our America

Becky Burgwin

03/15/04 "OpEdNews.Com" Who are they? Well, here's the short list. John Ashcroft, Tom Delay, Dick Cheney, Rick Santorum, Antonin Scalia, George W. Bush, Pat Robertson, Don Rumsfeld and they taste blood. Why? Because they are just inches away from accomplishing their objective…the take over of our country by their radical, extremist, right wing, Christian agenda. What will they do when they have accomplished that? Take over the world. Think I'm kidding?

[vetwife]

38. I wonder if they want us to stop blinking or what?

They keep pushing the envelope !

[vetwife]

42. The uprising will really hit if the draft comes back !

We don't need more troops..We need out of there !

[vetwife]

43. They are fiddling while Rome is Burning or Iraq in this case

[Renew Deal]

45. Here is something about ARP

http://neworleans.indymedia.org/news/2004/03/1215.php

[Dudley_DUright]

51. Here is more help for Guy's homework assignment

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Alliance_for_Retirement_Prosperity

[mr_pique]

46. http://www.impeachcentral.com

John Bonifaz is an attorney in Boston and the author of Warrior-King: The Case for Impeaching George W. Bush (NationBooks-NY, January 2004).

This nation is at a crossroads. These are not simply issues to be debated in a presidential election. These are "high crimes" in the most profound meaning of the phrase, and they require the most serious of legal responses.

No president in our history has presented a greater threat to our Constitution and our democracy than George W. Bush. If we fail to place the proper charges of high crimes on this president, we invite him to engage in further lawlessness, further illegal war-making, further lies and further unnecessary bloodshed-now, or even more so in a second term. If we fail to protect the Constitution today, we invite its shredding tomorrow by an administration with even less regard for the Constitution than the present one.

Is lying to the United States Congress and the American people about the reasons for sending the nation into war an impeachable offense? Is violating the War Powers Clause of the Constitution by launching a unilateral first-strike invasion of another nation without congressional authorization an impeachable offense? Congress must debate these questions now. Congress may be in Republican hands, but all of its members swore to uphold the Constitution when taking office.

There are two roads in front of us. One takes us toward tyranny behind the mask of wartime necessity. The other returns us to our basic democratic principles where the Constitution is supreme and where no one, not even the president, is above the law.

We call upon Americans of all political persuasions to join the call for impeachment. We ask you to call or write your Member of Congress to urge him or her to introduce articles of impeachment. We also encourage you to sign a petition at http://www.impeachcentral.com to send a letter to the editor of your local newspaper, and to forward this article to all of your friends. Raise your voice now, at this critical moment.

[mr_pique]

50. Impeachable Offenses

last Friday Boston attorney John Bonifaz and progressive
activist Bob Fertik published a fiery essay in TOMPAINE.com - http://tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10176 - Impeachable Offenses. Despite the upcoming presidential election, they: (1) recommended the impeachment of Mr. Bush; (2) made a credible case for the prompt commencement of impeachment hearings; but (3) left unstated their legal basis for impeachment, which is the US Constitution's Article I at Section 2 (see the final clause) and Section 3 (see the final four sentences), and Article II at Section 4.

It's impossible to predict whether the commencement of an impeachment hearing before an election will be productive or counterproductive electorally, yet the seasoned pundits are increasingly sensing that the time has finally arrived for the American people to "let the chips fall where they may" by exercising their constitutional duty to preserve democratic governance under the rule of law, and to do so by imposing their sovereign will on an ostrichlike US Congress; therefore, please boldly affix your "John Hancock" to this "Petition To Impeach President Bush & Vice President Cheney" -- http://www.impeachcentral.com/elandslide/petition.cfm?campaign==impeach -- if
you still want to live inside a sweet land of liberty!

[nostamj]

47. here's the Bill Bennett on radio info!

Bill Bennett Radio Show ``Morning in America'' Launches Today on 66 Stations Across Country; First Day Guests Include Rush Limbaugh, Donald Rumsfeld, and Mario Cuomo
E-mail or Print this story

5 April 2004, 07:00am ET

WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 5, 2004--Salem Communications Corporation (Nasdaq:SALM), the leading radio broadcaster focused on religious and family themes programming, announced that former Secretary of Education William J. Bennett launches his national talk radio show "Morning in America" on 66 radio stations across the country today.

The guest list for the first show includes: Rush Limbaugh, Donald Rumsfeld, Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher, Former New York Governor Mario Cuomo, Pat Sajak, former Clinton attorney and D.C. lawyer Bob Bennett, Tim Russert, Naomi Judd and author/commentator George Will.

"We are delivering a fast-paced, eye opening national morning show with news, headline-making guests from the worlds of politics, media, sports and entertainment, and we'll open up a dialogue with listeners from coast-to-coast every morning," said Bennett.

The show broadcasts live from Washington, D.C. every weekday from 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. (Eastern) via Salem Radio Network (SRN), which already features such nationally known talk hosts as Mike Gallagher, Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, and Hugh Hewitt. SRN is a division of Salem Communications Corporation.

[mr_pique]

48. No Thanks, I Have A Daddy

Big Daddy Bill Bennett ain't my daddy, and man am I glad.

[vetwife]

49. What about Bush's You talking to me ...thing at his pressconference ?

You talking to me ! What arrogance ! Media = cowards

[mr_pique]

52. I'm the commander - see, I don't need to explain

"I'm the commander - see, I don't need to explain - I don't need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the President. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation."
- - George W. Bush (Washington Post, 11-19-02)

[BeachBuckeye]

54. call with your questions for John Dean

He's a great interview.

[revcarol]

55. I have a question for John Dean:

Is COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT A WAR CRIME? What we are doing in Fallujah, letting women, children under 11 and old men go, and then strafing the city with gunships. IS THIS COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT AND IS THIS A WAR CRIME?

[Judi Lynn]

56. John Dean is WONDERFUL. n/t

[mr_pique]

57. Worse Than Watergate - Dean Says Bush Should Be Impeached

Worse Than Watergate: Former Nixon Counsel John Dean Says Bush Should Be Impeached

Tuesday, April 6th, 2004
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/06/1354218

Richard Nixon's former counsel John Dean joins us in our firehouse studios to discuss his new book "Worse Than Watergate: The Secret Presidency of George W. Bush" in which he charges that the crimes of President Bush are worse than his previous boss and are grounds for impeachment. Dean served prison time for his role in the Watergate scandal in the early 70s.

The White House attempted to cover-up the burglary. Among those found guilty was Richard Nixon's chief counsel John W. Dean.

G. Gordon Liddy, the former FBI agent who masterminded the Watergate burglary on behalf of Nixon, once said that he would like to kill John Dean by shoving a pencil through his neck.

Why? Because Dean is the one who dared tell Nixon in 1973 that the web of lies surrounding the Watergate scandal had formed "a cancer on the presidency." When Dean went public about that conversation, the Nixon White House smeared him as a liar. Fortunately, the conversation had been taped, and Dean was vindicated.

Dean agreed to testify to Congress that Nixon was guilty of covering up Watergate, even though he was certain to condemn himself to prison. Dean was later charged with obstruction of justice and would eventually serve 127 days for taking part in the cover-up.

[Dudley_DUright]

58. Guy asked "Do you think Cheney is in charge"

Dean: Bush is not stupid, but he is ignorant. Bush is head of state and front man and Cheney is head of government. Cheney leads Bush to think he is making the decisions, but he is really not.

[Armstead]

59. IS IT ME?

Suiddenly in the middle of the John Dean Interview the streamn is breaking up really bad.

Anyone else having this problem?

[Judi Lynn]

60. Not yet. n/t

[Dudley_DUright]

61. John Dean said on his C-SPAN2 booknotes talk

that he was doing about 15 radio interviews a day, so he definitely is getting the word out for his book.

[vetwife]

62. John Dean was great !

I really wonder if the Media is part of the hidden agenda.

[mr_pique]

63. Bush Knew! So Where Was The Air Force?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=127&e=1&u=/uclicktext/20040331/cm_ucru/wherewastheairforce

WHERE WAS THE AIR FORCE?
The Real Question on 9-11

The really big unanswered question of September 11, 2001 is this: Once it became obvious that at least four passenger jets had been hijacked--at one point that Tuesday morning, Clarke says the FAA thought it had as many as "eleven aircraft off course or out of communications"--why didn't our government intercept them? (And why
didn't Bush use plans already in place for kamikaze terrorism?)

Fifteen minutes after taking off from Boston at 7:58 am, American Airlines flight attendant Madeline Sweeney telephoned a flight services manager back at Logan airport to report that two of her colleagues had been stabbed and a passenger had had his throat cut by Middle Eastern men. "This flight has been hijacked," she concluded, maintaining her professional composure as Los Angeles-bound Flight 11 veered south toward Manhattan. Meanwhile, up in the cockpit, the pilot was frantically clicking his transmission button to tell air traffic controllers what was happening.

They figured it out at 8:13 am. The drama would end nearly two hours later with the crash in Pennsylvania. There was ample time for the airline to notify federal authorities and for the latter to order the Air Force to begin intercepting unresponsive or off-course planes--but slow-witted bureaucrats and years of doing domestic defense on the cheap whittled away precious minutes.

[mr_pique]

64. Kamikaze Terrorism Wasn't a New Idea

Scot Paltrow is the terrific reporter who writes for that left wing rag, the Wall Street Journal. You may recall he had a hard hitting piece last Monday, Government Accounts of 9/11 Reveal Gaps, Inconsistencies.

He puts the nail in the coffin of Condi Rice's claims that terrorist use of commercial aircraft was unforeseeable:

"In the aftermath of those attacks, Bush administration officials have said they received no intelligence warning of such a tactic. "I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile," National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice said in a May 2002 news briefing.

Yet on several occasions starting in the mid-1990s, U.S. intelligence agencies had passed on information concerning such a possibility, including early plans by al Qaeda officials to use passenger jets as kamikaze weapons, according to records and current and former government officials."

[mr_pique]

65. Kamikaze Terrorism Wasn't a New Idea (continued 2)

Paltrow includes a listing of the many warnings the White House received:

He begins with the strategy Richard Clarke worked on (and discusses in his book) to prevent Kamikaze Aircraft from being used at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics; These were applied to several other situations:

As a consequence, a strategy for protecting airspace over special events was drawn up by the National Security Council staff for the Atlanta Olympics in 1996, in response to concerns about possible Iranian-backed terrorism. It included closing airspace over events to civilian air traffic, placing armed Air National Guard fighter jets on alert at a nearby base and launching on patrol a small air force belonging to the U.S. Customs Service, including jets, Black Hawk helicopters and a special radar-equipped plane. The customs service had the aircraft to interdict drug smuggling.

The article also notes the plan was also used for:

· Mr. Clinton's second inauguration in 1997
· North Atlantic Treaty Organization's 50th anniversary celebration in Washington in 1999
· Republican and Democratic conventions in 2000.
· Bush inauguration in 2001

[mr_pique]

68. "Suicide bombers hijacked by al Qaeda could crash-land an aircraft.."

"The plan's use for designated "National Security Special Events" was made official in a classified portion of a "presidential decision directive" that Mr. Clinton signed in 1998. Use of the plan at these events wasn't publicized, and officials were forbidden to talk about it."

Before Sept. 11, the Bush administration was involved in planning airspace protection that was provided for the 2002 winter Olympics in Utah.

The possibility of terrorists using hijacked jets against major U.S. buildings had been raised in a public federal-government report in 1999 on terrorist threats facing the U.S. Prepared by the federal-research division of the Library of Congress, it warned: "Suicide bomber(s) belonging to al Qaeda's Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency, or the White House." The report, referring to an al Qaeda leader captured in 1995, added that "Ramzi Yousef had planned to do this against the CIA headquarters." Bush administration officials have said publicly that they weren't aware of the report before Sept. 11.

Kamikaze Terrorism Wasn't a New Idea
White House Statements Aside, Protective Steps Date Back Through Clinton Administration
SCOT J. PALTROW
Wall Street Journal, April 1, 2004; Page A4
http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB108077920066470982,00.html

[vetwife]

66. She is so right about Sibel Edmunds

They covered it up with more non news !

[vetwife]

67. Is worse now though......This is heading 3rd World !

What is up..Just throw away the constituion. Is that
he Hidden Agenda?

[vetwife]

69. Where are the wingers?

[mr_pique]

70. Two Important Condi Rice Lies

First and foremost, Rice continues to make the now-discredited claim that
the White House did not have intelligence warning them that terrorists were
plotting to use airplanes as missiles in an attack on America. In 2002 she
said, "I don't think anybody could have predicted that ... they would try to
use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile". She
said this in spite of the intelligence community having issued 12 separate
warnings of such a plan, including a 1999 warning saying that "suicide
bomber(s) belonging to al Qaeda's Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land an
aircraft...into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the Central Intelligence
Agency (CIA), or the White House". When presented with these facts, she
told the 9/11 Commission in January 2004 that she misspoke and that she
"regretted" her earlier denials. Yet less than four months after her
apology, she made the same false claim, writing in a March 22, 2004 op-ed in
the Washington Post that "we received no intelligence that terrorists were
preparing to attack the homeland using airplanes as missiles".

Secondly, Rice is now saying through spokesmen that she was "not briefed"
about terrorists' plans to use airplanes as missiles before 2002, when she
began making the false claim that she had no such warnings. But even if
Rice did neglect all 12 previous intelligence reports, she cannot claim she
was never briefed about such a threat, considering she was the top national
security official accompanying President Bush to the G-8 Summit in Genoa,
Italy in July 2001. There, she and the president were explicitly warned that
"Islamic terrorists might attempt to kill world leaders by crashing an
airliner" into the summit.

[vetwife]

71. I think it is a mental thing ...Something is really wrong !

Nobody owns the Flag, God or the Country !
They think on the right..that they do !

[mr_pique]

72. N Korea says standoff with US at "brink of nuclear war"

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1530&e=1&u=/afp/nkorea_nuclear_brink

North Korea says standoff with US at "brink of nuclear war"

SEOUL (AFP) - North Korea (news - web sites) said Friday the standoff over its atomic ambitions was on the brink of nuclear war as US Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) headed to the region for talks with key Asian allies.

"It is a well-known fact that the second round of the six-way talks held in Beijing last February proved fruitless due to the US demand that the DPRK dismantle its nuclear program first."

[mr_pique]

74. Ronnie Raygun's Freedom Fighters

http://www.fpif.org/commentary/0109mandela.html

Bin Laden and Mandela: Yesterday's Freedom Fighters, Today's Terrorist?
By William G. Martin

In 1985 a group of bearded men met with Ronald Reagan in the White House.
These turbaned men were, Reagan stated, "the moral equivalent of America's
founding fathers." These were the Afghan mujahedin, for whom Osma bin Laden
worked and was undoubtedly funded, directly or indirectly, by the CIA. At
the same time Nelson Mandela sat in prison in Robben Island. Mandela,
according to the official watch list of the Pentagon, was a terrorist, the
head of a terrorist organization attacking the anticommunist apartheid
regime.

[vetwife]

75. Talking heads say Ashcroft has temper..may be nasty

Next week, when Ashcroft testified, it could not be such cool answers on the 911 commission.
Is this going to be a Warren Commission?

[vetwife]

76. You are doing very good Guy !

Sound Great !

[vetwife]

77. June 30th Deadline...Uh anyone catch how close to the 4th that is

[Judi Lynn]

78. Good luck to Nostamj on the project underway. Hope it all comes together

very well for you.

Great call from the New York Bureau.

Congrats on call from Amanda, just before Nostamj.

Is Kathy in Denver a DU'er?

Also, loved the local calls from George(?) and Martha in Florida today. They are terrific.

NO CALLS FROM BUTTHEADS YET. Butthead free radio for two hours!

[nostamj]

79. thanks!

i have an AMAZING cast and director/musical director.

they are ALL totally into the project (and despise * - which makes for a very positive work environment.

sample:

To the tune of “SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUS”

CONVOLUTED SYNTAX AND A MANGLING OF THE GRAMMAR
EVERY TIME YOU HEAR HIM SPEAK
YOU WANT TO GRAB A HAMMER
BUT IF YOU DARE TO PROTEST
YOU'LL END UP IN THE SLAMMER
CONVOLUTED SYNTAX AND A MANGLING OF THE GRAMMAR

UM TERRA TERRA TERRA UM SMOKE ‘EM OUT
UM TERRA TERRA TERRA UM SMOKE ‘EM OUT

OUR GEORGIE IS NO ORATOR
AS YOU CAN PLAINLY SEE
AND READING OFF A MONITOR
HE DOES JUST AWFULLY
IT’S THE SAME SPEECH HE SPEECHED BEFORE
BUT STILL CAN’T GET IT RIGHT
I GET ANNOYED AT THIS DULL BORE
AND I CAN’T BE POLITE:

IT’S CONVOLUTED SYNTAX AND A MANGLING OF THE GRAMMAR
EVERY TIME YOU HEAR HIM SPEAK
YOU WANT TO GRAB A HAMMER
BUT IF YOU DARE TO PROTEST
YOU'LL END UP IN THE SLAMMER
CONVOLUTED SYNTAX AND A MANGLING OF THE GRAMMAR
(Whisper:)
CONVOLUTED SYNTAX AND A MANGLING OF THE GRAMMAR
(Full:)
CONVOLUTED SYNTAX AND A MANGLING OF THE GRAMMAR!

[Judi Lynn]

89. That should work out so well. Very catchy, and true, too!

Thanks for the peek at the show.

It would be terrific to play it through loudspeakers for the Republicans as they come and go to the convention!

[nostamj]

92. actually....

my musical director wants to bring the entire company down and do the numbers LIVE...

i said i didn't think we'd get within 10 blocks!

(I'm going to be working HARD to get Al Franken, Randi Rhodes and other Air America talent into the show...

[Judi Lynn]

93. Please keep us informed at every step. Sounds WONDERFUL. n/t

[nostamj]

98. oh, DU will know...

i've got contributions from mopaul (poster graphic) Plaid Adder and "Bob Boudelang" in the project.

and, hopefully, videos from thebigidea, prolesunited and the TBTM guys too.

[mr_pique]

80. PNAC Letter To Bush 9/20/ 2001

Only by allowing 9/11 to happen could PNAC hope to sell the American
people on the criminal invasion of Iraq. The intended perpetual occupation is the easy part, not even Democrats are talking about
pulling out, ever.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Bushletter.htm

The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
Washington, DC

September 20, 2001

Dear Mr. President,

We write to endorse your admirable commitment to "lead the world to victory" in the war against terrorism. We fully support your call for "a broad and sustained campaign" against the "terrorist organizations and those who harbor and support them." We agree with Secretary of State Powell that the United States must find and punish the perpetrators of the horrific attack of September 11, and we must, as he said, "go after terrorism wherever we find it in the world" and "get it by its branch and root." We agree with the Secretary of State that U.S. policy must aim not only at finding the people responsible for this incident, but must also target those "other groups out there that mean us no good" and "that have conducted attacks previously against U.S. personnel, U.S. interests and our allies."

In order to carry out this "first war of the 21st century" successfully, and in order, as you have said, to do future "generations a favor by coming together and whipping terrorism," we believe the following steps are necessary parts of a comprehensive strategy.

[Catshrink]

81. Here we go....

hang up on the idiot, Guy!

[vetwife]

82. Ask him what the exit strategy is ?

NOT ONE !

[Renew Deal]

83. Kosovo went better

[mr_pique]

84. US commander wants more troops for Iraq

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040410/wl_mideast_afp/us_iraq_troops_040410110613

US commander wants more troops for Iraq
Sat Apr 10, 7:06 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The top commander in the Persian Gulf has decided he needs more troops in Iraq (news - web sites) but is determined to find them among forces already deployed in his region of operation, The Washington Times reported Saturday.

Citing unnamed senior defense officials, The Washington Times said General John Abizaid, head of the US Central Command, would likely rely on troops that would have left Iraq in May and from forces stationed in Kuwait.

He would not pull significant numbers of troops from Europe or the United States, the report said Saturday.

[vetwife]

85. All collateral damage...Liberation !

What a Nut !

[Renew Deal]

86. Kill 'em all

Was a great album

[mr_pique]

87. Mercenaries are a WAR CRIME under Geneva Convention

use of mercenaries is a War Crime.

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/sheppard.htm

Mercenaries are outlawed under Article 47 of the Geneva Convention. In December 1994 the United Nations General Assembly adopted Resolution 49/1150 urging all nations 'to take the necessary steps and to exercise the utmost vigilance against the menace posed by the activities of mercenaries'. The UN International Convention Against the Recruitment, Use, Financing and Training of Mercenaries has been signed or ratified by twenty-one countries.

Yet the opportunities for mercenary contracts are now at a level unprecedented in modern times. In the uncertain political environment of the post-Cold War world in which countless military specialists have been released onto the free market, the professional soldier of fortune has again become a key player in the business of death. The modern condottieri are not the lawless guns for hire who turned the Congo into a free for-all thirty-five years ago. Men like Mike Hoare, Jacques Schramme, and Bob Denard have been phased out in favour of new corporate identities which are, in effect, the logical extension of a borderless global business environment.

[vetwife]

88. Remember the Media underline scroll wanting mercernaries for hire

Right after 9-11...The scoll line said...Unsavory characthers needed !
I will never forget that WANT AD from the government !

[Renew Deal]

90. The Draft should start with the Young Repukes

Maybe that guys kids.

[vetwife]

91. Wonder if the US would let the UN Inspectors in here !

[mr_pique]

94. August 6, Daily Briefing Included Al Qaeda Threat Details

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040410/us_nm/security_bush_dc_6

Bush Memo Included Al Qaeda Threat Details
Sat Apr 10,12:08 AM ET

By Steve Holland

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - President Bush (news - web sites)'s Aug. 6, 2001, daily intelligence briefing included information from three months beforehand that al Qaeda members were trying to enter the United States for an attack with explosives, sources familiar with the document said on Friday.

"This is what the August 6 memo said to the president -- that the FBI (news - web sites) indicates patterns of suspicious activity, and I'd say it's consistent with preparations for hijacking," Kerrey said.

The sources familiar with the document said it advised Bush that at least 70 terrorism-related investigations were under way by the FBI in 2001.

[mr_pique]

96. bin Laden might be planning to hijack commercial airliners

the entire memo focuses on the possibility of terrorist attacks inside the US. The contents have never been made public. However, according to the 9/11 Congressional inquiry (they call it "a closely held intelligence report for senior government officials" presented in early August 2001), the memo includes at least the following information:

1. Bin Laden has wanted to conduct attacks inside the US since 1997.

2. "Members of al-Qaeda, including some US citizens, resided in or traveled to the US for years and that the group apparently maintain a support structure" in the US.

3. A discussion of the arrest of Ahmed Ressam (see December 14, 1999) and the 1998 US embassy bombings (see August 7, 1998).

4. Uncorroborated information obtained in 1998 that bin Laden wants to hijack airplanes to gain the release of US-held extremists such as Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman (see July 1990).

5. Information acquired in May 2001 indicating al-Qaeda is planning to infiltrate the US from Canada and attack the US using high explosives (see May 2001 (B)).

6. "FBI judgments about patterns of activity consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks."

7. The number of bin Laden-related investigations underway

[vetwife]

95. What about Bush looking for something to do? lol

Didn't make Boss look to good, in a meeting. Walking around looking for something to do.

[vetwife]

97. As a Georgia Gal sure appreciate Clinton protecting Olympics

He had that much insight !

[vetwife]

99. That guy said Kill em all !

[vetwife]

101. LOL LOL LOL

Didn't he say he was the same guy !

[Renew Deal]

103. I heard that.

[vetwife]

104. That fellow better get back on his meds and SOON !

[nostamj]

105. sadly,

he tithed them to rush....

[vetwife]

107. Oh that is too funny !

I talk to vets all day ! He was not a combat vet. I'd wager that !
Mercenary maybe......!

[vetwife]

108. His meds were outsourced to Rush..lol

[vetwife]

109. Good show.....Guy

Not much faith at all ..Warren Commission II

[Renew Deal]

100. lol, You stupid jackass

[mr_pique]

102. Aug 6 Briefing Will Be Released, told Bush al Qaeda to attack with explosi

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040410/us_nm/security_bush_dc&e=1&ncid=

White House to Release Aug. 6, 2001, Document

CRAWFORD, Texas (Reuters) - The White House planned to release on Saturday an Aug. 6, 2001, intelligence briefing for President Bush (news - web sites) that outlined al Qaeda plans to strike within the United States, a senior Bush administration official said.

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the page-and-a-half document would be released shortly. Its release had been demanded by members of the commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the United States.

The document, entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United States," told Bush of plans by al Qaeda to attack the United States with explosives or hijack airplanes.

[onecitizen]

106. My ears! My ears!

I had my headphones on when you blasted that asshole Guy!! But I'm glad you did!! hehehehe

[Judi Lynn]

110. Yay, great show, so well worth our time and caring.

Thanks to Guy James for advancing the cause so well.

[vetwife]

112. Aboslutely Great.....You can wind down now Guy !

See ya next week if we are not all blown away !
Courtesy of the Bush Administration since we got an example of the Kill them all Mentality !

[LWolf]

111. Agghh!

I missed it again! I'll head on over to the archives after a bit and give it a listen.

[AspenRose]

113. Kick

:kick:

[benburch]

114. Archive posted now.

If you missed the show, you can now download the archive at http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org/