If Max Cleland (war hero) was not replaced by Bob Kerrey (PNAC DINO)..

[TruthIsAll]

on the 9/11 Commission, we would not be hearing the lies that Clinton did not respond as effectively as he should have, especially after the Cole bombing. There would be a different tone to the hearings, which is being spun like a whirling dervish and whitewashed right before our eyes.

Clinton had no intelligence confirmation that Bin Laden was responsible for the Cole. In any case, the Repukes would have accusd him of Wagging the Dog. Just like they did in 1998. Remember Trent Lott. Remember Orrin Hatch.

Bush knew what he was doing when he got Cleland out and Kerrey in. He has sabotaged the 9/11 Commission from Day One.

And the DINOs let him get away with it.

Will Condi be charged for perjury?
Will Bush testify alone, without Cheney at his side?
Will Bush testify under oath?
Will a non-redacted Aug. 6 PBD be released?
Will Clinton's papers be released?
Did Bush do a damn thing to prevent the attacks?
No.No.No.No.No.No.No.

Are the Dems going to let him get away with it? Of course.

BTW, read "House of Saud. House of Bush". This is THE book.

[sangha]

1. You are probably wrong on at least two counts

The PDB and Clinton's papers will probably be released

[TruthIsAll]

3. Yes. Partially. And Redacted. That is NOT a release to me.

TIA.

[sangha]

12. Thanks for the clarification

.

[Dookus]

2. Ya know...

why don't we wait for the commission to finish before we condemn it all as a whitewash? We have NO idea what will be in the report.

[TruthIsAll]

4. It has been a whitewash from Day One. Expect a "limited hangout".

Bush AND Clinton will be mildly rebuked.

Condi will not be called for perjury.

It should be obvious by now that the full truth will never be told by this commission.

[Dookus]

5. nothing is obvious

because haven't seen the report. They haven't even written it yet.

The POTENTIAL for what you say is there, but it's silly to draw that conclusion now.

[DenverDem]

6. What is obvious is that the commission is dominated by bushler insiders

and CFR members.

It is hardly silly to think that these people will protect their Power Elite overlords.

What is silly is to be so naive as to think that the truth of the 9/11 black intelligence operation against America would be told by these elthically compromised commissioners.

[Leilani]

7. The Democrats choose their own Commission members

And I'm reasonably sure it was Tom Dashle, who appointed Kerrey.

[Leilani]

8. As for the war hero reference:

Bob Kerrey was a Navy Seal during Vietnam, & lost his leg, due to combat.

Referencing Cleland as a war hero, being replaced by Kerrey, is misleading, due to the fact that they are BOTH war heroes.

[TruthIsAll]

9. Kerrey is not a war hero. He killed women and children in Vietnam.

He did not reveal this until after he left the Senate. Those were war crimes. Just like My Lai.

[ShaneGR]

10. LOL, Bob Kerrey is a DINO??? HAHAAHAHAHA!

Yeah, he looked like a DINO when he was ripping Condi a new one.

Does just a little bit of moderation from your ideological purity make someone a DINO?

[TruthIsAll]

11. Bob Kerrey is a PNACer. Google Kerrey PNAC.

TIA

[bigtree]

13. Kerry was on the pre-911, Committee for the Liberation of Iraq

PR Spinning the Bush Doctrine
by KURT NIMMO

http://www.counterpunch.org/nimmo1119.html

The Committee for the Liberation of Iraq bills itself as an NGO comprised of a "distinguished group of Americans" who want to bomb Saddam Hussein out of existence. Of course, NGO is a misnomer for this particular organization because its advisory board is stacked with former government types, including George Shultz. The president of the Committee is Randy Scheunemann, Trent Lott's former chief national-security adviser. Last year Scheunemann worked for Donald Rumsfeld as a consultant on Iraq policy. The Committee chairman is Bruce P. Jackson, the former vice president of the mega-defense contractor Lockheed Martin. Jackson chaired the Republican Party Platform's subcommittee for National Security and Foreign Policy when Bush ran for president in 2000. Jackson was also big on expanding the role of NATO -- think of all the new weapons that will be required -- and headed up a campaign to get Congress to ratify NATO's eastward expansion. Other NGO types include former Senator Bob Kerrey and former "Drug Czar" Barry McCaffrey. You may remember McCaffrey. As a two-star general and Gulf War "hero," McCaffrey ordered the massacre of hundreds of retreating soldiers and civilians on the Basra road from Kuwait to southern Iraq.

On November 15 US Newswire released a Committee press release. "The Committee was formed to promote regional peace, political freedom and international security through replacement of the Saddam Hussein regime with a democratic government that respects the rights of the Iraqi people and ceases to threaten the community of nations."

The Committee press release, however, mentions absolutely nothing about how these objectives will be achieved. But then, considering who is involved with the Committee, we don't need much of an explanation -- in essence, the Committee is a PR front for the Bush attack Iraq policy currently under way full steam ahead. The Committee is little more than an extension of the Project for a New American Century (PNAC), an "educational" organization packed with neocons such as William Kristol and Robert Kagan. PNAC, according to its web page, is "dedicated to a few fundamental propositions: that American leadership is good both for America and for the world; that such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle." In other words, Pax Americana installed unilaterally by way of bunker-buster and cluster bomb diplomacy. Lest you think PNAC and the Committee are not joined at the hip, consider who agreed to be an officer of this new (non) NGO -- Gary Schmitt, PNAC's executive director.

The devil is in the details. One such detail concerns retired four star General Wayne Downing, an erstwhile lobbyist for the Iraqi National Congress (INC), the CIA bankrolled "opposition" to Saddam Hussein. It is estimated the CIA forked out between $60 and $70 million to get the INC rolling back in the early 90s. Another detail is Ahmed Chalabi, head of the INC and a former businessman and son of a wealthy banking family who has not stepped foot inside Iraqi since 1956. In 1992, according to the BBC, Chalabi was sentenced in absentia by a Jordanian court to 22 years in prison with hard labor for bank fraud after the 1990 collapse of Petra Bank, which he had founded in 1977. Regardless of Chalabi's questionable, Enronesque character -- as well, the State Department has accused the INC of profligate spending habits and accounting irregularities -- Scheunemann, while working for Lott in 1998, drafted the "Iraq Liberation Act" authorizing 98 million dollars for the INC. Clinton never got around to spending the money and the Pentagon has since taken control of it to train the INC. We can only imagine the sort of training the Pentagon is offering.


More about PNAC, Iraq, Chalabi and the rest, in my book: Power Of Mischief: http://www.returningsoldiers.us/pompage.htm

Download the book for free!
http://www.returningsoldiers.us/Power%20Of%20Mischief4.pdf

Here's my list of numbered, linked references for the book (253 links):
http://returningsoldiers.us/biblio.htm

[acmavm]

14. Moved from the other thread: I almost posted a thread about Bob Kerrey

But I gave it a second thought and decided not to. Thank you TruthIsAll for giving me a second chance. I cleaned up my original response a bit to make it more coherent since this is a subject that REALLY PISSES ME OFF.

Living in Nebraska I have had to hear for years how Kerrey was this magic man who someday would be nominated for President of the United States. Until, that is, he had to fess up to some of the dispicable things he did while he was in Viet Nam. (NOW ALL YOU VIET NAM VETS, DON'T GET ALL WORKED UP. I REALIZE THAT BEING IN A WAR ZONE MAKES PEOPLE DO THINGS THAT THEY WOULDN'T ORDINARILY DO.) But Kerrey kept his past hidden and only fessed up when the news started to leak and he was going to get busted. That was when he was Senator Kerrey. Kerrey then decided that he would get out of politics and persue other interests. Kerrey is big business all the way, preserve the status quo and all that. Why else do you think he was allowed to serve on the panel supposedly 'investigating' the events surrounding 9/11. They didn't put anyone on that panel who would fight for the facts coming out, it wasn't in their best interest. These people have to preserve the facade of 'our country, right or wrong'. Anything else is considered unpatriotic.

No one was put on this panel who had the intention of truly exposing this administration for what it really is. A bunch of bigoted, greedy thugs who are absolutely out of control. And no one on this panel has the intention of exposing why we went into Iraq. Face it, the United States is fueled by oil, and bush* & co. are oil families. It wasn't ever anything about protecting US interests or retaliation for the events of September 11th, it was always about promoting their own personal interests and their warped views of US domination around the globe. Do you really think these people are going to allow the world to know that our government has been hijacked by a bunch of facists? If so, it is time to get real. The only reason that we've gotten this far is because the 911 widows have pushed this issue. And people like us who have known all along that this administration is packed with clowns who normally would be perceived as criminals. And I don't use the term lightly. What else would you call a bunch of thugs who lied and country into war, bombed innocent civilians, gave government contracts to their friends and business associates not caring whether or not we got what we paid for, sending troops into a war zone WITHOUT ENOUGHT AMMUNITION TO DEFEND THEMSELVES? People who tell you that the went into Iraq to give them liberty and freedom but intend to install military bases and the largest foreign embassy in that country. How many military bases is it, fourteen or something like that? And what about Article 59 in the new Iraqi constitution (I think that's where it stated) that the US military would be 'invited' to remain after the handover of power to the Iraqi governing council.

Please understand that it will be grassroots movements that expose the bush* administration for what it really is. And independent newspeople who aren't afraid that the corporations that own the companies they work for will kick their asses and put them in the umemployment line if they even hint at the truth of what's going on in this country. Because the mainstream corporate media sure ain't gonna do the right thing and tell the truth. And the people on the 911 commission have no intention of asking the right questions.