May 17, 2002, Pacifica Radio reported that Rice was the source of the call

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David Irving comments:

ACCORDING to a report today Friday, May 17, 2002, on Pacifica Radio, the warning to San Francisco's mayor came from squeaky-clean Condoleezza Rice.


On May 17, 2002, Pacifica Radio reported that Rice was the source of the call to Brown.

See side bar: http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Bush_knew2.html

So in case you missed it:

THE ASSISTANT TO THE PRESIDENT FOR NATIONAL SECURITY AFFAIRS CONDOLEEZZA RICE CALLED A FRIEND THE DAY BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11TH AND TOLD HIM TO STAY OUT OF THE AIR THAT WEEK

Got that?

[Corgigal]

1. Time for the 9-11

commission to call in Willy Brown. Someone tells the Jersey Girls about this tidbit. Then we get to arrest our Condi.

[ramblin_dave]

2. Bob Kerrey was asked about this

and the Ashcroft flying commercial story on the Al Franken show last week. Kerrey said there was nothing to either of these stories. Someone needs to go back to the original sources and get the truth.

[Neecy]

3. Not surprising

I'm sure she knew Brown while she was at Stanford.

WHY didn't a member of the 9/11 Commission ask her point-blank if she was the source of the warning to Brown? I saw the 9/11 widows on Matthews question the warning to Brown right after she testified - if this commission isn't a total whitewash, why wasn't this asked? It shows complete knowledge beforehand - how could something so key go completely unasked?

[BGrier]

4. Bob Kerrey

See the other recent thread about Ashcroft being warned off the civilian airliners. I posted there that Bob Kerrey was asked about that on Al Franken's first show and basically dismissed it as an unfounded allegation. From the same questioner, he was asked about the Brown warning call. Kerrey also dismissed that with a "there is no evidence" comment. Disturbing.

At least call in Brown and ask him why he said this. If he was lying to the press, he needs to explain why. If he was telling the truth but it really wasn't Condaleeza Rice, he needs to explain who.

[LittleApple81]

5. Anybody besides me listening to the Majority Report in AirAmerica last

night? They listed all the conflicts of interest for the members of the commission. ALL OF THEM ARE COMPROMISED (except for Benveniste's (sp?) whose name I did not hear mentioned in the program). The commission has asked questions because the Jersey Girls don't let go, not because they really want to do this. It seems to me they might try to keep things "mellow" for the BFEE.

[Union Thug]

6. Nothing to it?

What does that mean? I mean, it's not like a tidbit taken from a conspiracy website. Here's an article on it from our respected CBS news:

"In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term. "

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml

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8. Simple matter of fact

Did he or did he not start flying private jets? yes or no.

It's that simple.

The fact alone is enough to convince me.

[nodictators]

16. How could Bob Kerrey say there's no evidence?

Ashcroft was tooling around in business jets, usually a Gulfstream III. He said it was because of a security warning. Remember, on Sept. 11, Ashcroft was airborne in a US government Citation jet, headed for Milwaukee. They were supposedly over Detroit when they learned of the attacks.

Willie Brown, himself, said he was warned, but he didn't identify the caller, except to suggest that it was someone from the airline.

Condi was at Stanford earlier in her career. It's quite possible that she knew Willie Brown personally.

Then there is that deal at Offut (sp?) AFB. Supposedly, a group of top business execs, including Warren Buffet, were there for some kind of charitable event. On 9/11, Bush, keeping "out of harm's way," showed up a Offut, after leaving Barksdale AFB.

I'll bet lots of fat cats and CEOs were called and warned.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

7. Not saying it didn't happen,

but can anyone find a better souce (ie Pacifica radio direct) than David Irving? I did a quick google & all I could find ended up refererring back to his site & personally I don't trust a single word he says.

[Must_B_Free]

11. The point is they need to be questioned

Who reported what means little.

I did a query on jani men who live on sunlight and don't eat. It is easy to find deceptive stories picked up byreputable media sources, so all that conjecture is irrelevant.

We need to ask Ashcroft and Brown why they changed their flight plans.

There must be documents related to the funding of his flights that should detail a justification for the funding of these flights.

For Brown there may be a cancelled reservation record for 9/10.

Then from there, if they lie about these, go to the source of the reports and shake the trees there.

[thinkingwoman]

9. we need to stop waiting for national media

to do their job and just do it ourselves.

As a newspaper publisher, I can tell you that there are times when I simply cannot publish a story I know to be true. In those instances, I often appeal to average citizens involved in the situation to write letters to the editor and bring the topic up at city council meetings, etc. I can then publish what they are bringing up and begin questioning local officials about the info and conclusions the average citizens are bringing into public view.

We have the internet, which is the next wave of national media. We understand it and we control it. We must all use it, in mass.

Look how much play Dean's fundraising efforts got and how that propelled him into national media spotlight. Read the Arianna Huffington article in Salon (sorry, don't have the link at the moment) about blogging being the best thing since Tom Paine's pamphlets.

We can get this information out to the public. Write letters to editors all over the nation. Keep up blogging and alternative internet source. Keep doing what we're doing and the info will get out.


I live in a conservative state and all I have heard lately is condi is a liar. People are waking up...slowly. We just have to keep going.

</ranting, rambling pep talk>

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

12. People tend to instictively know...

When someone is lying. As I said to a lawyer friend of mine the other day: "If, during your time as a prosecutor, you had been questioning Ms. Rice and she was coming off to you the way she did before the 911 Commission, you would have been on point like an old bird dog, panting and quivering at the possibilities".

He agreed.

[thinkingwoman]

23. you're right

they do.

Nice to hear confirmation from the former prosecutor though.

[leesa]

10. I have never seen exactly where it was corroborated that she was the

caller, but even if she wasn't, WHO called and WHY did they warn him not to fly on 9-11? Don't you think someone, if they really wanted to know something about 9-11, might want to follow up on that?

[JimT]

13. need more

ACCORDING to a report today Friday, May 17, 2002, on Pacifica Radio, the warning to San Francisco's mayor came from squeaky-clean Condoleezza Rice.

How do they know this? What is the source of this "report"? C'mon, I need more solid evidence. Don't get me wrong, nothing about the Bush administration would surprise me and there are many questions that need to be addressed. But we need to protect ourselves from criticism by the "Right" by being able to solidly back up specific allegations such as this. Otherwise, they too easily can dismiss our whole argument of this administration's incompetence and wrongdoing.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

14. If that's NOT a smoking gun, nothing else could possibly count.

[JimT]

17. it's not a smoking gun

Nothing at that link shows any proof that Condi was the one that made the call. That is all I'm saying. If I make that claim to someone, they will ask me for proof and saying "Pacifica Radio said so" doesn't cut it. I need to know what info Pacifica Radio based their report on or to at least see a transcript of it.

[Must_B_Free]

21. And yet we have reverse filling, after the fact

It took the fact of the Iraq lies reconciliation to trigger the whole look back at the 911 stuff, in terms of the pattern of deception from the Bushes. Only knowing that they lied about Jessica Lynch led to contemplating that they lied about EVERYTHING that led up to, and is now going on in Iraq.

Then with those spectacles on we (meaning mainstream) look back at 9/11 and wonder, "Well what if they lied to us about that, too?"

We learn officially that Condi had advance warning for the hijackings, and now we have a corresponding allegation from 1 year ago that supports what is being alleged today.

What you have is the facts, dragged kicking and screaming, filling themselves into what has been alleged in the past conspiracy theory.

Usually with conspiracy theories, the facts tear them down... This time they are supporting it.

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. But then, why didn't anyone warn Barbara Olson?

My tinfoil hat moment: I still think Ted Olson imitated a pretzel and was the one that gave Bush that black eye. My theory is that Olson, after what he did to help Bush get into the White House, was very angry he wasn't in the loop.

I do feel sorry for him, but, he created his own bad karma.

Okay, the moment is over.

[Bozita]

19. A plane crash is kinda like an instant divorce without all of the ugliness

How "happy" was the Ted and Barbara union?

[nodictators]

20. It's been reported that Barbara Olson was scheduled to fly on

Sep. 10 to the west coast. She decided to stay over, and switched her reservation to the following morning, Sep. 11, and caught the flight that wound up at the Pentagon.

[seabeyond]

22. question on olsen and pentagon flight

reading they didnt find plane, which if true totally absurd, so they used something else to go into building what is the suggestion of what happened to plane. taken into ocean, ? landed and all got out and mass grave except barbara?

[The Backlash Cometh]

24. Good questions, but I have no answers.

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[loftycity]

18. You have Ashcroft,Brown and the whole Bin Laden family questions

These questions I would assume are on the hot list not to be asked or answered under any circumstances. The only question that Clarke avoided was the flights out with the Bin Laden family on the 12th.
He dismissed that question and the commission called him on it..remember.