Rice has gone far since DU; professor regrets the direction...

[RobertDevereaux]

Great Diane Carman piece in 4/8/04 Denver Post

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E115%257E2072208,00.html

But Gilbert is puzzled by what has become of this bright, diligent student.

It's not that she is national security adviser to the president that surprises him. Or even that she is a Republican.

It's that he believes she has failed to heed the lessons of the past. To a historian, this is unconscionable.

When the Bush administration exploited the nation's anxiety over 9/11 to justify invading Iraq, Gilbert said, "it was the worst foreign policy decision made in living memory.

"It worries me that with all this focus on 9/11, it's taking the grave situation in Iraq off the front page," he said, referring to the hearings. "Iraq is a catastrophe beyond measure."

The fact that Rice is capable of defending the decision to go to war is a "terrible failure of education, of picking up what your education should have led you to."

[Fridays Child]

1. Ouch. That's gotta sting!

Welcome to DU, RobertDevereaux. :hi:

I agree with Gilbert about Rice and what she should have learned, especially since her brilliance is supposedly so prodigal. But I'd like to know why he called Kerry's ideas "eerie nothings" and what, as an historian, he would suggest we do about the admittedly terrible dilemma of Iraq.

[RobertDevereaux]

2. Good to be here and vocal...

I've lurked for over a year and thrived on DU. I thought it was time to pipe up. Thanks for the welcome, Mary Pat!

[RedEarth]

3. Outstanding article......thanks for the post........nt

[Dudley_DUright]

4. Great article Robert

The last quote is devastating:

"I can forgive 9/11. But don't ask me to forgive Iraq."

BTW, welcome to DU. Glad you de-lurked and joined in the fun. :hi:

[RobertDevereaux]

5. Thanks, DudleyDR! n/t

[opihimoimoi]

10. Welcome aboard Robert...... the only way to defeat Delusion and

Selfishness is to gather in NUMBERS and vote smart. We need all the help we can get to rid this Nation of Phonies/Frauds/and Amateur Generals.

We have great need to address ways to help ourselves in respect to good governance; That we should be finding ways to improve our lot here in America and throughout the World. Obviously, our present Administration is a selfinterest one led by a selfcentered narccissant.

Woe, onto us for allowing this mess we into by letting Bush into the White House. The Pubs and Bush never showed one iota of Class during recount, more like Brown Shirt Tatics.

Sending surfing lessons and cold beer. Opi

[Prodemsouth]

6. I have often wondered what Professors, such as Gilbert think when one

of their students hits the big leagues. This is a very interesting piece. Thanks for sharing it with us.

[WillyT]

7. Great Post Robert, And Welcome To DU !!!

:bounce::toast::kick::toast::bounce:

Lookin forward to hearin from ya!

:hi:

[Skittles]

8. she became a Bush Whore

there's nothing at all surprising about her

[LandOLincoln]

9. That's a profoundly depressing article. Nothing in there

that's all that unexpected, but I do wonder--if Kerry's calls to internationalize Iraq are "eerie nothings," then what in the world are we to do?

[opihimoimoi]

11. Its the job of Bushites to marginalize/disparage all those who oppose them

Tis the arrogance of the lot.

[LandOLincoln]

12. Well, yes, that's clearly their MO. But I'm not sure what

that has to do with my question...?

[opihimoimoi]

13. "Erie nothings?" What should we do?

Help vote Kerry in cause these Pubs are eriely out of control with dishonesty and selfinterest

Come, lemme buy the first round of cold beer and hot ribs

[Malva Zebrina]

14. In other words, she has learned

to walk the walk and talk the talk. She has learned how to make it appear that she knows of what she talks. It is a learned response but lacks analysis or even lacks a human repsonse. Conoleeza has learned how to make it appear as if she is actualy quite brilliant. That is all she is concerned about. She is NOT interested in anything else but how she comes off. And, I would say the same about Powell
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Both are in the forefront here and are vulnerable re the 9-11 and also the Iraq invasion. Both have learned how to walk the walk and talk the talk and are basically superficial, greedy, persons who believe their own PR manufactured images. And they will do ANYTHING ot maintain that false image.

Condoleeza is, obviously in over her head. She cannot and is not capable. What she is capable of is assuming the role of the actress, the ingenue, the soap opera heroine. She is basically a shill, and she is also as shallow a person as the rest of them. But she knows how to apply the wordspeak. That , in her opinion, makes it seem as if she knows what she is talking aobut. Manufacture words that the average person is not familiar with--that , indeed, establishes you as a person quite elevated above the intelligence of the average person. LOL

There is also something disconcerting and weird about her. Apparently she has no family, no friends, no social life, other than the superficial and ignorant, George and Laura, and to me that seems very strange and weird. KKK at least has a family that is in her life.