Need help with Freeper husband

[janx]

Yesterday, my handsome husband, whose only fault is that he is totally Freeped, caused my mouth to gape by announcing that * was right to start the war in Iraq, because Saddam had funded most of the world's terrorism in the 1990s, and had funded Al Qaeda, and that we liberated the Iraqis. He went on one of those violent Freeper fits and called me all sorts of typical crap, and said I have no clue what I am talking about since I don't read real news sites, only DU and Bart. This criticism I can handle, but he has since sic'd the ultra Freep in laws on me as well, and I am now the dinner table laughingstock b/c I believe that Bush lies about things to get a war started.

Since I am new at this debating crap, can someone give me some data from a reputable source that says without a doubt that Saddam has NOT funded AQ and/or "terra", and that Bush made this crap up to justify the war? Something from CNN etc would be best. We all know how reliable broadcast news is.

I just don't have the time to look it up on my own and I don't want to get slapped around.

Thank in advance

For CONTEXT PLEASE SEE THIS THREAD: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=128&topic_id=7361&mesg_id=7361

[Feanorcurufinwe]

1. If you remove the bait from the hook and eat it, does that count?

[BushHasGotToGo]

2. Call the cops and say he was beating you or something

And then divorce him.

That'll teach him.

(I know this is very sick. I'm joking.)

[Melinda]

3. I suggest you sit down and READ:

Here is an excellent place to begin:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/080103F.shtml

[Cha]

4. I don't exactly know, janx, but there are many here on DU2 who

do! I've seen the links posted! So don't give up ..it may be a little late in the night for some of them..Please keep trying. I'm sorry you have to deal with this. My sister is married to a repug and has repug inlaws but they have come around and realized bush was lying and there are no WMD that started the attack.

They are definetly wrong about bush so all you have to do is get some good info and in the end you will be proven right. This is about so much more than our relatives; it's about the stake of our Country! :kick:

[janx]

5. Zidzi, this is a satire on a previous post: Need help with Freeper wife

Sorry, I thought you might have seen it!

[unfrigginreal]

9. LOL!

I did see it and just went looking for it so that I could out YOU as a freeper! LOL(couldn't find appropriate smilie for me being a dipshit)...I guess my satire antennae need to be adjusted.

[mdmc]

6. no need to research divorce - call a lawyer

:dem:

[antineocon1]

7. This is where I go...

I use informationclearinghouse.info. Lots of great stuff there and much of it comes right out of the mainstream press.

[JackSwift]

8. He uses lies to debate

and then humiliates you in front of in-laws when you try to call him on it, and they all rely on lies.


That's not a friendly debate, that's abuse. Tell him you won't have him doing that, but you will make him a little bet: He proves all of the statements that are lies by finding facts through sources you believe are liable. If he can't, then he apologizes and will get his facts straight first in the future, and he will never make fun of you in front of any family whether you are there or not. If he won't do that, divorce him now. His behavior was abusive.

[Melinda]

10. GAWDAMMIT- A JOKE?

Between this and the numerous trolling threads in GD tonight, not to mention AmyStrange's calling it quits, I too am just about ready to blow on out of DU for a long break

This is a joke?:

"I don't want to get slapped around."

WTF?

Learn how to denote <sarcasm>, would ya?!?!

[janx]

11. There was a moronic thread previously about a "freeper wife"

Satire unwanted at DU?

Relax. Everyone needs satire and humor from time to time.

[Melinda]

13. I didn't read the other thread - I read this one.

You need learn to be responsible for the words you post; it's not my responsibility to peruse every other thread here to predetermine the context of another.

You need indicate sarcasm thru use of emoticons, symbols, or html markup (language) - never assume that we will "get it".

I worked with victims of domestic violence for many years, and I'll never forget the horror of learning that one of my clients had been slit from ear to ear after being "slapped around" by her abusive husband.

I can no longer work in the legal field as a result of the trauma my psyche suffered secondary to knowing and working with abused women, and it's oftentime all I can do to read here without having an adverse reaction.

Be that as it may, I consciously choose not to assume you a victim despite your "slapping around" commentary, but to rather try and help empower you. It was my intention however to follow this thread and ascertain a better feel for you and your "situation", to then follow up as needed by offering advice, resources, etc.

Threads such as this one are best suited for the Lounge. I apologize if I seem edgy or hard, but there it is - my soul is scarred. Please try to exercise more thought in the future.

[janx]

12. I have edited first post and provided a link.

For those who did not see the "Freeper Wife" thread. Thanks for pointing this out.

[sam sarrha]

14. you are in trouble...best thing to do is agree NOT to talk about politics

he is in an Apriori logical loop. anything you feed the loop will go round and round then jump out and bite you on the ass. what ever you say will result in you being demeaned and berated as a liberal, you will have to get in the loop or figure out how to avoid it. i discovered this as a juvenile parole officer. it will take specific activities to rewire his brain..ART..damn that's Liberal!! or learning to play a musical insturment,..damn thats Liberal too. or repetitious exercise, damn! jogging is liberal!! or Meditation... OH MY GOD!!! you are soo screwed!!! he has been brain washed, maybe counseling, or a counselor. try talking about leaving politics out of the relatonship..tv and all. the delinquents i got to meditate were all paroled in 60 days, i quit drinking by meditating in 30 days. probably the only thing you can do is learn to meditate yourself. you can become more emotionally detached, it will give you 'insight' into his suffering...and yours. good luck..:tinfoilhat: :spank: