"No one could possibly be THAT evil."...............

[mopaul]

Have you ever encountered that quote when having a conversation about 9-11? Anytime reasonable adults have this discussion, the theories start to roll out. LIHOP: bush Let It Happen On Purpose.
MIHOP: bush Made It Happen On Purpose. At this point, people on both sides of the argument draw their lines of reasoning.

If it is suggested that buscho, that lovely compassionate bunch of patriots, actually orchestrated the horrors of 9-11, for political and economic purposes, the inevitable voice of skepticism pipes in.
"No one could possibly be so evil, as to murder 3,000 innocents, not in America". I usually answer with a simple, "Why not?"

Just because it's never happened before, doesn't mean that it could NEVER happen, there's always a first time, right? All I ask is that we can at least allow ourselves to consider the MIHOP possibility, without dismissing it outright, and permitting no further discussion of it. After all, this is the greatest crime ever committed on our soil in our history, so we should be as objective about it as possible, and look at all sides.

We should also admit to ourselves, as I do, that we may be wrong in our assumptions. Instead of saying, "I know I'm right", which is so arrogant, we should say, "I could be wrong", and proceed from there.

Do not dismiss all theories about 9-11, it's too early. It only happened 2 1/2 years ago, and the book has not been written yet, so to speak. Do not ridicule anyone who is slightly suspicious that evil men have no problem with killing thousands of souls for personal gain. It's happened all through our long human history, and it's happening right now, to us, here in America. Some of us see it, some of us don't.

Consider how evil these men actually are, consider the actual evil they have done that is without question, and then ask yourself, could anyone possibly be so evil as to make 9-11 happen? Of course, someone possibly could, and someone did.

The official story about who did it, must also be questioned. Do you accept ANYTHING as truth from these evil men? They say it was Osama, but was it? Can anyone prove, or disprove it? Do you simply accept the official story, or do you ever think that they might be feeding us a bullshit story? Afterall, they've been caught in huge lies about going to war, this renders them totally unbelievable.

Is it ridiculous to consider that the government has ever lied to us?
They've been caught in about a thousand lies here lately, and many thousands of people have died in just 3 years of bushco. So what's one more lie, in an endless flow of lies?

If you honestly think, that no one could possibly be so evil as to sacrifice so many thousands of lives, for political gain and global domination, then perhaps you are lying to yourself.

More and more people are painfully waking up to the horrific possibility that 9-11 was an inside job. When manifest destiny ruled America, the white man took dominion over the native people, and any atrocity was overlooked when it came to conquering the land.
Certain white men would dress up as wild hostile Navajos and raid a white settlement and scalp women and children and leave a calling card to blame it on the dirty Indians. Then, inevitably, a 'cleansing' military slaughter of innocents would ensue.

This COULD be what is happening here. I wish it was black and white, and that there were final, and definitive answers about 9-11, but the fact is, the facts are not all in. We are still in the investigative stages, and many of us are the nagging, annoying type, who like to look at all sides of a crime, before passing judgment.

The ugly truth is, these particular men, COULD possibly be THAT EVIL.

[Karenina]

1. They ARE that evil.

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[harrison]

2. As Bartcop has asked, "Do you believe that evil men would kill

innocent people for millions of dollars?" Or something to that effect.

[KG]

3. to men as evil dick cheney and his cronies

the deaths of 3000 proles is as nothing to further ambitions

they have no faith in a god or patriotism: they worship at the alter of mammon; their allegience is to power and wealth.

satan is building a new circle in hell for these monsters.

[Odallas]

4. For what?

Control of the most powerful military organ in the world. Dominance over the earths resources. TRILLIONS of Dollars in profit.

Nah, nobody would kill over that.

[RC]

5. The facts about 9/11/2001 coming out now

that throw in doubt the government's version seem to point first to LIHOP and with further inconsistencies, which raise more questions that have answers that point more and more to MADE it happen on purpose.

Win or lose, I can see a bloody showdown coming next year. The criminals will not be going willingly into the night.

[Junkdrawer]

6. The RW always deflects "Bush Knew" into the most extreme MIHOP scenario

I think the Players Got Played. They expected an "incident", but instead lost both towers of the World Trade Center. And remember, not even Bin Laden expected the towers to fall.

[ewagner]

11. That's pretty much

where my logic takes me at this point......

I think they expected a single plane hijacking or something similar....mothing beyond that

SURPRISE!

I'lve looked at a lot of the evidence and this is where I come down.

[Junkdrawer]

14. Check this archived thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1296064

Now we are hearing how immense the increase in chatter was prior to 9/11. Consider this:

Suppose the Bin Laden threatened a terror attack on the US if we kept threatening the Taliban (carpet of gold/carpet of bombs).

Further suppose that the neocons decided to allow said terror attack, (the PNAC Pearl Harbor) thinking that it would be, as Condi has said, a traditional hijacking.

Finally, suppose that, one way or another, it got back to Bin Laden that he was being given an "unguarded shot on goal." (My guess is through sympathizers in the Saudi Govt).

Now, knowing that no one was going to stop him, Bin Laden does two things:

1.) He ups the ante of his plans to attacks on the two World Trade Centers, the Pentagon, and the White House.

2.) He presses for the completion of his plans with more-or-less open communications.

Because of the latter, the entire world's intelligence services start to hear the plans and start warning Washington. Hell, the regular CIA and the FBI get start to get clued in. But the Chimpster & Co. know it's coming, so they're trying to minimize the importance of the warnings.

If all this is true, there may be further bombshells to come, perhaps from foreign intelligence services.

[Dying Eagle]

7. I think they are that evil

Take out 3000 New Yorkers and i will guarantee 2000 were Dem's. I'm surprised they didn't let them hit Boston.

[patricia92243]

8. Bush 's legacy will always be doubt and conspiracy theories about what he.

knew and when he knew it. This will happen because the WH has not bent over back wards to do everything humanly possible to make sure this is not the case.

Such as have hearings as soon as possible - err on the side of having the hearing too soon - in case all the information is not ready.

Have the hearing last as long as necessary.

Have the hearing open to public scrutiny and quit hiding behind "national security". Obviously, we didn't have any national security to hide or 911 would not have happened.

There were many opportunities for Bush not to ruin his legacy. He must be more naive than any of us ever thought or believed.

[liberalitch]

9. Good...

I should hope so

[radwriter0555]

10. I knew they were that evil the summer of 2000 when I finished reading

hours and hours of bush family history including BCCI, Iran Contra, etc.

And when the PNAC stole the election on November 7th, I knew we were in for a horrible, horrible 4 years, complete with war, terror, death, murder, scandal and mayhem.

"I told you so" has been the worst phrase I've ever had to repeat, over and over again since August 2000.

[indepat]

12. And all this is but prologue and we haven't really seen anything

for their best is yet to come.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

13. It has happened several times before...

Desert Storm I
<http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3589/us-iraq-lie.html>
<http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0906/p25s02-cogn.html>
<http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=The_babies-from-incubators_hoax_and_war_in_the_Persian_Gulf>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Glaspie>

Vietnam War: Gulf of Tonkin
<http://www.fair.org/media-beat/940727.html>

Pearl Harbor: Day of Deceit
<http://www.pearlharbor41.com/1.htm>
<http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/McCollum/index.html>

WWI: The Sinking of the Lusitania
<http://www.vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/7/1/Ward119-121.html>
<http://www.gwpda.org/naval/lusika00.htm>

Spanish-American War: USS Maine
<http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq71-1.htm>

And one proposal that evidently was not approved:

Operation Northwoods
<http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/>
<http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jointchiefs_010501.html>
<http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/Northwoods.html>

[King_Crimson]

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[devinsgram]

16. Could these men be that evil. Absolutely YES!!!!!

I always knew that old man Bush was evil, but son is worse. Could see that from the very first time I saw him. The son is one who really enjoys seeing death. Three thousand, it could have been three million and he would not have blinked. Evil is as evil does.

[undergroundpanther]

17. It's the decent

People who cannot fathom orchestrating 9/11 themselves,they have a case of solipsism.

In reality it is the most deceptive of sociopaths the ones who can hide their true character that "make it" in the halls of government and board of corporations.

Over and over we put charismatic people who take risks and think they can do no wrong in positions of power and make excuses for them~pretending they are not evil people ~when they got into office.

Bush got joy in childhood from blowing up frogs and tormenting others he was a bully at the least.It has been documented kids who torment animals grow up to be bullies and very possibly can morph into serial killers and criminals with no conscience.Bush abusing animals by doing cruel shit like catching a frog,than forcing it's mouth open, placing a firecracker in it,lighting the fuse waiting in anticipation,and laughing at the carnage.What kind of character does a child like that display? What spiritual fruits? Bush cannot admit he has done wrong.,He has no humility and he has no conscience or empathy.The qualities that make humanity living together in societies possible.

Could YOU right now, go out and get a frog ,get a firecracker and blow the frog up with it? Could you laugh with glee and make your a new hobby? The president did it,and today he surrounds himself with"his kind" Bullies like Chaney,Frist the Cat killer...War criminal Kissenger..They are evil and they will keep doing evil and lying and covering it up misusing power until decent people can admit to themselves Evil people can appear decent just like they themselves naturally are.Evil people need cohorts and a complicit in denial culture for company to do the shit they do and come out smelling like roses..

In America we have no clue what the true character is of the people we elect .We just see their planned or on TV appearances and see their 'aruguments'from a distance,a few may get a handshake...We don't see these candidates living among us without their posse or P.R. people putting them always in a positive light,to sell them to us.There are no genuine private or "candid" moments allowed in elections ,because if we saw unguarded candid moments where the candidate said something nasty or looked unattractive,or too ambitious or not ambitious enough,or that he didn't care..If we may glimpse into the real heart of a candidate we would see how the different conscience of these people are and how evil these people are, from us,and the game would finally be over.The last of it would be the candidate would lose the election.
Evil men who seek power can't let that truth happen to get out because they must win ! Winning unearned public trust via appearances is their ticket to the ever higher niches of unapproachability,invulnerability and unaccountability that corrupted power systems bring to the upstart corrupted,working in a corrupted nepotism nesting inside a culture of denial and benefits of doubt lavished upon the untrustworthy by the less Machiavellian ambitious.

Power is a haven to the sociopath,a playground to act out in.
Power is a very heavy ,serious,complex, important burden for good people.

[Mattforclark]

18. Anyone 'could' be that evil

But the more likely explanation is that they are just incompetent.