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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:51 PM
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The Line (Clarke stuff + new insider + others)
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 03:56 PM by WilliamPitt
Former White House Counter-Terrorism Czar Richard Clarke has managed to do something that defies modern political gravity. He has stayed in the news, hour after hour and day after day. He was hurled many days ago into the maelstrom of the 24-hour news cycle, which reports one moment on an incredibly important story, flings that story out beyond the Ort Cloud the next moment, and that story is never seen again. Clarke, somehow, has managed to maintain his position at the top of the news despite this process we mistakenly call 'journalism' for longer than any other ten major recent stories combined.

There are several reasons for this. First of all, Clarke’s accusations are damning. According to him, the Bush administration ignored the threat of al Qaeda terrorism completely. After the attacks of September 11, the administration became obsessed with attacking Iraq, despite the fact that every intelligence organization in America was telling them Iraq had nothing to do with it. Clarke maintains that the war in Iraq is a dangerous distraction from the defense of the nation, a political war that has nothing to do with making America safer, and one that has costs us terribly in blood and treasure. Given the fact that Clarke was physically in the White House for all this, and that he has been in the anti-terrorism business since the days of Ronald Reagan, his accusations have long, sharp teeth.

There is also the fact that Clarke apologized for September 11. In the context of a White House that has battled the assembly of a September 11 investigation for two years, a White House that has slapped down every plea from the family members of those who died on September 11 to get this investigation rolling, a White House that tried at one point to put the investigation into the slippery hands of Henry Kissinger, a White House that has adamantly refused to hand over relevant data about September 11 to the commission they never wanted to see in the first place, a White House that won’t allow National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice to testify publicly before this commission despite her central role in the administration, a National Security Advisor that would dance the Macarena on the Capitol dome if it could get her out of giving that testimony because she knows she will get clobbered with her own words, and finally a White House that never got around to saying they were sorry to the families of the September 11 victims, in the context of all that, Richard Clarke’s heartfelt apology to those families instantly became the stuff of political legend.

Another reason Clarke has stayed in the news is because he does not stand alone. Had he been the only person to come forth with savage criticism of George W. Bush and his administration, Karl Rove would have called out the dogs, and Clarke would have found himself selling Amway outside of McMurdo Sound before St. Patrick’s Day. Fortunately for Mr. Clarke, and for the truth, he has joined a long and prestigious line of people who have come forward to bear witness against this White House:

· Tom Maertens, who was National Security Council director for nuclear non-proliferation for both the Clinton and Bush White House. Maertens’ own words tell the tale: “Clarke was a colleague of mine for 15 months in the White House, under both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. Subsequently, I moved to the U.S. State Department as deputy coordinator for counterterrorism, and worked with him and his staff before and after 9/11. The Bush administration did ignore the threat of terrorism. It was focused on tax cuts, building a ballistic missile system, withdrawing from the ABM Treaty and rejecting the Kyoto Protocol. Clarke’s gutsy insider recounting of events related to 9/11 is an important public service. From my perspective, the Bush administration has practiced the most cynical, opportunistic form of politics I witnessed in my 28 years in government: hijacking legitimate American outrage and patriotism over 9/11 to conduct a pre-ordained war against Saddam Hussein.”

· Roger Cressey, Clarke's former deputy. Cressy backs up one of the most damning charges that has been leveled against the administration by Clarke: They blew past al Qaeda after the 9/11 attacks, focusing instead on Iraq. Cressy is one of four eyewitnesses to an exchange between Clarke and Bush which took place in the White House Situation Room on September 12, 2001. Bush pressed Clarke three times on September 12 to find evidence that Iraq was responsible for the attacks. According to his book, ‘Against All Enemies,’ Clarke protested that al-Qaida, and not Iraq, which was responsible. Bush angrily ordered him to "'look into Iraq, Saddam,'" and then left the room. According to Cressy, Condoleezza Rice was also a witness to this exchange. The word from administration officials is that Rice can’t seem to remember it. This, among others, is a reason Rice is refusing to testify publicly before the September 11 commission.

· Paul O’Neill, former Treasury Secretary for George W. Bush. O'Neill was afforded a position on the National Security Council because of his job as Treasury Secretary, and sat in on the Iraq invasion planning sessions which were taking place months before the attacks of September 11. "It was all about finding a way to do it," says O'Neill. "That was the tone of it. The president saying 'Go find me a way to do this.'" O'Neill describes the process of decision-making between Bush and his people as being "like a blind man in a roomful of deaf people." Pulitzer prizewinning journalist Ron Suskind captured O'Neill's views in a new book titled 'The Price of Loyalty.' "From the very first instance, it was about Iraq," says Suskind about his interviews with O'Neill and his review of 19,000 pages of documentary evidence provided by O’Neill. "It was about what we can do to change this regime. Day one, these things were laid and sealed.”

· Joseph Wilson, the former ambassador and career diplomat who received lavish praise from the first President Bush for his work in Iraq before the first Gulf War. Wilson was the man dispatched in February 2002 to Niger to see if charges that Iraq was seeking uranium from that nation to make nuclear bombs had any merit. He investigated, returned, and informed the CIA, the State Department, the office of the National Security Advisor and the office of Vice President Cheney that the charges were without merit. Eleven months later, George W. Bush used the Niger uranium claim in his State of the Union address to scare the cheese out of everyone, despite the fact that the claim had been irrefutably debunked. Wilson went public, exposing this central bit of evidence to support the Iraq invasion as the lie it was. A few days later, Wilson’s wife came under attack from the White House, whose agents used press proxies to destroy her career in the CIA as a warning to Wilson and anyone else who might come forward. For the record, Wilson’s wife was a deep-cover agent running a network which worked to keep weapons of mass destruction out of the hands of terrorists. The irony is palpable.

· Greg Thielmann, former Director of the Office of Strategic, Proliferation, and Military Issues in the State Department. Thielmann, like Ambassador Wilson, was involved in investigating whether the Niger uranium claims had any merit. Thielmann told Newsweek at the beginning of June 2003 that the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research had concluded the documents used to support the Niger uranium claims were "garbage." In fact, they were crude forgeries. Thielmann was stunned to see Bush use the claims in his State of the Union address eleven months after the charge had been dispensed with as nonsense. "When I saw that, it really blew me away," Thielmann told Newsweek. He watched Bush use the claim and said, "Not that stupid piece of garbage. My thought was, how did that get into the speech?"

· Karen Kwiatkowski, a Lt. Colonel in the Air Force and a career Pentagon officer. Kwiatkowski worked in the office of Undersecretary for Policy Douglas Feith, and worked specifically with the Office of Special Plans. Kwiatkowski’s own words tell her story: “From May 2002 until February 2003, I observed firsthand the formation of the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans and watched the latter stages of the neoconservative capture of the policy-intelligence nexus in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq. I saw a narrow and deeply flawed policy favored by some executive appointees in the Pentagon used to manipulate and pressurize the traditional relationship between policymakers in the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies. I witnessed neoconservative agenda bearers within OSP usurp measured and carefully considered assessments, and through suppression and distortion of intelligence analysis promulgate what were in fact falsehoods to both Congress and the executive office of the president.”

· Rand Beers, who served the Bush administration on the National Security Council at the White House as a special assistant to the President for combating terrorism. Mr. Beers served in government for more than 30 years working in international narcotics and law enforcement affairs, intelligence, and counter-terrorism. He worked for the National Security Council under presidents Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton. Because of his position, Beers saw everything. In a June 25 2003 interview with Ted Koppel on Nightline, Beers reported that the administration was failing dramatically to defend the United States against terrorism. According to Beers, al Qaeda presented a far greater threat to America than Hussein and Iraq, and that the Iraq war was a terrible and unnecessary distraction from what was truly needed to keep the nation safe.

Rogue journalist Hunter S. Thompson, in a Rolling Stone article from July 4 1973 titled ‘Fear and Loathing in Washington: The Boys in the Bag,’ described the looming sense of doomed finality which surrounded the Nixon White House after the existence of recorded Oval Office conversations became exposed. The Nixon White House had tried everything to that point to fend of the Watergate scandal: They denied everything, then tried to pay off the central figures, then fired a bunch of people, denied everything again, and finally released edited transcripts of the White House tapes in an effort to stem the tide that was about to flood them out of power.

“There are a hundred or more people wandering around Washington today,” wrote Thompson, “who have heard the ‘real stuff,’ as they put it – and despite their professional caution when the obvious question arises, there is one reaction they all feel free to agree on: that nobody who felt shocked, depressed or angry after reading the edited White House transcripts should ever be allowed to hear the actual tapes, except under heavy sedation or locked in the trunk of a car. Only a terminal cynic, they say, can listen for any length of time to the real stuff without feeling a compulsion to do something like drive down to the White House and throw a bag of live rats over the fence.”

Richard Clarke, Tom Maertens, Roger Cressey, Paul O’Neill, Joseph Wilson, Greg Thielmann, Karen Kwiatkowski and Rand Beers all heard and saw the real stuff happening in this Bush White House. Wilson has a book coming out in May, in which he will name the White House operatives who destroyed his wife’s career. There will be more books, from more people, and the 24-hour news cycle will continue to ride this tiger.

These people are telling the world about the real stuff. The Bush/Cheney Re-Election Axis is terrified, and the Secret Service detail guarding the White House perimeter might want to cowboy up in preparation for a rain of rat bags coming over that fence.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:54 PM
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1. Nitpicky edit time!
Cressey? Or Cressy?

Other than that, it's your usual fine job.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:57 PM
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3. Roger Cressey
I triple-checked.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:03 PM
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8. spelled it right at the top, then wrong 3 times in the body
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 04:08 PM by librechik
Roger Cressey, Clarke's former deputy. Cressy backs up one of the most damning charges that has been leveled against the administration by Clarke: They blew past al Qaeda after the 9/11 attacks, focusing instead on Iraq. Cressy is one of four eyewitnesses to an exchange between Clarke and Bush which took place in the White House Situation Room on September 12, 2001. Bush pressed Clarke three times on September 12 to find evidence that Iraq was responsible for the attacks. According to his book, ‘Against All Enemies,’ Clarke protested that al-Qaida, and not Iraq, which was responsible. Bush angrily ordered him to "'look into Iraq, Saddam,'" and then left the room. According to Cressy, Condoleezza Rice was also a witness to this exchange."

also: "to fend of the Watergate scandal" is to fend off--

Great work, Will!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:07 PM
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10. D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh D'oh
D'oh. OK. I'll fix that in the final. Thanks. :grr:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:32 PM
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36. I know you have to care how words are spelled, but...
...I'm just happy as hell to get all of the information in your post!

Thanks for your continuing contributions to winning back our country!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:20 PM
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18. That's what I was getting at! Thanks for the assist!
:hi:
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:59 PM
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4. One more...
Ort cloud should be spelled Oort.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:45 PM
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30. Indeed
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:05 PM
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32. Got it. Thanks.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:56 PM
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2. Which Rat Bags?
HST's incoming rat bags, or Team Bush's outgoing rat bags?

My own belief is that Team Bush has been terrified since 9/11. They thought they had the world by the tail, but they were chasing their own.

Bring on the Special Prosecutor!

--bkl
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 03:59 PM
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5. Another excellent piece of work Mr. Pitt ...
hope to see you Saturday. I'm sure this will be one of the many to be discussed.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:10 PM
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14. Good-you're coming to the People's Republik!
:toast:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:00 PM
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6. ". . .more books, from more people. . ." Bwahahahaaa!!
More shit-bombs headed for * & Co.

:nuke:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:00 PM
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7. question about the Mariani lawsuit
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 04:01 PM by nostamj
and finally a White House that never got around to saying they were sorry to the families of the September 11 victims

does that pending litigation make it impossible for the WH to 'apologize'?

not Condi's dodge of "we feel for your loss" but "we take responsibility for your loss" - which was Clarke's sentiment?

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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:06 PM
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9. ..and, the mother of all books is coming out next year
Colin Powell's. And I've heard that he's going to try to clear his name and slap down the neocons once and for all.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:35 PM
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37. Right. I'll believe that ONLY when I see it....
...Powell's been involved in every single Army cover-up since My Lai, and continues to support the NeoCon's position every single time he's interviewed.

If he writes a book by next summer, my bet is that it will be SOS.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:08 PM
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11. Only the blind won't see the dots connected.....only the deaf
will not hear the truth.

Another superb column that gets to the heart of the issue, Mr. Pitt!
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:08 PM
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12. What is your source for the claim that Wilson will name those who outed...
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 04:09 PM by Brotherjohn
... his wife? ("Wilson has a book coming out in May, in which he will name the White House operatives who destroyed his wife’s career.")

Pretty explosive, if true. But to date, I have not heard him do anything more than speculate on the matter. If it IS true, shouldn't he be telling it to the grand jury?

Otherwise, this is a great, and much-needed, itemized list of insiders who have come out. It needs to be made clear that this is not just one "disgruntled employee" selling a book, especially since the attention span of the average voter is about a week.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:14 PM
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15. Publisher's Weekly
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/030304J.shtml

Wilson Book Will Reveal White House Leak
Publisher's Weekly Newsletter

Tuesday 02 March 2004

The much-awaited May book from nuclear expert Joseph Wilson will disclose who in the White House he says leaked information that led to the outing of his wife as a CIA agent, PW has learned.

Sources say the embargoed title, The Politics of Truth, from Carroll & Graf, will reveal who tipped off syndicated columnist Robert Novak in July that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, worked for the CIA--a felony punishable by as many as ten years in prison--and the larger circumstances around the leak. The matter is the subject of a grand-jury investigation that has seen Novak, Wilson and a number of high-profile administration members questioned.

Asked about such disclosures in the book, C&G editor Philip Turner did not deny that the book was specific. "I think readers who want the personality side will not be disappointed. He lays it on the line." As for the author's candor on the leak's larger circumstances, Turner says, "Without going too far, he sketches out a scenario of events that is convincing and plausible and very personal." Turner says the book has been vetted carefully and that the publisher is prepared to defend it.

The book, which will come out May 20, will discuss Wilson's career as a diplomat in Africa and devote three chapters to the time he served as the last American diplomat in Baghdad, in 1990. But the juiciest part remains the name game: Who provided the leak, and how. Novak cited two senior administration officials in his July column but has declined to turn them over to investigators. Wilson has been silent since the grand jury convened.

Wilson, a retired ambassador, came to prominence with a NY Times op-ed in July about the investigation he made on behalf of the Bush administration over a claim, first made in the State of the Union address in 2003, that Saddam Hussein had tried to buy uranium from Niger. In the piece, titled "What I Didn't Find In Africa," Wilson said that he found no evidence that the transaction had been attempted. Several weeks later, Novak reported that Wilson's wife was CIA. Another grand jury is meeting over the Niger findings.

A first-person account that Wilson is writing himself, Politics of Truth is expected to draw heavy attention, and has already lined up media such as Dateline. Turner signed it up for an advance reportedly only in the low five-figures at the end of September, just days before a criminal referral was given that empanelled a grand jury. In the book, Wilson reportedly describes the last eight months as an "existential roller-coaster that has not yet come to rest."--Steven Zeitchik
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:10 PM
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13. Why did you leave out Donald Kerrick?
and, this could be wrong, but didn't someone named Shelton also come out against the Administration's pre-9-11 inactions in regard to Al-Qaeda?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:31 PM
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22. I just put Kerrick in
Thanks for the reminder.
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:15 PM
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16. One more big reason this is still in the press is the Bush reaction.
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 04:17 PM by GumboYaYa
The unprecedented assault on Clarke has let this linger longer than normally would be the case. Frist threw fire on this whole thing on last Friday when he made the accusation that Clarke perjured himself. Ordinarily, Friday afternoon is the time where all good stories go to die. Typically, you would think that the administration would have been happy to get to Friday and let this whole issue start to slowly disappear. This was not to be. Instead, they threw gasoline on the fire in a way that is certain to keep this discussion going at least one more week.

To me there is only one explanation for placing greater emphass on trashing Clarke than escaping the news cycle. There is clearly more to this story that is being hidden. While the current story is bad, it is subject to spin. The Bushes are hiding the unspinnable now.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:15 PM
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17. 2004 election will bring about the seismic shift in the intel community.
I really see the BFEE loyalists within intel finally being THROWN OUT ON THEIR ASSES by the good guys in the intel community and the Kerry administration.

No doubt about it.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:21 PM
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19. Nice job...some nitpicks
"...Nixon White House after the existence of recorded Oval Office conversations became exposed."

"became" is the wrong word here - how about plain old "were exposed."

I think you should also move the whole Hunter Thompson thing to the top of the essay, in order to both set the atmosphere and create a fuller sense of symmetry with the conclusion.
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:22 PM
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20. One more nitpicky copyedit
in the second 'graph:

and one that has costs us

Er, you meant "has cost us," right?

Thought so. Some gremlin came in and added an "s" to it. ;-)
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:29 PM
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21. Thanks for a GREAT compilation of quotes from honest Americans
Now about that bag of rats? Should I go for woodrats or Norway browns?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:32 PM
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23. Wharf rats
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:44 PM
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24. Will, THANKS for saying what you say, so WELL. Your momma raised
you right.

This is going to some people pretty high up the DNC ladder from me.

Thanks... This is great, great stuff.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:49 PM
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25. Wait wait wait wait
for the final truthout version. I still have to clear out some mistakes.

Thanks!
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Zo Zig Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:11 PM
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34. Check HST
I thought that story about the trash can of rats was when LBJ was in office? I realize that Dick deserved many cans of rats, just wouldn't want you to mix your vermon and lairs up, or your cans and bags.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:12 PM
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40. I pulled it right out of The Great Shark Hunt
p.297
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Zo Zig Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 11:22 PM
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41. I stand corrected,
the next paragraph states the original event involving Yail Bloor, that was what I was referring to. Bloor did actually throw a trash can over the fence at the WH during LBJ days according to HST. Pass the Wild Turkey!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:50 PM
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26. Excellent, excellent - already emailed out
Thanks Will - very nice.

BTW, missing a pronoun or something here:

According to his book, ‘Against All Enemies,’ Clarke protested that al-Qaida, and not Iraq, which was responsible.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 04:54 PM
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27. A couple of nitpicks...
Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 04:55 PM by VelmaD
In the long list of "a White House that did blahs..." the switch over to "a National Security Advisor that would dance the Macarena on the Capitol dome if it could get her out of giving that testimony because she knows she will get clobbered with her own words" breaks up the continuity of the thought. It's a funny line...but it just doens't seem to fit with the stuff before and after it about the White House.

In the Roger Cressey section: "According to his book, ‘Against All Enemies,’ Clarke protested that al-Qaida, and not Iraq, which was responsible." Shouldn't that read "...that it was al-Quaida, and not Iraq, which was responsible."?

In the Rand Beers section: "He worked for the National Security Council under presidents Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton." Needs an and before Clinton.

In the Hunter S. section "The Nixon White House had tried everything to that point to fend of the Watergate scandal: They denied everything,..." Should They be capitalized after the colon? the other clauses after the colon are not.

That's it for the nits. Otherwise I love it. :loveya:
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:03 PM
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28. Great job, Will!
nm
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:40 PM
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29. kickety
:kick:
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 05:51 PM
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31. Good Job as usual Will. However, I don't think Clarke is hurting Bush
one bit.

My theory. People know Bush is stupid and incompetent. They accept it. They like that he kicks ass, even if it turns out to be the WRONG ass.

Clarke cements without any evidence, that al qaeda and Bin Laden committed 9-11. I'm still waiting for some real evidence on this point. Don't tell me about that fake tape, which so far, is the only thing people point to when they say Bin Laden did it.

Unfortunately, Americans are so trite that all Bush has to do to win is to get the gas prices lowered by 15 cents or so by October 2004.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:08 PM
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33. Some others who have spoken out:
I was trying to find the name of the career diplomat (Brady Kiesling) who resigned a year or two back in protest of US policy re Iraq, and found it in this excellent article about Daniel Ellsberg's thoughts on the current situation:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/03/29/MNGK75SR5A1.DTL

The article mentions a few others who have spoken out, and ends with a list of "Those Who Told".

Great article, Will!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:37 PM
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38. Excellent recall and a good find!
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 06:28 PM
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35. Other names that came out against Bush from his admin
John Diulio ("Mayberry Machiavellis"?)
Eric Schaeffer (EPA deputy)
John Brady Kiesling (Foreign Service)
Shinseki & White both questioned tactics?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1264432
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