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nwstrn Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:52 PM
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Bush* "personally initiated and is directing" anti-Clarke attacks
"Bear in mind that top White House aides have told the press that the president personally initiated and is directing this campaign against Clarke. Not outside rabble-rousers, not nefarious aides operating on their own account, but the president himself. This is all his doing, according to his own staffers."

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/


So in addition to searching for WMDs under the Oval Office sofa, Bush* apparently spends his days conjuring up attacks on his former aide. TPM makes some excellent points about the matter:

"If it ends up that told the truth this week but perjured himself two years ago, I'd be disappointed, and he may have to face an indictment, but he'd still be a hero for telling the truth now. The fact that the Bush White House got him to lie for them then hardly puts them in a good light.

If you're just interested in having the facts come out, then it's really not a great source of concern. For the public, the fact that Clarke might have lied once and told the truth once isn't really point. All that matters here is what the truth actually is, and that it comes out. And the White House is doing us the favor of showing that that is not a goal they share"

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:57 PM
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1. Glad to hear it! With Captain Asterisk at the helm...
that ship is sure to run aground.
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Papa Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:35 PM
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13. Captain Asterisk.. that's a great name. did you invent that?
I hadnt seen that one before.
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 09:13 PM
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17. Oh, LisaM!!!!!
That is SUCH a GREAT name for president moron! I may just steal it to use to my rethuglican associates!
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:57 PM
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2. IMHO, Clarke is an OLD Bulldog
and will not lie under oath.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:57 PM
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3. Bush doesn't initiate or personally direct ANYTHING
HE IS A F***ING PUPPET
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:12 PM
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6. Exactly. Rove runs it all. Everything. Its all about being a "war
president" and flags.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:16 PM
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8. wrong, Skittles!!!
:hi:

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:23 PM
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10. love that wizard of oz comic!
thanks :)
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:26 PM
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11. Hee hee, great cartoon
Except Bush is the monkey with wings.


Images of the March 21 protest in Los Angeles here:
http://ediablo.com/LAprotest3-21-04.html
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terisel Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:44 PM
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15. I beieve he runs the vicious stuff himself
I think Bush is a consummate conman. Karl Rove didn't sign the execution orders in Texas, Bush did.

During the presidential debates he became animated and enthusiastic when he said the men involved in a particular hate crime were going to be put to death.

I didn't see the slide show he did about the wmd but it sounded as though he was engaging in a "who cares what you think" moment.

I also think that if he figures he can't have more wars, assassinations, and executions, or can't do cons and power squeezes on people, he would just as soon not be president.

If he were forced to resign he wouldn't be like Nixon-no tearful, agonized speech. His attitude will basically be "screw you suckers, I got what I wanted."
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 07:59 PM
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4. I like this quote from the same
"Yet Clarke's new enemies now want to use the fact that they control the Justice Department and the process of declassification to knock him out because he is, to all appearances, trying to bust open that very vault of secrecy.

In other words, precisely the tools these folks refuse to use in the interests of keeping everything secret they are more happy to use to crush someone who is opposing them.
"
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:12 PM
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5. Good quote pinkpops
It's also very interesting how Faux news was oh so eager to release the Clarke off the record statements too.

Yet the corporate media is so concerned about protecting the people responsible for outing Valerie Plame? Why doesn't Faux tell what they know about that? To protect Chimpy, sources must remain confidential. To attack Chimpy critics, sources must be disclosed.
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kera Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:13 PM
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7. my take on this
my feeling on this is that they won't pursue Clark for the press conference he made two years ago,in terms of unsealing the report, because it would be more damaging to them than the testimony and the book. for one thing it would trigger another storm if Clark is forced to acknowledge that he had been pressured to Lie to the Public.
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:28 PM
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18. Yeah, isn't "suborning perjury" a felony?
If he lied, wouldn't it have been on orders from the WH?
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kera Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:35 PM
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21. absolutely, and tampering with witness
violating public trust, well I know for a fact that liars never make it far because


Liar has such a bad memory , it is well known fact
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:17 PM
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9. This TPM is a really great analysis of what appears to be going on now
re the "perjury charges" Well worth reading. . . .thanks for posting it.
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:32 PM
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12. Good
Theres no one in the country that can screw things up like Bush.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:39 PM
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14. a sad, petty man is george bush.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 08:56 PM
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16. This fits what we've heard with precision....
he can't be bothered with technicalities, but he is very aware of perceived disloyalty and vindicative as they come.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:33 PM
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19. I was wondering who came up with the brain-dead idea of...
promoting Clarke's book like that. With the sycophant press being what it is, if they ignored it, it would have died in a day or two. Now it's on everyone's night stand.

Way to go, brain boy. :thumbsup:
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:33 PM
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20. A key point...
Back up for a moment and look at what's happening here.

What this is about isn't Condi Rice or Richard Clarke or even George W. Bush. It's about what happened -- finding out what happened.

One side wants to find out; the other doesn't. This whole story turns on that simple fact. Why else try to destroy Clark unless what he has to say is profoundly damaging? Liars are usually easily discredited; it's the truth-tellers who need to be destroyed.


Not quite a sound-byte, but still a nice, cogent, concise "meme" - and the "Liars can be discredited, truthtellers need to be destoyed" line is an especially telling point that we should use whenever the opportuninty presents itself.
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pacifictiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 10:51 PM
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22. vindictivness
seems to be part of his character flaw - saddam is a good example. He is such a small man he has to pump himself up by destroying or taking advantage of others.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:20 PM
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23. The beady-eyed, pursed-lip vindictiveness of the POTUS is so frightening -
- I'm protecting my sanity by conjuring up guardians who are protecting the country and us from whatever further mess the idiot will create.

(If b*ush is focused only on Clarke who is taking care of the country - not that he ever did. I'm just hoping "the guardians" are keeping all the balls in the air)

I hope when it comes to the point of the WH/DoJ claiming full control over the declassifying process that the SCOTUS (Supreme Court) will step in (how's that for wishful thinking?) and do the right thing.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-04 11:36 PM
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24. Of course he is...he and Lee Atwater were fellow dirty trick...
...operatives during Bush I's campaign against Dukakis.
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