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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:29 PM
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Abrams read DU? WH should charge Clarke w/perjury or shut up. (Transcript)
Was he reading my posts yesterday? Heh...that's the BOTTOM LINE folks. Anyone who wants to claim Clarke is not being honest should DEMAND he be charged with perjury and provide the proof that backs up their claim.

Check out how Bush's NUMBER ONE SPINNER, Tucker Eskew dances around that issue. HAHAHAHAH.

ABRAMS:
All right, before we talk about some of the legal issues, Mr. Eskew, you believe that you now have the smoking gun tape/document that proves that Mr. Clarke‘s testimony is not truthful, correct?

TUCKER ESKEW, DEP. ASST. TO PRES. BUSH, COMMUNICATIONS: Well, we have evidence where Mr. Clarke himself laid out the case strongly for the president‘s strong action against terrorists. His own words make him guilty of at least shifting stories, if not, shifting loyalties. Not only that, you have commission members today telling the press, telling the public, that Mr. Clarke‘s tenor, and in fact words were very different in private than they were in public as he approached publication of his book. So these are very serious questions, and I don‘t think we even need outside parties to find Mr. Clarke guilty of those shifting stories. His own words convict him of that charge.<???>
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ABRAMS: Mr. Horner, if the administration believes that these are lies and myths, as they have said in a White House statement, I don‘t understand. I mean I expected them to say we‘re not going to prosecute him. But why shouldn‘t they, if he‘s lying under—to tell—in sworn testimony?

CHRISTOPHER HORNER, GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS ATTORNEY: Well, they certainly have the ability to go above the discretion of the United States attorney for the District of Columbia, who has really the right of first refusal on this. But the attorney general, John Ashcroft...
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ABRAMS: But Mr. Horner, I think the public sees something like the Martha Stewart case, where she‘s prosecuted for lying over something that‘s really you know somewhat irrelevant, but she still lied to federal investigators. And I think if the Bush administration is saying these are lies, they should put their money where their mouth is and prosecute him...
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ABRAMS: They‘re not going to. There‘s no—no Mr. Eddy, I‘m making a point here and I think it‘s an important point to be made, which is that if they‘re really going to pursue this, and they‘re going to go out and say he‘s lying, I don‘t want to just hear it in the media. I want to see it in a courtroom. If these are lies, if this is a man who is lying under oath, I want to see it.
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ESKEW: ... two members of the commission who said different things. So let‘s look at the public record here. And when you look at the public record, Dan, which is really what we have to address here today, I haven‘t used the words you‘ve used. I‘d use the words shifting loyalties. You know this is a man...

ABRAMS: Well I saw the word myths...
(CROSSTALK)
ABRAMS: ... I saw the word myths on the White House document.
(CROSSTALK)

ESKEW: ... I‘m not familiar with there being charges for creating myths. There certainly are fairytale aspects to some of this story, but no fairytale is complete without shifting story lines and this one has shifted a lot. You look at this man, what he said today, what he said two years ago to the press. You look at what he said in private to some members of the commission and then what he said today. Where I come from, when you shift your loyalties and when you shift your stories, you‘re called shifty...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4601235/
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:31 PM
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1. I think its more his inner lawyer, a-jonesin' for more trials
still, encouraging to see a war shill like Abrams wake up a little.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:34 PM
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2. Heh...I know that. I was just being vain. ;)
I do that every now and then.

;)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:42 PM
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4. on second thought, who's that wiry lawyer crouching down by the bushes?
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 02:43 PM by thebigidea
My gawd! You're being stalked by Dan Abrams!

Quick, start talking about Michael Jackson or something!
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 02:36 PM
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3. They won't charge him
because then they'd have to open the books to prove that he was lying. They do NOT want to open those books.

It doesn't matter what he said before. UNDER OATH is what counts.

Same reason Kissinger didn't sue Hitchens for libel over "The Trials of Henry Kissinger."
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:18 PM
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5. Of course not. But we should INSIST that anyone claiming he's dishonest
pursue perjury charges and bring their proof.

If not, then they should STFU.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:20 PM
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6. I agree absolutely!! nt
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:20 PM
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7. Condi is going to testify before the committee again
but NOT in public and NOT under oath. If she were just shy, the least she could do is testify in private under oath. Or, could she cause an impeachment by lying under oath?
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SmokeyBlues Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:27 PM
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8. Is he talking about Bush?
ESKEW: ... I‘m not familiar with there being charges for creating myths. There certainly are fairytale aspects to some of this story, but no fairytale is complete without shifting story lines and this one has shifted a lot. You look at this man, what he said today, what he said two years ago to the press. You look at what he said in private to some members of the commission and then what he said today. Where I come from, when you shift your loyalties and when you shift your stories, you‘re called shifty...

Things you can say when you know you have a large slice of the US media in your hip pocket.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:33 PM
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9. blm
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
news source.

Thank you.

DU Moderator
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:35 PM
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10. Sorry, I didn't know that was for broadcast transcripts, too.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:37 PM
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11. I saw the show yesterday
Abrams triple dogged dared the WH and it was a
BEAUTIFUL thing to watch.
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