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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:38 PM
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condi with Brokaw right now!
I cannot STAND her!

what a.............
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:40 PM
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1. LIAR!!!!!
"I have to uphold the separation of powers"
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:43 PM
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8. She certainly is lying..
the freaking bitch! Saying they were very active in the fight against Al Qaeda...when?? how long after?!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:44 PM
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11. "separation of powers"??? The 9-11 Commission is an EXECUTIVE ...
... Branch commission. Someone should revoke her PhD. She's a corrupt whore.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:40 PM
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2. asking her about exec privilege
why won't she?

her answer:

I would like nothing better to testify

prepared to talk anywhere, anytime, anyplace, but I must uphold separation of powers

it's the PRESIDENT that won't let me!

"I want the American people to know the story. that's why I'm here"

you LIAR

Brokaw is giving it to her about being on TV!!!!

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:42 PM
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4. What a crock of shit. Bush should be pushing her ass up to the mic.
this is utter bullshit. They (media) should refuse to air this.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:53 PM
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30. That's horseshit.
"Separation of powers", my ass. Brokaw should give it to her. I'd like to tell her what I think-if you don't like what's being said in the commission testimony, dear, get your ass over there and testify. What's the matter, sweetie, afraid to be put under oath? Got something to hide? Everyone else goes to testify, hell, even Rummy showed his face. Who the hell does she think she is? (I know what I think she is.) I am furious about this. How dare she show up on all these talk shows and won't go before the commission? I hate this woman. As much as I don't like to see anyone lose their job, she needs to be fired. NOW.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:41 PM
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3. She has the gall to insult the American people
with this bullshit.

What are you hiding, Condi? Why won't you talk to the commission in public like everybody else?

Why are you being a coward?
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:42 PM
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5. LIE

if bush told her to drag her lying ass down and testify, she couldn't say no.

god I loath this POS
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:42 PM
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6. NO!
There isn't a separation of power issue - its an INDEPENDENT COMMISSIONS, not/not a branch of the Legislature....
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:44 PM
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12. bingo!
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:45 PM
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18. most EXCELLENT point! you think of that?
also, it's a commission CREATED by the EXECUTIVE branc!!!

I thought of THAT!

there are HOW many sitting legislators on that commission?

ZEEEEE

ROW!!!!!!!!

where's the freaking CONFLICT?

this is an EXECUTIVE BODY meeting, right?
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:55 PM
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34. That is an excellent point.
Why doesn't someone bring this up tomorrow at that little asswipe Scottie's joke of a press briefing?
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:48 PM
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23. My same thought. WTF????
Even if this were a congressional commission, this would be a bullshit answer and we all know that.

But let's play her game for a second and pretend that separation of powers means you never testify under oath (just forget about the Clinton years for a moment). The question then becomes: what the hell are you smoking, Rice? This was a commission set up by the fucking nimrod that you call sir! It has nothing to do with the legislative nor the judicial branch.

Is this the best they have? Does Brokaw not even have enough integrity left to question this? Or is it that he's just too unintelligent to catch the glaring error?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:43 PM
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7. he's asking her about Clarke now
says other stuff, like China, Star Wars, was more important

she demurs, now disparaging him, with the 2002 background interview, saying he can't have it both ways

lying about increasing counterterrorism money....Clarke dealt with THAT lie today....they didn't appropriate the money til after 911

she LIES all the time!

says she met with Tenet every morning about it

what did they DO about it?

Brokaw does NO refutation

surprised?
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:44 PM
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13. Let her tell the families
that..They think the families are stupid since some of them took the "hush money".
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:45 PM
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15. condi on clarke
she referred to clarke's august 2002 memo as a "press interview"

that fucking LIAR!!!!

it was a promo press release -- no one knew who wrote it until the junta released it to faux

brokaw says nothing though

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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:56 PM
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36. actually it wasn't written
it was a conference call with five otehr journalists. Clarke was acting as a spokesperson for the NSC (as a "senior counter-terrorism expert") but he was to remain unnamed for perpetuity. The NSC broke the seal, with rice's joy, no doubt.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:45 PM
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17. I'm e-mailing to tell them unless they put her under oath
I ain't friggin' interested in what she has to say.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:49 PM
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25. Great...and give him..
the link to these threads so he gets an education.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:30 PM
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42. Dammit!
I didn't see this until after I sent the e-mail.
Should have thought of it myself, though. :(
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:43 PM
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9. Tom was tough on her - he didn't kiss her
:puke:

Didn't follow-up, let her talk for 5 minutes straight.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:43 PM
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10. Blah Blah Blah
Did anyone beleive that crap?

"I truly want to appear..." buy my uber-boss won't let me....
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Blasphemer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:47 PM
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21. What crap....
The POTUS won't allow his administration to be accountable to the American People for their failures and we are supposed to shrug and say "oh, ok"?
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:49 PM
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26. They'll be accountable
on Nov. 5th, when they're looking for work on the lecture cicuit....
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:45 PM
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14. You can tell she's lying
she keeps shaking her head in a No when she says yes... Lying sack of whale shit :grr:
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:54 PM
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33. yeah, her lips are moving
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:45 PM
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16. She won't help herself with that shit
Joe Schmoe will look at that and see a Stonewall.

"Go hangout. Take the hangout route."
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:46 PM
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19. She made a fool of herself
Omg that was so pathetic, her defense, geesh, they are lost
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:47 PM
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20. The bitch
needed deodorant bad. I could smell her nervous sweat through my TV screen. Man these folks are seriously rattled.
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:47 PM
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22. KERRY--I'm trying to hold it in but can't --where the fuck is he on this??
So NBC said blah blah and QXYZ said blah blah. Where the fuck is Kerry?? I know because I heard the report from his campaign--he doesn't want to get into this. WHAT??---slamming Rice for not appearing is "oh, so unpleasant".....fuck it. Dems are mad. This is the time to kick the slats out of this administration and we aren't going to touch it??? Goddamn it, that isn't why Dems flooded the polls and if he doesn't pick up this football and throw it, we workers here on the ground will not be able to get people out to vote. This Rice crap will go right over America's head if Kerry doesn't make something out of it.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:50 PM
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28. slap!
get a grip babs... you're hysterical!
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:50 PM
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29. I think the Dem's are doing the right thing
Let them drown in their own muck...

I think if the Dem's get too involved it will look too partisan

but this is just great... look at them drown in their own spin
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:56 PM
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35. Get a grip. Kerry doesn't have to get involved in this at all...
...Kerry needs to just let it play out and stay above the fray by acting more presidential than that little snot hiding out in the White House.

Let the NeoCons climb out of the cess-pool of their own making. Looks like the press is ready to keep shoving them back in.
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The Spirit of JFK Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:12 PM
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40. Turnaround
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 07:12 PM by The Spirit of JFK
Yes, plus Kerry has a too much connection with it all. He "voted for the war", he's worked with some of the commision, and Rand Beers is a friend of Clarke's.

Let him have the other Dems fight this one....do a litte trash talking of their own...for the party and keep Kerry looking gentlemanly and focused on the issues.

Remember when the GOP had Saxby Chamliss disparage Cleland? Well, turnaround is fair play....except WE can take the high road...will be honest, correct, fair, and make it abou the real issues.

So lets see if the Dems decide to wade into THIS one.
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:57 PM
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37. Rightfully keeping himself out of the fray
It would be political suicide to get involved in this. He's being smart by staying out of it. If you haven't noticed, Rice and the maladministration she's a part of are doing plenty to hang themselves.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:06 PM
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39. Kerry's positive "new direction" ads are the right approach now
You and I might find them wanting, but we're already converted. Those things were focus-tested on the undecided.

Kerry doesn't need to put up his dukes because the White House needs no help in knocking itself out over this. All these sleazy plays. All this stonewalling.

Kerry's starting to project a vision of sorts, and the White House is just trashing around in its own puke.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:48 PM
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24. The level of her constant trash talk on every TV channel
makes her appear hysterical, desperate, and completely unbelievable.

She needs to put her hand on the bible, take the oath and testify under oath, or SHUT UP.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:50 PM
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27. What phenomenal doublespeak!
"I'll answer any reporter's questions but I won't testify under oath to the 911 Commission."

In other words, Condi will lie to reporters (like she was lying to Brokaw) and she will lie to the 911 Commission.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:53 PM
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31. she didn't swear the first time she talked to them, did she?
if so, you KNOW she lied then

even if she didn't take an oath, she STILL lied.....she can't HELP it, cause the entire fundament of ALL their arguments is total BS!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:54 PM
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32. The regime never tells the truth ...
... even by mistake.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:04 PM
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38. Gee, my first question would have been...why won't your "boss' let you
testify???? What the hell is he trying to hide???

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pepsi Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:12 PM
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41. why?
If it is a question of separation of powers, why is it ok for Powell and the others to testify?

I don't get it.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:39 PM
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44. NSC is not approved by congress, and, as such, is NOT
subject to congressional dicta, unless the president allows.

ALSO, unless he/she was a member of the Clinton admin

they fought this, IIRC, during the inquisition, and lost in court

correct me if I'm wrong

what is CORRECT, though, is that NSC head Sandy Berger DID appear before congress, to refute a LIE told earlier by a thug shill (Downing) on MSNBC

course, the idiot host didn't know squat, and let it go

point is, the commission could subpoena her, thought about it, and, I hope, will get testy, GROW some testis, and SERVE her lying ass
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 10:52 PM
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45. Help me out, though -
Is this a Congressional commission? Didn't Bunnypants' people select these folks? Isn't this an independent commission, not affiliated with Congress?

Sorry for my ignorance on this.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 10:55 PM
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46. Oh, duh. I'm stupid
They were created by an act of Congress, but it's an independent commission.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/

I still don't see the tortured separation issue. Committee should subpoena.

Let's raise some hell on this.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:34 PM
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43. Hey,
you guys that are watching her with Brokaw, make your feelings known to NBC or MSNBC about

NO AIR TIME to Dr. Rice UNTIL SHE TESTIFIES UNDER OATH TO THE COMMITTEE AND TO THE PUBLIC...

(I mean to shout, sorry).

Big Media is giving her a forum to respond to people testifying under oath and she is not.

KICK
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