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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 05:59 PM
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Anyone hear John King and Wolf "Tag Team" Clarke? Saying he
has "things in his past which are questionable," "unstable" "contentious"..."argumentaive," "questionable," "trying to make a few dollars off his book," "loses his temper," "personal life has some odd questions"....yadda, yadda, yadda.

They took turns. At one point King would pump Clarke up saying that people who worked with him praised him, and Wolfie would then do the "unstable" routine, then King would "tear Clarke down" mantioning "sources who say....(my above quotes), then Wolfie would say "respected by his peers, many years of service, glowing reports about his handling of..."

King would pump Clarke up, then Wolf would tear him down, then King would tear Clarke down and Wolfie would pump him up....but in the end the picture of Clarke which I as an average US viewer would have was..."This Clarke person sounds really weird, why should we believe him?" (which of course was the point of the whole exchange)

It was amazing! They went on for about 20 minutes like this. I was shocked because I've tended to like much of John King's reporting.

But, it's all Media Control by the Whores and part of "PsyOps" anyway.

Clarke will go down as "damaged goods." Wait and see...:-(
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:01 PM
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1. And WQolfie said.. "Rand Beers from the Clinton admin"
Beers served Reagan, Bush1, Clinton & Bush2.. but of course Wolfie never said THAT..

Time to get out the CNN/PsyOps links again.. Bastards
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:03 PM
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8. The more they go after him instead of refuting his points
the worse they look, and it doesn't affect people's opinions at all.

Worst of all, C. Rice still hasn't shown up at the commission hearings.

I think most people are appalled at the way Clarke is being treated. I hope it's an eye-opener for anyone who still believes the lie about "compassionate conservatism."
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 08:47 PM
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22. I emailed Wolfe today.......
after that shameless POS news story. I was so mad! And he never mentioned that Clarke voted for Bush and considers his party affiliation to be Republican but we sure did hear all about Kerry/Beers/Clarke didn't we? I told him he should be ashamed of what he passes off as news these days. It was the worse piece of so-called journalism I had seen in a long time and that I wouldn't forget it and I was going to spread this around to everyone I know!
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:02 PM
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2. Don't think he'll go down at all...
he's too stable, too unswerving...and he looks the questioner straight in the eye when speaking.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:02 PM
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3. No one is saying he is lying
He will be on Larry King tonight to defend himself

Thompson tried the same thing, and was left with egg on his face

Incidently, remember CNN indicated that Pakistan was close to getting the number two AQ
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:02 PM
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4. woof woof, the attack dogs are loose. ...
Still not one damn thing about the content, only the character. Character assassination from the Bu$hites.
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RummyTheDummy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:03 PM
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5. King has been an overt Bush shill
Since the bloodless coup of 2000.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:03 PM
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6. un-fucking-believable - Wolf I hope you fucking rot in hell
and I mean, you are a traitor who covers up for the boy king...

I wish I could put my fist through your lying face...fuck you asshole!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:03 PM
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7. He'll have his chance on Larry King tonight
I'm looking forward to his rebuttals this evening. I heard that Rice had what sounded to me like an old fashioned hissy fit over Clarke's testimony. Okay, let her come before the committee under oath. And let them arrest Clarke for lying under oath, then. Hehehe.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:05 PM
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9. Ed Murrow is spinning in his grave
I wrote about this on another thread, and it was a vile example of what passes as 'reporting' by CNN: repeating smears and RNC talking points without refuting them.

They repeated the partisan charge when they both know he's a Republican, but they never shared that fact. The 'personal life' attack was the lowest point in CNN's history.

I'm still nauseated beyond words by this.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:07 PM
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10. But the only way they can make him damage goods is by attacking him when
he is not in the same room. Because when Clarke is in the same room with the idiots trying to tear him down. He blows them out of the water with reasoned and believal debate.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:07 PM
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11. rove isn't whispering 'anthrax' anymore....
it's a shout.

;-)
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:08 PM
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12. They accuse Clarke of having ulterior motives behind his testimony -
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 06:08 PM by stopbush
a book to sell, an ax to grind, etc.

Yet, the media - and the 9/11 Commission for that matter - don't question the motives of the serial liars from the bush administration! After all, these guys are confirmed liars on WMD, Iraq-al Qaeda connection, prescription drug cost, NCLB and on and on. But does anyone on the commission or in the media question Colin Powell's motives? He outright LIED to the world at the UN in his run-up to the illegal war. Do you hear anyone saying Powell has served under blah blah blah, followed by his huge negatives like the cover-up of My Lai and his more recent offenses? Nope. Not a word.

Why didn't asshole Lehman say to Powell, "you know, you gave false testimony at the UN a year ago. Why should we believe you?" Nope.

They all have ulterior motives for their lying testimony, principal of which are staying out of jail and/or being tried in the Hague for war crimes.

I hate rethugs!
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:08 PM
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13. Another reason the Daily Show is becoming the #1 news source
God I can't wait to see their coverage of all this.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:10 PM
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14. Twist on the Noose
First of all, most people, other than info junkies could give a rat's ass what CNN thinks. They are worried about gas prices, interest rates, employment, family matters, and to a lessening degree terrorist attacks.

CNN, Fux, and the rest just want butts in the seats. They are all about hype, making you angry, stirring up the pot, selling soap.

All that is important is that the story stays in the news. The more often the 'meme' is repeated, the more it can replicate. This is like 10 million in free ads for Kerry. That is why he is keeping his mouth shut and watching the cabal twist on a noose of their own making.

This is all good. Clarke was magnificent today. Have a cocktail. It's a good week so far.

O
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:11 PM
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15. Maybe they thought they were talking about Wesley Clark.
Yes, I'm still beating that horse. :)
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:16 PM
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16. Hey Wolf, I have sources that say
that you can make up sources to say anything you want.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:16 PM
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17. Wow...I saw that report totally differently
You have to keep things in perspective. Wolfie is an ULTRA Bush fan. The fact that he'd allow anything critical to be said about Bush at all is a big step. And the stuff King said...I beleive that was more of a response to Wolf when he asked about Condi being fuming. "Yes, the White House will tell you there are hings in his past which are questionable," etc.

I thought it was a surprisingly ominous report, coming from where it did.

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chickflick Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:19 PM
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18. [Clarke] Iraq Action 'Undermined Terror War'
Iraq Action 'Undermined Terror War'

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9069965%255E1702,00.html

Published: Mar 24, 2004
Author: By Jim Mannion in Washington


A FORMER White House counter-terrorism chief has accused US President George W. Bush of undermining the war on terrorism by invading Iraq and not taking the al-Qaeda threat seriously enough before the September 11 attacks.

In stunning testimony to the official inquiry into the 2001 terror strikes, Richard Clarke, whose new book has angered the Bush administration, apologised to relatives of the September 11 victims saying that the US Government had failed them.

Clarke said Iraq was "the reason I am strident in criticism of the President of the United States."

"By invading Iraq, the President of the United States has greatly undermined the war on terrorism," he said, silencing the room.

Clarke, who quit his White House post last year and is now in the administration firing line over his book, reaffirmed accusations that Bush had underestimated the threat from Osama bin Laden's group.

*more*
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:54 PM
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19. "argumentative", "loses his temper"
Hey, where have I heard that character assassination before? Do they think Clarke is a governor from Vermont running for President?
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 08:08 PM
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20. Wolfowitz comes off looking really really bad in Clarke's book
no wonder he's leading the right wing slander machine. Clarke made the point that every time he mentioned al Qaeda in Wolfowitz's presence, Wolfie tried to turn the discussion towards Iraq, inspite of all the evidence that Clarke was presenting. It's as if Wolfie (and certain other right wingers) had blinders on and were hell bent on invading Iraq. 9-11 just gummed up their plans temporarily.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 08:14 PM
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21. Armitage didn't deny that Wolf was centered on Iraq
He said "by the end of the discussions, we were all in agreement". But when asked directly if Wolf.. was initially intent on going to Iraq, he said...you need that kind of input in a discussion.

Hope a lot of people watched and listened to this hearing today.
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