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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:28 PM
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Official 9/11 Investigation thread #5
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:29 PM
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1. Why did Fox news get slammed?
Something about a transcript of an interview Clark gave...

:headbang:
rocknation
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:34 PM
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11. Fox dragged (Drudged?) out an old Clarke interview...
in which Clarke speaks highly of Bush* (he worked for him, fer Christ's sake, and he says his words were vetted by the WH!).
Big Jim Thompson waved the article in the air and said Clarke's credibility was now in question.
As far as I can paraphrase,
KerrEy just slammed Fox for being so petty as to break into the coverage of the hearings with the old Clarke interview.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:34 PM
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12. I can hear Insannity from here
I can hear Insannity yelling from here in the office
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:42 PM
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35. CAN SOMEONE please throw a c-span link on here
I'm having a hell of a time with my computer.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:46 PM
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39. Will This Help ???
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:58 PM
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72. another link
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:30 PM
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2. Kerrey should shut the fuck up.
Castigating Clarke for saying that invading Iraq increased terrorism.
Whats he trying to do?
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:37 PM
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19. I didn't hear that.
I could have missed it.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:44 PM
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38. He arrogantly stated that he doent agree with him(Clarke) that
the invasion made terrorism worse.
What a pompous ass!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:53 PM
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57. Kerrey put the backgrond memo to rest
I'll take that in a trade.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:31 PM
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3. thanks for starting a new one :)
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:32 PM
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4. Iraq Government was not involved in the 93 WTC Attack
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:33 PM
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5. Boy that made my day ...
"Clarke's integrity intact"
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:33 PM
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6. We have two #5 threads going...let's move over to the other
one. I'll ask the Mods to lock this one.

Thanks
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:34 PM
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"No substantive differences between testimony and book"

:thumbsup:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:35 PM
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14. Would you like some Rice with your 9/11 comission hearing? n/t
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:34 PM
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7. Ben Veniste wants Rice
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:34 PM
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10. Oh wasn't that sweet?????

Body Slam!!!!!
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:39 PM
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27. Did you hear Clarke say quietly,
"That might not be a good deal".

Plainly saying that he (Ben-Venist) either ain't gonna get Rice or she ain't gonna say shit.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:34 PM
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Ben-Veniste no inconsistency in Clarke's testimony and book
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:34 PM
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8. BUHWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Where's Condi?
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emalejim9 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:34 PM
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9. Sorry for the dupe
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:35 PM
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15. No problem! I've asked Mods to lock this one and we'll move
to yours.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:36 PM
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17. I don't see the other
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:41 PM
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32. I know! It appears to be gone or I can't find it. I guess we'll
stay here, then until the Mods lock us!

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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:35 PM
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13. What is with Thompson?
Doesn't he get how things work? What an idiot!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:36 PM
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18. same f'ing question, get over it Thompson
Clarke is not going to say the administration asked him to lie.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:41 PM
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34. thompson
it's like he has no clue how govt works.

clearly willing to look like a moran to try to slam clinton.

he succeeded.

he came off like an moran!
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:35 PM
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16. "I'll cede my time to Roemer if he'll cede his time with Condi to me..."
chuckles in the audience
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:37 PM
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20. more like open laughter!!!
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 03:37 PM by ChavezSpeakstheTruth
Woo hooo!!!

Clarke said "that may not be a good deal"
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:40 PM
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29. Clarke just shut up thompson but good
It's all politics, wild cheering from the gallery.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:37 PM
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21. "It's not a question about morality, it's a question about politics'
gets applause
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:38 PM
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23. Thompson is an @sshole
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:39 PM
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26. Slam-Dunk! Thompson sheepishly exits!
Way to go, Dickie Boy!
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:39 PM
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28. Again, Clarke kick Thompson's butt.
..Thompson ran away saying..I'm not a Washington insider, I'm from the midWest....
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:59 PM
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77. What a prick!
who is this Thompson prick? Guess he's upset that his "dog and pony" show is ain't going as scheduled. Things getting alittle hot for Thompson--what a major asshole.
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emalejim9 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:38 PM
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22. Time to go to lunch...
Pacific time here...I am curious to see how the radio pukes are spinning this.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:38 PM
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24. I don't think it's
a question of morality at all. It's a question of politics.

Thompson left speechless again. Then he whined, "I'm not an insider. I'm from the Midwest."

Buh-bye
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:38 PM
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25. Clarke "a question of politics"
gets more applause!!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:40 PM
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30. Roemer brings up the Predator drones
and whehter or not the armed ones were 'blocked'
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:40 PM
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31. Thompson must enjoy pain to go after Clarke again.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:41 PM
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33. obviously LOL
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:42 PM
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36. Clarke handled his questions with ease n/t
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:44 PM
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37. He is one cool customer.
I'd hate like hell to have to interrogate him.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:46 PM
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40. Clarke kicks their a$$ every single time.
He knows these guys and he knows how to screw them but good.

Everytime they get smarmy on him, he leaves them whimpering.

He's awesome.


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RoundRockD Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:46 PM
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42. Have any of the Bushies gotten applause? n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:51 PM
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53. Not that I can think of, but Sec. Cohen got one when he left yesterday n/t
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:46 PM
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41. Standing-O as Clarke is thanked....
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:54 PM
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60. Did you see the 9/11 Widows rush up to him.....they were
thrilled, I'm sure, that finally someone spoke the truth! Looked like they wanted to hug and kiss him!

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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:46 PM
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43. Cube dwellers...catch summary on PBS News Hour w/Jim Lehrer
Last night they spent half an hour on testimony from yesterday, and that was without all of today's fireworks. It's going to be good!

Out here, it comes on at 7pm on PBS. Check your listings.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:47 PM
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44. Clarke gets a standing ovation from the audience
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 03:48 PM by maddezmom
boy the heads at the WH must be spinning.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:47 PM
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45. More than I could have hope for
Fucking brilliant.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:49 PM
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47. I know - it went beyond expectations
He made history...I'm so happy.
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:47 PM
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46. Better than sex?
I need to go smoke a ciggie
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:49 PM
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48. I am in total awe of Richard Clarke!
He handed the repub panel members their heads AND their asses on a platter of truth, it was incredible!
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:54 PM
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61. Armitage opened defending Condi....
and attacking BenVeniste. That guy needs hair and better teeths.

BenVeniste now....We didn't ask for you, we asked Rice to be here.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:49 PM
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49. Uncle Fester is up next in place of condi n/t
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:49 PM
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50. Get ready for the talking points.
Here they come.

Let's debunk them, shall we. :puke:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:52 PM
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54. it can all be summed up as Clinton's fault
:puke: :puke:
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:50 PM
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51. I just ran to see Faux
poor fuckers are trying to act like they did nothing wrong. Point out that Kerrey is "former Democratic senator" and that the background briefing is like Bucky Rice not testifying, but I'm not sure how that worked. Shepard Smith must be too smart for me.
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RoundRockD Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:57 PM
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67. They're stilll running the story. Surprise! n/t
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:51 PM
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52. The families of 9-11 LOVE HIM
and that will cause * more and more problems. :)
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:53 PM
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58. Armitage doesn't even have a written statement.
Just rambling.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:52 PM
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55. what did armitage say that was funny?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #55
62. something about not being able to read his note
cuz he wrote them in the car.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:53 PM
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56. Clarke's one liners are GREAT
So what if the drone crashes, the pilot will return OK :)
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:54 PM
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59. Armitage up now
It took me a while to find it. NPR stoppped carrying it. I don't get C-SPAN 3. It's on CNN.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:56 PM
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65. MSNBC also....n/t
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:57 PM
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68. I'm listening to an NPR stream right now
I'm a cube dweller
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:02 PM
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86. Bad idea sending Armitage...big a$$hole..
the bushies only asked the arrogant idiot (they'll laughing at him)...
asked him 10 days ago to take Condi's place.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:55 PM
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63. "Transition went smoothly"????? I guess Armitage computer keys were there
Remember that nonsense?
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:57 PM
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66. Excuse me!
Armitage is there representing Condi Rice, but he's been there all along, but he was not in on the initial briefings...

So WTF is he doing there?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:56 PM
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64. Anyone notice that Armatige didn't apologize or recognize the families?
He jumped right in with the rightwing meme.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:58 PM
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70. Was he called back or did he request more face time?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:00 PM
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80. He was sent by the White House as Condi's liar...
I guess because they think he can do it better.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:58 PM
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74. Classic example of the pukes..
lying his ass off..They wanted Condi, got him...said he was advised 10days ago..Gee, funny, the team wasn't aware of this!...Rice shit scared!!
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:57 PM
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69. Hell, I've been over on another thread by myself.
I wondered why no one else was posting, just thought everyone was dumbstruck by Clarke's brillance.
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:01 PM
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84. How the heck did you find it? I was looking for the other #5
earlier, thinking the Mods were going to lock us as a dupe! LOL
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:58 PM
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71. Everyone call up FOX and complain on their unethical
behavior. I'm so glad kerry threw mud on their faces!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:58 PM
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73. Armitage was advised 10 days ago he would sub for Condi
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 03:59 PM by maddezmom
then he said a week. Hmmm, seems like the commission knew much later.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:58 PM
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75. Did Clark remind any of you of George C. Scott in "Patton"?
It finally dawned upon me.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:01 PM
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83. You mean Armitage....classic imitation or fraud
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #83
87. No, Clark, especially when
he was sqinting his eyes at one of those Repub tools who was questioning his integrity, right before he blew them away.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:03 PM
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92. thats great bobby!
Right on the money too!
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:02 PM
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88. LOL - I just posted that in another thread.

I kept seeing Patton while he was testifying.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:59 PM
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76. Is he saying
that Condi wanted to be there but couldn't? What the hell is that all about?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:59 PM
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79. Sounds like it...yep
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:02 PM
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89. Condi Rice can't be there because she's
too busy lying her ass off on Goodmorning America, CNN, or whatever.

Beotch.


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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:03 PM
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90. No, Condi doesn't want to show..
she's trying to use "executive privelege"..but it's BS..they want her!
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:04 PM
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94. their "argument", such that it is,,
is that Condi's testimony would violate the principle of separation of powers because a congressional committee shouldn't have authority to call a presidential cabinet member to testify. The others are subject to congressional approval so they can be called. Bullshit, of course, but there it is.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:59 PM
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78. Ben-Veniste: The WH is not Cooperating
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:01 PM
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82. and they are getting called on the bullshit
Ben-Veniste is a smooth operator.
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:04 PM
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93. He sure is! He asked Armitage, in effect, WTF you doing ...
here since you were not even in the Admin. until March, 2000, so you weren't in attendance at any of the early NSC briefings. LOL
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:02 PM
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85. Deep Throat was right!
These guys are not very smart.

Sending a buffoon to say, "You're the lawyer; I'm not" was a big time blunder.

This Uncle Fester clone (Armitage) makes Bush* look smart!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:03 PM
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91. uncle fester and about as smart 2
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:00 PM
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81. If the Whitehouse wanted to
cooperate, Rice would be here.

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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:04 PM
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95. they ALL should be
held in "contempt".
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:04 PM
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96. "If Dr. Rice were here, I would ask her" ...this is funny
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:05 PM
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97. hammer it home
Rice won't testify, Rice won't testify
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:06 PM
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99. It's great!
She's being Riced in absentia.
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:06 PM
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98. Bringing up Condi's
statement about not knowing that terrorists could use planes as missiles. Then she said she misspoke in private. Armitage can't really answer for her. What is he doing there?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:06 PM
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101. picking his nose?
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:06 PM
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100. "Privately, Rice told us she misspoke"
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 04:07 PM by Cush
*cough* bullshit *cough" Misspoke my ass
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:06 PM
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102. LOL! Condi told them she misspoke re using planes as weapons
and wanted to correct her statements that she had made publicly.

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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:07 PM
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103. New Thread
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