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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:01 PM
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Hallallulleah!!!!!!!!!! The Silver Bullit Has Just Been Fired
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 03:02 PM by ThomWV
God Bless Richard Clarke

"By invading Iraq President Bush has undmined the war on Terror"
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:01 PM
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1. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:02 PM
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2. I almost fell over!!!!!!!!!!
HOLY MOLEY :bounce:
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:02 PM
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3. that was incredible!
loved the stare at the end... and the silence.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:02 PM
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5. That was fucking fantastic
SLAP MY BITCH UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:10 PM
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23. Hope that's the lead sound bite on the news.
That one's worthy of a wav. file.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 05:11 PM
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53. I hope so too!
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:32 PM
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56. You win! ABC led with the apology
Also mentioned that Clarke is now an ABC consultant?? if I didn't mishear...
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:03 PM
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There was a 15 second pause...
listening on the radio, I thought it had been cut off for a minute.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:18 PM
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28. I thought the same
my first thought was that Powell the Younger had flipped the big FCC switch in the sky.

Way to go Richard! You just sold a copy of your book to me

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:21 PM
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44. The stare at the end
I hope that Thompson and his little friends remember that stare, and that silence.

I believe that this was Mr. Clarke's "bring it on", and they haven't heard the last of him.

Julie
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:02 PM
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4. what did he say?!
link? I don't have tv or radio here!
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ThirdWheelLegend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:03 PM
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9. exactly what is quoted in the first post
slam
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:05 PM
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13. HOT DAMN!
:bounce:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:16 PM
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27. Latest statement from Bug-eyes Babs!
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 03:20 PM by ronnykmarshall
Holding her head and moaning "oh my beautiful mind, oh my beautiful mind!"
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:50 PM
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49. LOL!
For those who do not know what Ronny is talking about...

"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths and how many, what day it's gonna happen? It's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" - Barbara Bush

Queen Mum Barbara Pierce Bush must be furious that her lowly subjects are behaving so willfully!

I would love to see that smug elitist's face as Clarke tells the world that Bush has undermined the war on terror.

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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:56 PM
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51. Thanks a lot, Ronny-
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 04:57 PM by comsymp
I've been trying to discreetly keep DU up while at work today- you royally farked that for me- fortunately, it's nearly 5...

coworkers curious about my little solitary snarf, now...
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:32 PM
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57. Glad to help!
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ihaveaquestion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:06 PM
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17. Try Cspan radio
www.cspan.org
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:02 PM
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6. Something specific?
Too many (and too long of) threads for me to keep up with.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:03 PM
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7. What did he say?
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:04 PM
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11. he said that invading Iraq
undermined the war on terrorism and was a mistake. The same thing that Dean, Clark, and lots of people here and lots of sane people elsewhere have been saying.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:06 PM
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16. it was a freaking HUGE MISTAKE
he poked a stick into a hornet's nest. The biggest American foreign policy blunder EVER.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:36 PM
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58. Who has that WONDERFUL CARTOON
of *dimwit poking the hornet's nest?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:04 PM
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12. look here
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:03 PM
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8. That moment of silence afterward was deafening.
nt.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:19 PM
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30. Nice bookshelf!
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:39 PM
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48. You have a beautiful eye.
lol.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:03 PM
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10. These are historic days folks...
Devastating - The room was stunned to total silence!!!
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:05 PM
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14. Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead!
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:05 PM
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15. Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead!
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:08 PM
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18. he squashed that asshole like a bug! It was dead quiet!
awesome
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:08 PM
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19. *does the Dean scream*
YEEEAAAGGHHH!!!

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:09 PM
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20. there ya go....a Daniel Ellsberg monent!
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 03:10 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:09 PM
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21. now reTHUG committee members are hammering him about
'why didn't you say that during our first 15 hours of questioning?'

Clarke: 'The committee never asked me !'

'I answered ALL the questions the committee asked me, for over 6 hours, as a member of the bush* administration'

committee member: 'we didn't have those memos, and condi refused to testify, and she had her assistant answer our questions in written form, rather than testify. So maybe that is why we never asked the right questions.'



THAT reflects the horror of the committee, loaded with bushies....
There is a LOT that the reTHUG members are doing to stop this committee from asking bush* and his staff questions about 9/11....

yes, bush*...WE THE PEOPLE have questions.....
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:09 PM
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22. beautiful
so much packed into a little quote.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:11 PM
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24. Wow!!!!!!!
That sounds good!
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:11 PM
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25. Wow--you could have heard a pin drop!!
the stunned silence after Clarke's statement was amazing! What a moment in history!
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:16 PM
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26. Anyone notice Lehman left his seat
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 03:25 PM by demdem
Probably went to call the WH an apologize to Rove that he allowed Clarke hit it out of the park.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:19 PM
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29. "Sorry, Karl--I got my ass handed to me.."
Kissinger's boy inadvertenly gave Clarke his punchline.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:19 PM
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31. does anyone know
where there is/will be a transcript of the hearings?
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:56 PM
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52. yes - here is Clarke's response to Lehman and the profound statement
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 04:59 PM by jean
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/24/politics/24CND-PTEX.html?pagewanted=print&position=

LEHMAN: Thank you. Dick, since you and I first served 28 years ago in the MBFR delegation, I have genuinely been a fan of yours. I've watched you labor without fear of favor in a succession of jobs where you really made a difference. And so when you agreed to spend as much time as you did with us in, as you say, 15 hours, I was very hopeful. And I attended one of those all-day sessions and read the other two transcripts, and I thought they were terrific. I thought here we have a guy who can be the Rosetta Stone for helping this commission do its job, to help to have the American people grasp what the dysfunctional problems in this government are. And I thought you let the chips fall where they may. You made a few value judgments which could be debated. But by and large, you were critical of the things, institutions, and people that could have done better and some that did very badly. And certainly the greater weight of this criticism fell during the Clinton years simply because there were eight of them and only 7 1/2 months of the Bush years. I don't think you, in the transcripts that we have of your classified interviews, pulled punches in either direction. And, frankly, a lot of my questioning this past two days has been drawn from some of the things that you articulated so well during the Clinton years, particularly, because they stretched from the first, as you pointed out, attempt by Saddam to assassinate President Bush 41 right up through the end of the administration. But now we have the book. And I've published books. And I must say I am green with envy at the promotion department of your publisher.

LEHMAN: I never got Jim Thompson to stand before 50 photographers reading your book. And I certainly never got 60 Minutes to coordinate the showing of its interview with you with 15 network news broadcasts, the selling of the movie rights, and your appearance here today. So I would say, Bravo. (LAUGHTER) Until I started reading those press reports, and I said this can't be the same Dick Clarke that testified before us, because all of the promotional material and all of the spin in the networks was that this is a rounding, devastating attack -- this book -- on President Bush. That's not what I heard in the interviews. And I hope you're going to tell me, as you apologized to the families for all of us who were involved in national security, that this tremendous difference -- and not just in nuance, but in the stories you choose to tell -- is really the result of your editors and your promoters, rather than your studied judgment, because it is so different from the whole thrust of your testimony to us. And similarly, when you add to it the inconsistency between what your promoters are putting out and what you yourself said as late as August '05, you've got a real credibility problem. And because of my real genuine long-term admiration for you, I hope you'll resolve that credibility problem, because I'd hate to see you become totally shoved to one side during a presidential campaign as an active partisan selling a book.

CLARKE: Thank you, John. (LAUGHTER) Let me talk about partisanship here, since you raise it. I've been accused of being a member of John Kerry's campaign team several times this week, including by the White House. So let's just lay that one to bed. I'm not working for the Kerry campaign. Last time I had to declare my party loyalty, it was to vote in the Virginia primary for president of the United States in the year 2000. And I asked for a Republican ballot.

CLARKE: I worked for Ronald Reagan with you. I worked for the first President Bush. And he nominated me to the Senate as an assistant secretary of state, and I worked in his White House, and I've worked for this President Bush. And I'm not working for Senator Kerry. Now, the fact of the matter is, I do co-teach a class with someone who works for Senator Kerry. That person is named Randy Beers. Randy Beers and I have worked together in the federal government and the White House and the State Department for 25 years. Randy Beers worked in the White House for Ronald Reagan. Randy Beers worked in the White House for the first President Bush, and Randy Beers worked in the White House for the second President Bush. And just because he is now working for Senator Kerry, I am not going to disassociate myself from one of my best friends and someone who I greatly respect and worked with for 25 years. And, yes, I will admit, I co-teach a class at the Harvard University and Georgetown University with Mr. Beers. That, I don't think, makes me a member of the Kerry campaign. The White House has said that my book is an audition for a high- level position in the Kerry campaign. So let me say here as I am under oath, that I will not accept any position in the Kerry administration, should there be one -- on the record, under oath. Now, as to your accusation that there is a difference between what I said to this commission in 15 hours of testimony and what I am saying in my book and what media outlets are asking me to comment on, I think there's a very good reason for that. In the 15 hours of testimony, no one asked me what I thought about the president's invasion of Iraq. And the reason I am strident in my criticism of the president of the United States is because by invading Iraq -- something I was not asked about by the commission, it's something I chose write about a lot in the book -- by invading Iraq the president of the United States has greatly undermined the war on terrorism.

(after Clarke said the last words, he focused his eye full on Lehman and did not blink - his eyes were wide, dark and fearsome. His face remained serene - no scowling. There was a looong silence following his last words.)



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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:49 PM
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60. Thanks for posting this!
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:20 PM
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32. so...
the war on terror was undermined...

meaning what...?

bush is a fuck up...? (i already know that - i think most here know that)...

that the war on terror ought not be undermined...?

but rather instead be allowed to go ahead full scale...?

...(oh i see - they mean a better planned war)...

that certainly is not what i want - i am not very easily impressed...

love impresses me...

this (more war on terror - they will even continue to use the republicans name for it) is what the people supposedly on our side have planned for us - more war - i think that really sucks...

i don't like war - no more war...!



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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:21 PM
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33. And there was complete silence for
almost a full minute! I think everyone in the chamber was in shock as that sunk in. And it makes me proud, once again, to be a Howard Dean Democrat!
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:21 PM
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34. and....
what was the question which illicited that answer?
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:23 PM
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35. It was about the difference in tone
between the book and the press conference that chimpy and crew trotted out today (by Clarke). And also why the tone was different in prior closed door testimony versus the book.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:24 PM
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37. Lehman made a long speech about how Clarke said a lot of things
in the past few days that he never said previously, such as in his testimony to the Joint Cong. 9/11 Invest. Comm. Why is he talking about Iraq now? Why did he sound like he supported the bush admin in Time mag? Etc.

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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:26 PM
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39. great googley-moogley

"DEWEY BEATS TRUMAN"
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ezee Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:29 PM
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41. Kerry trounced FOX NEWS
did you hear how he slamed them on how they are not FAir And BAlanced!!
it was Great
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:06 PM
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62. Bob Kerrey, not John Kerry n/t
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:23 PM
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36. Thanks for the news! Can't wait to see it spun tonight.
This is WONDERFUL.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:24 PM
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38. Pretzel alert! Pretzel alert!
*'s gonna be hitting the sauce tonight.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:28 PM
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40. Stunning
Absolutely stunning
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:33 PM
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42. Bet the freepers have their wheels coming off right about now
FAUX News is "Occasional Fair & Balance" said by Kerrey after FOX had slammed Clarke.

The FBI let the bin Laden fly out of the county without an interrogation.

And Clarke statement about junior undermining terrorism
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:41 PM
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43. the shot heard around the world
"By invading Iraq President Bush has undmined the war on Terror" - Richard Clarke


so, what now? they unthaw OBL?

pull ronnie's plug?

it's scary having to deal with the retribution and retaliation of pseudo-leaders/good ol'boys
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:32 PM
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45. The testimony was better than my highest hopes
Mr. Clarke was the ONLY PERSON to apologize to the nation for what happened on September 11th. What's more, he offered his personal apology for "failing".

This is HUGE.

His comments about the Iraq war "undermining the war on terror" was equally huge.

This man, and his testimony, are the * administration's biggest nightmare.

Julie
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:34 PM
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46. I kept thinking "this is the kind of guy we WANT in government"
regardless of their political affiliation. Someone who respects the truth, respects the law, and is a TRUE patriot.

The man is rock solid. I want more people like him in our government and like I said, I don't care what their party affiliation is if they're like him.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:38 PM
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47. No wonder Cheney kept him "out of the loop"
They couldn't permit someone who respects law and the truth in that circle of corruption.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 05:52 PM
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54. Julie, I missed his apology
Do you or anyone else have that to post? I really want to read it.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:55 PM
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61. From the link in Jean's post #52
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 06:58 PM by 54anickel
CLARKE: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Because I have submitted a written statement today, and I've previously testified before this commission for 15 hours, and before the Senate-House Joint Inquiry Committee for six hours, I have only a very brief opening statement. I welcome these hearings because of the opportunity that they provide to the American people to better understand why the tragedy of 9/11 happened and what we must do to prevent a reoccurance. I also welcome the hearings because it is finally a forum where I can apologize to the loved ones of the victims of 9/11. To them who are here in the room, to those who are watching on television, your government failed you, those entrusted with protecting you failed you and I failed you. We tried hard, but that doesn't matter because we failed. And for that failure, I would ask -- once all the facts are out -- for your understanding and for your forgiveness. With that, Mr. Chairman, I'll be glad to take your questions.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:53 PM
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50. Amazing how shocking the obvious can be to dimwits
like 2/3 of the congresscritters who voted for IWR
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:29 PM
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55. The president of the US has greatly undermined the war on terrorism.
"By invading Iraq, the president of the United States has greatly undermined the war on terrorism."

"By invading Iraq, the president of the United States has greatly undermined the war on terrorism."

"By invading Iraq, the president of the United States has greatly undermined the war on terrorism."

"By invading Iraq, the president of the United States has greatly undermined the war on terrorism."

"By invading Iraq, the president of the United States has greatly undermined the war on terrorism."

"By invading Iraq, the president of the United States has greatly undermined the war on terrorism."



I will check the tape later, but I gots to know how many seconds of silence followed. I see from 15 secs to one minute above, but I'm sure it's fifteen that felt like sixty. That was great live television. I'll bet it was 12 or 13, IIRC.

Also, I think this nasty thing about Faux and their commissioner shill is that the 'press conference' was actually a 'backgound' discussion with some (?others?) reporters, not for attribution to a named source. That is, unless you're Faux and need to balance the scales back your way by violating the sacred journalists' ethic by blowing the confidence of a source. Brit and Bob need to get their rulebook straight. Or not.

I only caught part of what Kerrey was saying, but I think that was the drift.

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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:38 PM
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59. Clarke was in the drivers seat. He smoked .
put all the Repug character assasins in their place.
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