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whitestar Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 02:55 PM
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BREAKING SPECIAL REPORT FROM 9-11 HEARINGS
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 02:59 PM by whitestar
DOJ Asked FBI Translator To Change Pre 9-11 Intercepts


Washington, DC -- March 24, 2004 --12:15 EST -- FBI translator, Sibel Edmonds, was offered a substantial raise and a full time job in order to not go public that she had been asked by the Department of Justice (DOJ) to retranslate and adjust the translations of subject intercepts that had been received before September 11, 2001 by the FBI and CIA.

Edmonds, a ten year U.S. citizen who has passed a polygraph examination, speaks fluent Farsi and Turkish and had been working part time with the FBI for six months-- commencing in December, 2001.

In a 50 reporter scrum in front of some 12 news cameras, Edmonds said "Attorney General John Ashcroft told me 'he was invoking State Secret Privilage and National Security' when I told the FBI I wanted to go public with what I had translated from the pre 9-11 intercepts".

http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=50

This could be the "smoking gun"

whitestar

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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 02:57 PM
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1. Adjusted how?
From what to what?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:00 PM
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2. Thanks. Some links on Sibel Edmonds:
Whistleblower Coming In Cold From the F.B.I.
http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=8516

Sibel Edmonds says she was shocked at the lack of security in the F.B.I.’s counterintelligence squad when she went to work there shortly after Sept. 11. But when she spoke up, she was canned. Gail Sheehy tells her story.

FBI Employee Blows Whistle on Suspicious Activities by Coworker
http://www.thememoryhole.org/spy/edmonds.htm

Lost in Translation
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/25/60minutes/main526954.shtml

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:01 PM
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3. Wonder if this could be the equivalent of Alex Butterfield
revealing that tape recordings of Nixon's conversations in the Oval Office were made? (during the Watergate period)

Just a thought.


:nuke:
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:07 PM
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21. Good comparison.
Edmonds better get a bodyguard.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:08 PM
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4. This is truly explosive! More from Edmonds today:
"My translations of the pre 9-11 intercepts included (terrorist) money laundering, detailed and date specific information enough to alert the American people, and other issues dating back to 1999 which I won't go into right now."

Incredibly, Edmonds said "The senate Judiciary Committee, and the 911 Commission have heard me testify for lengthy periods of time time (3 hours) about very specific plots, dates, airplanes used as weopons, and specific idividuals and activities."

This explosive information has been kept under wraps by the White House, CIA, FBI, and DOJ since Edmond's 60 Minutes interview segment.

The former FBI translator told tomflocco.com that "translators before me had ongoing personal relationships with the subjects or targets of the FBI and DOJ pre 9-11 investigations linked to intercepts and other intelligence in June - July - August, just prior to the attacks."

...

"This whole situation is outrageous and I am going public," said Edmonds, adding "I am currently being advised by counsel. Thank you."

http://www.tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=50

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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:10 PM
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5. Truth tellers are rushing into the lime light. Amazing. Just amazing.
I'm listening to Richard Clarke live on the 9/11 commission hearings and wondering how the GOP is going to survive the pitchfork and torch bearing American public in NYC at the September convention.

Kerry can pick his administration now. And doesn't have to be Bush-lite. But he will anyway. Shit.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:10 PM
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6. Holy crap!!!
Please get legs! Please get legs! Please get legs!
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:12 PM
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7. wow, this lady needs to be careful
no flying in small aircraft or driving alone at night. she's prime to be silkwooded.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:14 PM
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9. this isn't new.......I remember reading about this at DU a long time ago,
didn't I?

hope something becomes of it this time.........
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:24 PM
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11. this is much more:
She's going public today with the revelation that the Department of Justice asked her to change her pre-9/11 translations which included "date specific information enough to alert the American people", and that the commissions have heard her testify as to "very specific plots, dates, airplanes used as weopons, and specific idividuals and activities."
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:14 PM
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8. BREAKING: this is a Rove WMDistraction from Dick A.Clarke testimony
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 03:21 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:21 PM
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10. woah
Edited on Wed Mar-24-04 03:24 PM by nu_duer
that's the effect reading the above posts, and then yours had on me

don't know what to think, but I'm damn sure rove and the rest of the criminals aren't just sitting back watching things fall apart...

you are correct, any distraction should be viewed with extreme skepticism
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:27 PM
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12. I don't see it as a distraction
I see it as an addition.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:28 PM
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13. absolutely not
Reading all of Edmond's statement, This is even more damning than Clarke.

When a house of cards collapses, many things hit the ground at the same time.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:18 PM
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25. I don't see one article about this anywhere. It's not in google news.
There are articles about Edmonds raising suspicions about a co-worker being a spy but this appears to be new.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:33 PM
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17. Kristen Breitweiser arranged to have Edmonds speak
to the assembled media after Tenet's testimony.

Not a distraction. Just the 9/11 families trying to squeeze some real news into the proceedings.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:28 PM
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14. This explains Ashcroft's timely and extensive gall bladder operation.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:30 PM
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15. That was my first thought!
That hypocritical SOB!
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:33 PM
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16. I'm Skeptical
This strikes me as just a little too pat. Plus, can they really be that stupid? Bribing a translator? I mean, they are stupid, but they aren't stupid in this way, or they wouldn't have gotten this far.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:34 PM
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18. THis story has been around for quite a while,
at least over a year.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:39 PM
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19. No. Edmonds is coming forward today with new revelations.
Edmonds had not before claimed that the DOJ had asked her to change pre-9/11 translations which included "detailed and date specific information enough to alert the American people." This is new. She's testified, and the revelation has been bottled up, and she's fed up.

"This whole situation is outrageous and I am going public," said Edmonds, adding "I am currently being advised by counsel. Thank you."

http://tomflocco.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=50
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whitestar Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 05:35 PM
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23. Correct
This is the first mention of the DOJ making an attempt to bribe Ms. Edmonds. And that is a strong legal word "bribe".

My own opinion is if she is willing to retain an attorney at this point in time, still attend the hearings on her own, and then be asked to do an interview by Kristen Breitweiser, she must have something to contribute.

whitestar
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 03:49 PM
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20. Yes, they are that stupid.
But obviously the Republicans are conspiring to destroy themselves because they are really so clever.

Jesus.
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Aquarian_Conspirator Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:13 PM
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28. How stupid can a 10,000 lb Gorilla be?
As stupid as he wants.

When you have trillion dollar industries and the corporate media on your side, you can afford these little mistakes now and then.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 04:29 PM
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22. deserves a kick n/t
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:17 PM
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24. Deserves multiple kicks
Spread the word. Spoon-feed the media.
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One Taste Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:52 PM
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27. kick again
:kick:
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Aquarian_Conspirator Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 06:25 PM
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26. This isn't going to matter
The corporate press won't touch this. It's simply *too* explosive.
I guarantee that you won't hear about this on any corporate media outlets. And, if you do, it will be accompanied by more character assassin bullets then even Howard Dean has ever seen.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:35 PM
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29. From the daily briefing of "Government Executive Magazine":
A former FBI translator said Wednesday that the bureau had "real, specific" information relating to the Sept. 11 attacks before they happened. Sibel Edmonds worked for the agency working from Sept. 20, 2001 to March 2002.

Edmonds said she was hired to retranslate material that was collected prior to Sept. 11 to determine if anything was missed in the translations that related to the plot. In her review, Edmonds said the documents clearly showed that the Sept. 11 hijackers were in the country and plotting to use airplanes as missiles. documents also included information relating to their financial activities. Edmonds said she could not comment in detail because she has been under a Justice Department gag order since October 2002.

Edmonds has testified before the Sept. 11 commission, the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Senate Select Intelligence Committee.

http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0304/032404c1.htm

CNN? CBS??

Helloooooo???

- knock knock -

is this thing working?
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 07:50 PM
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30. all this s*** coming down now is starting to scare me badly...
.....
it's no longer even every DAY; it's every HOUR!
we hear of some other botched job or stunning incompetence, venality, stupidity or bullying bullshit behavior.

Who the hell is minding the store?
Who is protecting us?
These fuckers are so so very wretched at their jobs ....
I have this sense that the whole country right now is even more vulnerable than it ever was.
You would think conservatives would be as outraged as we are about all this shit -- well, we'll start to hear from them, I think. How can they NOT see how badly in danger the country is?

And fuck the November election.
Bush must resign or be impeached -- now, not next month, not in november.
He MUST GO! and take cheney, ashcroft and the rest along with him.
"It's our due?" Mr. Cheney? Fuck you!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 08:01 PM
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31. America is more vulnerable than ever.
Because it's like Bush said: "Your enemy is not surrounding your country. Your enemy is RULING your country."

What have they done, and what are they yet capable of?

It's a bloody nightmare.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-04 09:59 PM
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32. kick (nt)
.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 03:53 AM
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33. Is this being reported anywhere else?
It's an awfully damaging charge.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 04:45 AM
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34. How many more smoking guns do we have to have?
Edited on Thu Mar-25-04 04:54 AM by anarchy1999
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