Official 9/11 investigation thread #4

[indigo32]

previous thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1279296&mesg_id=1279296

[xultar]

1. WTF is this asshole trying to say!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[BootinUp]

6. ITs a slime attack, audience should revolt

Clarke says calmly thank you John CROWD LAUGHS

[Cush]

2. Lehman is attacking Clarke

[slinkerwink]

4. ugh!

[Vadem]

Lehman complimenting Clarke, saying he has always been a

fan of Clarke's since they worked together 28 yrs. ago. (Probably the compliment before the slapdown)

Lehman: You let the chips fall where they may; you were critical of institutions and people that could have done better; the greater weight of this falls in the Clinton years since there were 8 yrs as oppposed to 9 mos.

Brings up the attempt to assassinate Bush 41 (I thought that was discounted)

Here comes the slapdown!
Talking about the book being against Bush; book so different from the whole thrust of your testimony to us previously.

You have a real credibility problem; I hope you will resolve that problem!

(What a jerk!)

[BootinUp]

3. Questioning motives

indicating its all for money

[Catfight]

15. The truth will set you free

It's for integrity! How dare they question his UNDER OATH! Everyone who won't go under oath should have a credibility issue!

[Emboldened Chimp]

5. Lehman attacking Clarke

on timing of book release, 60 Mins., blah, blah, blah...

[indigo32]

9. NASTY

he can just cry me a river.

[rusty charly]

10. a republican

talking about credibility???!!!??!!??

[Cush]

7. "Thank you Joe" (audience laughs)

[Emboldened Chimp]

8. Lehman: "You've got a real credibility problem?"

You going to ask Condi the same thing, you puke asshole?

[Spazito]

13. The only one with a credibility problem, a BIG one,,,

is Lehman. Anyone watching this can see that.

[Cush]

11. Lehman is going for Press Coverage

he's hoping that the Press focuses on this segment and not his tesimony

[xultar]

12. HE's a REPUBLICAN!!!! n/t

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:

[k in IA]

20. Wooohhhhh - you want to talk about IRAQ ?

[Catherine Vincent]

14. These Repuke reps are so fvcking TELLING!

Thompson and Lehman especially. These guys are trying so hard to protect that rat bastard Bush.

[0007]

23. I'm amazed how cool Clarke handled Lehman

Man, this guy's got class.

[ellie]

16. Talking about partisanship now

Not working for Kerry. Worked for Reagan, Bush #1, Bush #2. Co-teach a class with someone who works with Kerry: Randy Beers. Just because he is working with Kerry, I am not going to disassociate myself with my best friend. I won't accept any position in the Kerry administration, should there be one. I am saying this under oath.

[livetohike]

Clarke just said

that by invading Iraq, the President has greatly undermined the war on terrorism.

[Emboldened Chimp]

17. I thought this comission was supposed to find out what happend on 9-11

not to unleash political attack hounds in an election year...this is disgusting.

[ellie]

18. By invading Iraq

the president has greatly undermined the war on terror.

Complete silence.

[slinkerwink]

19. omg, Clarke said, "By invading Iraq, the President has undermined the

war on terrorism" OMFG!

[Mike Niendorff]

26. minor correction:

"By invading Iraq, the President of the United States {sic} has greatly undermined the war on terrorism."


MDN

[pinto]

30. the silence in the room was deafening....n/t

[xultar]

21. OK I digress

:hugs:

[Orangepeel]

27. They didn't cut him off. He stopped talking.

and just let what he said sink in

[Catherine Vincent]

38. He wasn't cut off.

It was quiet for a long time after he finished. You couldn't hear a pin drop.

[Blue_Roses]

105. DAMN SURE WAS!

N/T

[teach1st]

22. Zing! The silence was loud! NT

[k in IA]

42. They were questioning his credibility because during his

hours of testimony to them he was more critical of the Clinton Administration than of Bush but now that the book has come out it is a big Bush bash. Why?

He answered that they asked him about 911, no one asked about Iraq. The war against Iraq has undermined the war on terror.

[maveric]

24. "By invading Iraq the president greatlty undermined the war on terrorism"

WOW!!
Clarke sent Lehman and Thompson yelping away with their tails between their legs.

[BootinUp]

25. Bush has been devastated -eom-

:nuke:

[xultar]

28. A Republican would EAT THEIR YOUNG to clear a point.

Fuckers!

[Goldom]

29. oooohhhh...

that silence... that was the greatest thing I've seen on tv my whole life...

[Catfight]

35. The elephant is in the room!

and the donkey just kicked it ass!

[Vadem]

40. LOL.....n/t

[slinkerwink]

36. I know! my jaw dropped open when I saw that silence....

[seaglass]

31. Wow. The look on Clarke's face when he said that and

the silence following...most dramatic moment of the last two days of testimony.

My heart just stopped.

[readmylips]

32. Low Blow! Clarke gave it back to Lehman...

the audience was totally silent...commisioners looked in shock..no one spoke for a few seconds.

[Timefortruth]

55. It was the perfect sound byte for the evening news,

This could backfire big time for the Republicans.

[readmylips]

33. Low Blow! Clarke gave it back to Lehman...

the audience was totally silent...commisioners looked in shock..no one spoke for a few seconds.

[Emboldened Chimp]

41. say it again, brother!

[readmylips]

34. Low Blow! Clarke gave it back to Lehman...

the audience was totally silent...commisioners looked in shock..no one spoke for a few seconds.

[Spazito]

37. Wow! He was NEVER asked about his opinion on the attack on Iraq...

by the commission???? What the hell? Did Clarke just say the commission never asked him during all the hours he testified privately?

[RoundRockD]

44. Maybe Condi willl have to appear tomorrow after today's testimony. n/t

[SoDesuKa]

39. Take Yer Best Shot

Clarke is taking shots but he's not getting rattled. His calm rejoinder to Lehman ("Thank you, John") was right up there with "You're no Jack Kennedy".

[ellie]

43. What is this joint inquiry business?

It sounds like he is being set up here.

[Vadem]

47. I think it is the House and Senate Intelligence Committees....

[Mike Niendorff]

45. also worth noting:

"Let me just state now, as I am under oath, that I will not accept any position in a Kerry administration. On the record. Under oath."

(so much for Bush Apologists' Plan A -- :) )


MDN

[BootinUp]

46. Fielding just said Clarke has no integrity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clarke said he answered all questions fully and the report said so.

[Emboldened Chimp]

51. I heard that...what a jerk!

This is getting intensley personal...and that's not supposed to be the point.

[librechik]

95. man they were scrambling--they didn't know what to say

Fielding looked bad...

[Catherine Vincent]

52. I heard that bastard.

These repukes have no shame! Clarke gave him the shittiest look.

[jean]

99. Fielding was a member of b*sh's brilliant transition team - ugh

[Catherine Vincent]

48. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This Roemer guy will not let up on calling out CONDI RICE.

[Emboldened Chimp]

49. Bringin' it home to Condi!

Go, go, go!

[Cush]

50. Roemer: We didn't have access

Roemer states that the is the only Commission member that was part of the first inquiry.

[BootinUp]

53. Uh I think Roemer is fired up

Said we don't have time for going after each other.

[SoDesuKa]

57. Roemer Not Romney n/t

[BootinUp]

59. thanx!

[Emboldened Chimp]

54. Roemer castigating personal attacks

saying though he appreciates going after people in DC, we simply don't have time....

directed towards his fellow panel members, perchance?

[SoDesuKa]

60. Clearly

Clearly directed at the sniping coming from the Republicans . . .

[Bonhomme Richard]

56. It's like a circular firing squad.........

All the repugs have gotten orders to dicredit Clarke and all they have done is give him one headline after the other. The best they could have done is ask a few basic questions and get him out of there.
God, I love to see them squirm. Shit, it's like poking a skunk.

[Blue-Jay]

109. Clarke is dropping sound bite bombs all over the place!

I just went out to my car for a little while and listened. He's killing these guys.

[Catherine Vincent]

58. According to repuke Fielding, Clark has no integrity because he is

telling the truth about Bush. That makes a lot of sense, ya moron.

[readmylips]

61. Relationship of Saudis...

with US..

The flight...of 911?

[Vadem]

62. Roemer asking about our relationship with the Saudis....

We need to broaden and deepen this relationship; where do we go in this relationship;

BOMBSHELL!

You made a decision to allow a planeload of Saudi to leave country!

[Vadem]

71. Clarke: Someone from Saudi embassy feared for the lives

of Saudis citizens in the US and the Bin Laden family; we evacuating Americans in same situation.

I refused to approve it!

FBI approved the flight!

[Cush]

63. Roemer asks about Saudi's leaving after 9/11

[0007]

65. go go go go go on this one -

[Cush]

67. Someboday brought up a request from the Saudi's

that we evacuate Saudi's and Bin Laden members

[kaitykaity]

68. Come on Clarke, say it.

Talk about the bin Ladens leaving the country after 9/11 without being interviewed by the FBI.

Come on!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lex]

75. Clark didn't approve the flight!

He kicked it to the FBI so they could interview the ones being evacuated and the . . .

FBI DIDN'T DO IT before they left US soil.

WTF?? This is serious shit.

[maddezmom]

64. talking about the"Saudi evacuation aircraft"

so that's what they are calling it.

[Howardx]

66. sweet!

ive been waiting for that to come up!

[Cush]

70. Clarke refused to approve it!

it was the FBI

[Emboldened Chimp]

73. Gee, for someone 'out of the loop'

he sure did have a lot of responsibilities!

[Catfight]

79. and getting a lot of questions for someone who doesn't know jack!

He's got a great memory!!!!!!

[emalejim9]

69. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Saudi Flight..this is getting good. Please please state who was on that flight.

[pinto]

72. Clarke refused to approve, says FBI approved

[Lex]

78. the FBI didn't interview those on the flight!!!!????

that is major, major shit!

OMG.

[RoundRockD]

83. It's about time they get to the real issues.

They've wasted enough time attacking Clarke's integrity.

[xultar]

74. Saudi Airways Tell it CLARKE!!! n/t

[Cush]

76. FBI has no desire to interview those people

"I have no idea who they were"

Says they were members of the Bin Laden family in the US, and he & the FBI knew what they were doing.

[Vadem]

85. Roemer: who asked and who gave the final approval?

Clarke: ran it through decision process, I would love to be able to tell you who did it. Most possiblity, State Dept. or Chief of Staff (Andy Card, I think)

A decision was needed was because the grounding was still in effect.

[Vadem]

92. Mueller will be the scapegoat and will go down, I bet!

[librechik]

106. no it would be the other guy, the Clinton hater!

Mueller was put on after 9/11

[Catherine Vincent]

77. FINALLY!

Somebody is talking about the bin laden family!!!!

[maddezmom]

80. What were the members of the Bin Laden family doing?

why can't Clarke say?

[Cush]

81. Roemer: Who initiated the request for the evacuation?

[Lex]

84. Was it possibly the Chimp or Poppy?

Do we know?

Clarke doesn't know, right?

[Emboldened Chimp]

82. Roemer trying to get Clarke to recall

who came up with the Saudi Airways proposal...

[displacedtexan]

86. Oh, yeah! Andy Card!

either dept. of state (I think) or the WH chief-of-staff's office.

[maddezmom]

88. after being pressed: State Dept or WH Chief of Staff

are probable

[readmylips]

87. Approved flight of Saudis by FBI or..

above, State Dept or White House.

[kaitykaity]

89. Request could have come from "White House

Chief of Staff's ofice."

:bounce:

[Lex]

94. Holy Sh*t!

They have to be pissing themselves over at the White House right now.

Please, please follow up on this, commission members!

[Emboldened Chimp]

90. When pressed, Clarke thinks it could have been

Head of State Dept (Powell) or Chief of Staff Office (Andy Card).

:nuke: :nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:

[Lex]

97. Can they call Andy Card to testify?

Wonder if they will?

[Spazito]

91. State dept or WH most likely are the ones that asked!

Another direct hit by Clarke!

[maddezmom]

96. and State Department has denied this already, so that leaves

BUSHCO*

[Aries]

93. The headline: "FBI Approved Saudi Post-9/11 Flight"

If there is ANY integrity left in our media, anyway.

[maddezmom]

101. "FBI requests Saudi "evacuation plane" and White House approves"

[Emboldened Chimp]

98. WTF is Gorton's hard-on with "actionable intelligence"

is he a complete dipshit or does he have some obscure agenda?

probably a dipshit...

[Vadem]

102. Both, probably! n/t

[pinto]

103. he's trying to narrow the definition to shield Bushco....

[SoDesuKa]

108. The Choice

Given a choice between dipshit or agenda, go with dipshit. You'll be right 90% of the time.

[SoDesuKa]

Kerrey Praises Clarke 'Integrity'

Invites Clarke to teach at the New School, where Kerrey is president.

[BootinUp]

100. Indirectly clearing clinton on the Sudan factory bombing!

[ellie]

104. Shouldn't rush to judgement when there is a

terrorist attack. He just brought up the Sudan plant and the criticism that Clinton received for it. We shouldn't have to wait for groups to attack us before we attack them.

[PaDUer]

111. FAUX just got hung :-)

[kiahzero]

124. Progressives can be just as guilty of this, unfortunately (n/t)

[kiahzero]

125. Dupetastic

[Emboldened Chimp]

107. WE NEED A NEW THREAD....

can someone start one, please?

[Cush]

110. Kerrey just attacks FOX News

They have violated a serious trust, "Sometimes Fair and Balanced"

Gets applause

[IronLionZion]

115. awesome!

good for him. Some people here doubted his Democratic credentials but he seems ok.

[Catfight]

122. Fox is sued over Fair and Balance by Al Franken!

Franken Demands Fox change their trademark to Sometimes Fair and Balance!

[RoundRockD]

119. Also said that Clarke's integrity was still intact in is opinion!!

[myrna minx]

112. Oooohhhh---a slam against FOX NEWS!!!! n/t

[xultar]

113. Occassionally Fair and Balanced (Faux) n/t

[ellie]

114. Kerrey just attacked Fox!

They will try to embarrass and discredit us.

[readmylips]

116. Boob Kerrey did something right...

attacked Fox News..unbalanced.

[Cush]

118. now he's acting like a PNAC'er

[maddezmom]

117. Kerrey taking aim at Faux bullshit background memo on Clarke

"Should be occasionally fair and balanced."

[Vadem]

120. New thread here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1280202

[emalejim9]

121. Official 9/11 investigation thread #5

Previous thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1279827

[tishaLA]

123. Can someone clarify the Faux press release

that Kerrey held up? I am not getting the background on this.

[proud patriot]

126. thread #5 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1280202