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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:49 PM
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Clinton did nothing about terrorism - MY PATOOT!
This has been posted before but it needs to be shown again in light of recent accusations http://www.cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:58 PM
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1. Thanks, eagler. Post this link as often as necessary!
:toast:
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:00 PM
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2. News sites should be forced
to place a link to this story at the top of every page until Bush is out of office.

I love the line about not wanting a police state.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:02 PM
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3. Thank you very much.
I am printing several copies to hand out to the people who make the claims that "Clinton did nothing". DU is the best, because people here know the truth.
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:09 PM
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4. Orrin Hatch should eat his socks
"One key GOP senator was more critical, calling a proposed study of chemical markers in explosives "a phony issue. . . Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, emerged from the meeting and said, "These are very controversial provisions that the White House wants. Some they're not going to get."

Hatch called Clinton's proposed study of taggants -- chemical markers in explosives that could help track terrorists -- "a phony issue."

"If they want to, they can study the thing" already, Hatch asserted."
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:13 PM
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5. Whatever happend to Taggants ?
I can't believe there can't be better controls on explosive proliferation. As far an I'm aware, terrorists aren't manufacturing explosives, they acquire legitimately produce explosives materials via illegal means. Why can't we clamp down on this?

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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:13 PM
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6. tagging plastic explosives passed or not then?
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 02:18 PM by Bushknew
If it didn't, I'd like to hear why this was a phony issue.

I'd like to hear Clarke and Hatch disscuss it.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:19 PM
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7. The GOP wants crooked businessmen protected
That's the bottom line. They don't want explosives tracked. One of their contributors might get fined.

Don't forget, it was Phil Gramm that refused to tighten international banking laws, citing the request "fascistic." Trouble was that Enron was using the same conduits to launder stockholder money that the 9/11 terrorists were using to fund their forays into flight school.

This is how completely corrupt these men have become, and this is why we need to defeat them, any way we can.
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:19 PM
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8. This really needs to be kept in the public eye because
all of the right wingers are saying Clinton did nothing.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:21 PM
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9. This is a post I made on another forum in Sept. of last year . . .
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 02:26 PM by ET Awful
So you can ignore the "right wing" references :). There's lots of good information here though.

Since there are so many right-wingers here that choose to alter the truth as to what exactly Bill Clinton did to combat terrorism, I thought it might be helpful to provide some actual FACT instead of the fiction that most of them attempt to vomit forth.

First, I will refer you to http://www.snopes2.com/rumors/clinton.htm which does a great deal to disprove many of the false claims made by right-wing pundits as to how soft Clinton was on terrorism.

Then, I will remind you that Clintons administration was the first to freeze terrorist assets (with $254 million in Taliban assets frozen in 1999). http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A52702-2001Oct12

In 1996, Clinton succeeded in getting a bill passed which you would think the right wing would love "Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996." This goes largely unnoticed by the right-wing pundits who chose to pay more attention to blow jobs.

The official policy of the Clinton Whitehouse on terrorism also went greatly ignored, but much of it can be found at http://www.cdt.org/policy/terrorism/adm-anti-terror-otl.html

You can see from the above that Clinton made great efforts and strides to stop terrorism. You will also see people mention the USS Cole bombing as evidence that Clinton was soft on terrorism. They fail to mention that this happened a mere 30 days before the election.

Why is it that none of them mention the 1993 WTC bombing as proof of Bush, Sr.'s lack of efforts on terrorism? After all, Bush had only been out of office 30 days when this attack occurred. Clintons administration tracked down the attackers in that case and brought them to justice.

In August of 1998, Clinton addressed congress via a letter in an attempt to freeze bin Laden's assets (yes, he came up with the idea long before Bush). http://www.ict.org.il/documents/documentdet.cfm?docid=22 Yet this is greatly forgotten by the right.

In fact, republicans in congress watered down Clinton's anti-terrorsim bill http://www.angelfire.com/rant/sstewert/News/clintonbill.html (don't bitch about the angelfire site, check the sources instead).

It's also worth mentioning that contrary to popular belief, Clinton NEVER refused to accept bin Laden. He could not accept him at the one opportunity that was presented because there was no evidence with which to try him (this happened in 1996). The Sudanese just wanted bin Laden gone, they told Clinton this, but there was no way at the time Clinton could do anything because there was no crime with which to charge him and no evidence with which to indict him. He tried to persuade Saudi Arabia to take him and hold him, THEY REFUSED. This is how bin Laden ended up in Afghanistan. There's also the fact that the offer from the Sudan was from completely unofficial channels and could not be taken entirely seriously.

In fact, as I linked in an earlier post, Clinton had greenlighted the CIA to take any action necessary to stop bin Laden. The CIA had trained operatives in Pakistan to go into Afghanistan and take him out. But, a military coup in Pakistan stopped that from happening. The leader of that coup is still in power in Pakistan and is a good friend of the current administration.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/10/18/column.billpress/index.html

Clinton did more than any president before him to halt terrorism. To insinuate that he did otherwise is both a lie and an insult.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:22 PM
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10. Quinn
come to Momma!!!

:D
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:26 PM
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11. I'm going to have to take Quinn out of my sig :)
Everyone pays more attention to him than to what I'm saying :) :) :)
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:27 PM
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12. Didn't Lott..
accuse Clinton of using terrorism as a disttraction from the investigation into his sex life?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:31 PM
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14. ...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:28 PM
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13. Thanks for that.
Glad I posted it, this a.m.:-D
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 05:00 PM
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15. kick
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