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Jokerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:17 AM Original message |
Religious Preference vs. Sexual Preference |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. You're not born with a religion. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I have a legit question |
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nostamj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. when heterosexuals come forward |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. To my thinking, it is only nature. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. But I don't see any proof of that |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:48 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. there's proof in nature, such as the case of the gay penguins at the |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. How so? |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:52 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. yes, it's always nature over nurture---for example, look at the |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. But you are citing cases where people have a strong preference |
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slinkerwink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. sexuality as a continuum is very fluid, and there's arguments that |
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nostamj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. anyone can 'choose' to have sex with anyone |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 06:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
60. Your problem is that you are conflating two different things |
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StayOutTheBushes (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
40. How about in the prisons? |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. If your assumption were true |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Not necessarily |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Curious |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. I don't, I have met those who do |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. "Strong views" |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
52. I don't see that it matters... |
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gator_in_Ontario (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I have a legit question |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:56 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. No it doesn't, but good luck getting muddle to answer that question |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Choice |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Not exactly accurate |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Making choices |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Clarification request... |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Please say you're not comparing attraction to a donkey to homosexuality |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Nope |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Sorry, not sufficient. |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 12:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Again I was following up on another's point |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. No, you were not |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. You are reading what you wish |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Then support and illuminate the poster's argument... |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 06:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. You consider it minor, I did not |
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cprise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. People make racial choices |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. the question posed to you: what difference does it make? |
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Jokerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. That makes the black clergy's argument even weaker |
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Catfight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Bravo! |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:20 AM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Excellent point |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
7. Jokerman makes a powerful point. |
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EdGy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. the religious right's goal is to shove their beliefs down our throats |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
12. the other nite talking to |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
20. I guess the problem is... |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
21. Talk about demeaning the civil rights movement |
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msmcghee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
24. Nature / nurture is a blind alley. |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. Not even sure about that... |
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YIMA (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
27. I prefer sex |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
32. "Some argue that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice" |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. After a point |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-24-04 07:53 AM Response to Reply #32 |
65. Discrimination |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
34. Life is full of choices... |
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boilerbabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
37. Blacks, Gays, Women...they are all on shaky ground these days |
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Jokerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
41. Let me clarify my point |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. You GO, Jokerman! |
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Jokerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Thanks Karenina! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 04:23 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. let's try this again |
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mumon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
46. I've always said, |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
54. Does anyone choose who attracts them? |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 06:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. yes - I think so |
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MAlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
57. in terms of rhetorical and logical purity |
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hippiegranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
58. this is beautiful |
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Jokerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-24-04 07:13 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Be my guest |
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mlawson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-23-04 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
61. "Sexual preference" is a code word. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-24-04 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
63. you choose your religious belief |
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Muddleoftheroad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-24-04 07:41 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. See if I said that, folks would be all over me |
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