Richard Clarke is the turning point

[Tactical Progressive]

9-11 negligence is the thing, the one thing, that will pull BushCo down more surely than any other issue.

It's probably the main reason that I supported Wesley Clark and still think Clark should be considered for 4 years of VP (guess who would get the second 4 years).

Richard Clarke's perspective will probably be enough. It seems to have awakened, or maybe coalesced things for alot of people. Even our horrific media shows signs of being truthful. But if you want to put extra nails in the coffin just in case, Wesley Clark on the campaign trail would be the best guarantor. He's not afraid to push this and he showed it before anyone else. Kerry is afraid of the issue, that's obvious, but it's also okay because charges of national security negligence or malfeasance doesn't need to be pushed from the top of the ticket.

Democrats just have to stay strong and supportive of the truth and of each other.

[FlemingsGhost]

1. Invading Iraq was the turning point.

The Bush administration was in trouble the moment the first bomb fell.

"Shock and Awe" is just beginning...

[Tactical Progressive]

11. Not at all.

Invading Iraq was the second act of the media's 'Great Leader Bush' stage show, to their ever-increasing shame. If it had worked there would be no turning point. Act three would have been Bush's reelection 'mandate'. That's a living-hell possibility you can't simply dismiss because things happen to be looking up now.

In fact, if over this coming summer Iraq settles down and the economy picks up alot, maybe with a little Osama or al Zaquiri (sp) capture thrown in for good measure, this could still be a hard election.

That's why it is so important for Democrats to keep this issue front and center, supporting each other and making the case responsibly that BushCo was a national security disaster, not a national security hero.

[FlemingsGhost]

12. I disagree

All you say is true. However, it's also strictly for domestic consumption. The rest of the world wasn't fooled.

Once Bush made clear the Neo-Con agenda, they were in trouble. The turning point was thumbing their noses at the UN (and our "Old Europe" allies) and unilaterally invading Iraq.

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[Gman]

2. Clarke is only another step

we have over 7 months left.

[Mz Pip]

3. I hope so

but so often over the past 3 years we have anticipated the downfall of BushCo only to be thwarted by his lies and deception.

I want to be optimistic but my cynicism runs deep.

Considering the intensity of BushCo's attack on Clarke, I doubt they have any intention of letting this affect them negatively in the least. I was amazed that there was so much time spent on Newsnight with the Kerry anti Vietnam War issue and all the documents the FBI had on him.

THey will trash Clarke and they will trash Kerry and I fear the American people will believe anything they say because the contrary is really too awful.

MzPip
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[Nite Owl]

4. The 'War on Terra' was all the guy

had to campaign on. Goes straight to the whole phoney he's got character thing. Boy are they really upset about this too, thought some heads were going to explode today.

[Tactical Progressive]

7. That's right, this hits on many levels across a raft of issues

None more than the phony 'war hero' personna the media has cuddled BushCo with.

These people were astoundingly dismissive of their primary national security responsibilities, and they've been allowed to prance around as 'tuff on terra'. It's been a mockery, and this issue, actually these issues, shine the light brightly.

Democrats can't back down.

[Poiuyt]

5. It depends how long its legs are.

How long will the press cover this story? Will the Democrats (especially Kerry) pick up on this in a big way?

It could be the biggest thing yet to get bush out of office since it shows that he isn't as wonderful combating terrorists as he says he is. Fighting terrorism is bush's strongest suit in the public's eyes. Clarke has shown that bush wasn't very good at all. How well the swing voters agree will determine the election.

[Tactical Progressive]

9. The press will cover the issue

as long as Wesley Clark and public Democrats and everybody make it an issue. Think Republican.

It keeps coming back: Wes Clark on both 9-11 and Iraq, Paul O'Neill on Iraq, and now Richard Clarke on both 9-11 and Iraq again. The Ellen Mariani widow's lawsuit and BushCo's series of antics to block, control, stall, redact, restrict and rush the 9-11 commission have kept building the tension.

Coming up: Richard Clarke's 9-11 committee testimony. Then the committee report. Remember how the Republicans behaved over Clinton. This is about something real.

And no, Kerry won't pick up on this. That's why Wesley Clark would probably be a better choice for VP than a geographical nominee.

[Gloria]

6. I've been saying this for weeks, and esp. since Clark has been

speaking for Kerry.

Bush wants to run on his war/terrorism stuff and national security. Clark is an old hand at critiquing this....

I'm watching Clarke on Charlie Rose....I feel like I'm watching Clark.
They're saying much the same things about taking resources out of Afghanisan to go to Iraq...and on and on...

[eleny]

8. And to think that they had the whole world in their hands after 9/11

But they shot themselves in both feet. Greed killed this beast.

[Leilani]

10. I hope you're right about this issue

becoming the Bush downfall, but after 3 years of lies, secrecy, deception, inept policy, I'm losing hope that the sheeple are listening.

Also, the Bush cabal will not take this lying down. I expect a terror alert, or some other diversion to come along.

I'm suspicious about the timing of the Israeli assasination of the Hamas leader. I wouldn't be suprised if it was worked out with the White House. That issue diverted a lot of attention from the Clarke story.

[johntao]

13. Clark for VP?

How about Clark for Secretary of State?

[Tactical Progressive]

14. I think Clark would be very good as Secretary of State

But this election he is needed as the VP candidate. He can be Secretary of State in four years. In the meantime he would have tremendous influence in international affairs as Vice-President.

Again, 9-11 negligence is a *major* issue and SHOULD BE KEPT a major issue throughout the election year by Democrats at all levels. It tarnishes every aspect of the phony 'war hero' personna that the media insists on promulgating and will continue to promote unless countered.