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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:37 AM
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Wasn't Clinton Impeached because of "the Lies"
Hmmmm
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:41 AM
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1. yep
but the press always has a double standard when it comes to Schrub--if they don't make this a major issue the public won't.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:54 AM
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2. yes yes yes yes
I was told repeatedly by Repukes (they all had their stories straight) that "it's not the sex....it's the LIES"

Of course, now that Smirk is lying, its okay. Cause Gawwd told him to invade Iraq.

Accordingly, the mere lies of mortals are irrelevant..

See? :-)
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:00 AM
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3. Yes (and a pre-emptive debunking of one argument against...)
I've heard some make an issue out of the fact that Clinton was 'under oath' when he lied, and that's what made it different.

What I'd say is that Bush was under oath as well: the Oath of Office he swore when he was inaugurated. One of the duties of the office of the President is to deliver accurate information regarding the State of the Union.
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southernfried Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:15 AM
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6. to wit, perjury and obstruction of justice
Bush is lying but not where lying is a crime.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:18 AM
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7. I don't know
Maybe it's just me but when people start dying because of the lie I consider it a crime. But it's not like I'm an expert or anything on the issue.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:23 AM
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8. What I'm saying is that is WAS a crime
From the Constitution:

"The President shall from time to time give to Congress information of the State of the Union and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." Article II, Sec. 3, U.S. Constitution


Now, I suppose it doesn't specify that the President shall give Congress TRUTHFUL information, but that could reasonably be inferred. That being the case, Bush is guilty of violating his oath of office, which would certainly be a high crime or misdemeanor.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:40 AM
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10. Wrong
Perjury was never an issue and neither was obstruction of justice. He was charged with Providing misleading testimony.It is a completely different charge than either of the ones you suggest to be fact.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:02 AM
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4. That's ALL we heard for YEARS..
"...It's about the LIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS".....

HYPOCRITES:puke:
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:13 AM
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5. Clinton was impeached...
...because Nixon was not impeached for the lies. It has all been a huge pay-back and 'watch the birdie' game of the 1st magnitude ever since. The hunta that is presently in the white house are the descendents of all that Nixon had to offer. The further distribtion of all monies to the top 1% via the end of democracy; chaos & death, the spilling of American blood & treasure worldwide for the perverted defense not of Freedom & Liberty! but the commercial interests of multi-national and off-shore, inside-trading corporate Robber Barrons is all part of 'the game' therefore...

Watch The Birdie ~
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 10:38 AM
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9. Actually the correct terminology is "Provided misleading testimony"
He was disbarred for that also. No where does it say he Lied.
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