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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:07 PM
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Cheney on Limbaugh's show: "Clarke wasn't in the loop." Actual audio.
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 05:42 PM by Liberal_Guerilla
I just saw a snippet on Wolf Blitzer where Cheney phoned into Limbaugh's show today and tried to dismiss Clarke by saying that he wasn't in the loop.

My question to Dick Cheney is why wasn't Clarke, who was the head of counter terrorism with 30 years of experience and knowledge in the loop? Doesn't Cheney's comment bolster exactly what Clarke is saying? It appears that it does.


This is a Freudian slip admission of guilt. Thanks Dick.

For the record, here's the audio. http://mfile.akamai.com/5020/wma/rushlimb.download.akamai.com/5020/clips/04/03/032204_7_dick_cheney_int.asx

And Limbaugh even brags about it on the front page of his web site.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/today.guest.html
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:09 PM
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1. Wasn't in the loop?

Oh, you mean the neo-con loop that never gave a fuck about terrorism and only wanted to invade Iraq...

That's the point Dick.

Good work idiot, you just proved Clarke right!
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:11 PM
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2. "wasn't in the loop"??? OMG!!!
That's what Poppy Bush* said when questioned about Iran/Contra!!!

Like father, like son
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:15 PM
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8. Which further proves Clarkes assertion that these guys are stuck
in the cold war eighties.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:12 PM
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3. not in the loop and not in the ring
either. rush is just pissed that clark wouldn't give him pills. dammit, rush needs his 'blue babies!"
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:13 PM
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4. Precisely THE POINT!!!
Why wasn't he in the loop!!
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:13 PM
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5. not in the loop?
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:27 PM
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34. That's a damn good article, especially for TIME.....
Its great to know a lot of middle American types who read TIME will
see it.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:14 PM
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6. like Poppy wasn't in the loop
gawd if the press just lifts a finger and does there job this ends.

the big lie may be finally getting too big.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:15 PM
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7. You mean to tell me U.S. Vice President is appearing on a trash radio show
hosted by a raving drug addict?

I believe I smell desperation.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:16 PM
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10. To shore the stupid base.
Rush has no credibility.
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:21 PM
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13. exactly what I was thinking.
This is not the venue for a Vice President to comment on such an important matter. Shouldn't the American public expect a more professional manner from the VP of the United States. This radio show is not a news agency or even a legitmate fair and balanced program. It is a biased, negative, and at times hateful shock jock show. Perhaps the VP should call Howard Stern next just to be fair and balanced.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:25 PM
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17. What happened to the dignity of the Office of the Vice President?
I have to say that I am naive enough to be shocked. . .I agree w you 100%
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:30 PM
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This is not Cheney's first time on Limpballs' freakshow
I've heard him call in at least two or three times so OxyBoy could suck him off for a while.

It does sound like Cheney let the cat outta the bag on this one!

Bake
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:28 PM
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35. Yeah, a real WTF? moment when reading that post header.
...Cheney on Limbaugh?

Whats wrong with THAT picture?
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 09:06 PM
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42. Not only Cheney, but Newt as well
Happened to catch Newt on that asshole insanities show. Guess they are desperate
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:16 PM
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9. If Clarke wasn't in the meetings, SHAME
on the administration! I think that excuse just confirms Clarke's statements. There were no meetings on terrorism!

I gotta say, they must really be SCARED! Every time I look at my tv I see a different face trying to defend the administration!

HAHA!
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:18 PM
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12. Clarke said on 60 minutes last night
That he expects them to send out their hounds against him. We are witnessing how the Bush machine works.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 06:43 PM
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30. This prompts...
a visual of them letting Cheney out of a kennel to snarf and snarl with Pillboy.


I think the cabal is begining to learn you can't unring the bell. I went after work & bought Clark's book - not only because I want to read it, but I heard Tweety say this morning that if the book didn't sell well, * would be off the hook.

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:17 PM
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11. Numma Wun Terra Guy?
And he "wasn't in the loop"?????

Yeah, didn't have the needed clearance from Wolfenstein and Rumsferatu to hear Neo-Con Plans of Domination, maybe....

Of course, the Freep-tard Sheeple gobble it right up, "Cheney SAID he was out of the loop, and he was on Rush's show when he said it, so it must be true...."

Why did that sound like "I saw Principal Skinner and Miss Crabapple in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and it SMILED at me!"

Same intelectual level between Ditto-bots and Ralph Wiggins?
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:21 PM
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14. No shit. Only Poppy, Cheney, and a few others
knew the real plan. Fucking duh!
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:21 PM
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15. The attack dogs are out!
Amazing, the VP of the US goes on Rush to smear this guy.
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:23 PM
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16. Which loop would that be?
The loop that did nothing about Al Qaeda prior to 9/11, despite detailed and very focused warnings from Clarke and Sandy Berger...or the other loop as yet undescribed, the loop that prepared America in an as-yet-undescribed manner, the loop that alerted airport security to a possible threat in as-yet-undescribed ways, the loop that closely examined warnings from 11 nations in late Spring summer with an as-yet-undescribed scrutiny?

Maybe that's the loop that Cheney is talking about.

All this huffing and puffing - really, it's pretty simple.

Clarke says you guys did absolutely nothing tangible about the Al Qaeda threat (except talk about once or twice) prior to 9/11.

If he's wrong, what exactly did you do? Prove him wrong with something. Anything. Do it now.

I f***ing dare you.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:30 PM
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19. Excellent point. Prove Clarke wrong.
Edited on Mon Mar-22-04 05:30 PM by Liberal_Guerilla
What did you do? There must be memos and minutes from meetings?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:26 PM
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40. Cant do it...confidential..national security...
unvarnished advice
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:28 PM
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18. This only corroborates what O'Neill said n/t
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:35 PM
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21. You are so right!!
O'Neill and a few others.
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Robin Hood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 06:09 PM
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24. It's also nice that O'neill was cleared today.
from the right wing smear campaign against which questioned if he broke the law by having his info.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:30 PM
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20. Joshua Micah Marshall talks about this
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

It's just obfuscation. Cheney said that Clarke's job was changed and he wasn't in charge of terrorism. True - but the change came after 9/11. Apparently Cheney forgot to mention that little detail on Limbaugh. They're trying to imply that Clarke wasn't, and didn't need to be, in the loop. It just happens not to be true. But, it's the obvious implication of what Cheney said - it's the implication any normal person would draw from what he said. Its just another deliberate attempt to mislead the American people.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:37 PM
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22. Chief Terrorist analyst not in the loop kind of like the Government's
Chief financial analyst wasn't in the loop either. I'm talking about Foster and the Medicare fiasco. They deliberately withheld information from Congress which is the same thing as lying. They did it on Iraq, on Medicare and probably every other thing they even bothered to consult with Congress over. We want this Cabal "Out of the Loop" and the sooner the better. Every Expert in the field was deliberately "out of the loop" because the information they possessed was not to the Bush* Cabal's liking.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 06:19 PM
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26. exactly. He was the chief terror analyst fer crissakes.
Cheney on Rush is laughable in itself. These morans have sunk to talking with rush limbaugh. LMAO
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 05:41 PM
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23. Cheney once appeared on Limbaugh's show for an interview
and now he is calling in to express some political view?
This is nuts--and I do think it is almost funny. It is certainly desperation--Limbaugh the druggie, and the Vice president uses his show for a political soap box. Mwahahhaha it sound so funny to me

Cheney is a cartoon character.

Maybe Bush will call in next eh?
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The empressof all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:11 PM
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36. desperate
Clearly they are feeling desperate and afraid. I can not believe the level of defensiveness and excuse making I have seen by this administration today.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 06:15 PM
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25. and, if I might ask,
WHO controls "the loop"???

if he was 'out of the loop' it was because he was KEPT 'out of the loop' because he was tainted with clinton-cooties and wouldn't shut up about terrorists while they were concentrating on OIL
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 06:32 PM
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27. Why wasn't the terrorism Czar in the loop?
This proves Clarke's point
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:15 PM
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38. Clarke would have smelled a rat.
Like all the DUers did, wondering why Baker seemed so scared down in Floriday in December 2000.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 06:37 PM
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28. What if?
:wtf:

What if Clinton had called up John Hightower or Amy Goodman and complained about Newt Gingrich and the cabal harping on the Lewinsky thing back in the day? (They definitely weren't in the loop).

What a fuckin' double standard there is when it's a right-wing fanatic calling a right wing talk show...

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 06:39 PM
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29. The expert was not "in the loop" ??? !!!!!
Well, that explains it, don't it?
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Palacsinta Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:11 PM
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31. Clarke was sitting at the Big Boy's Table
in a still shot taken right after 9/11. I just saw it on The Leher Report on PBS Clarke was three seats down from Bush. Wouldn't that be "in the Loop"? Actually......I don't remember seeing Bunker Boy Cheney there!!
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:18 PM
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32. "Doesn't Cheney's comment bolster exactly what Clarke is saying?"
Yes, it does.

No matter how they try to spin this, they will end up sounding like idiots.
Since they have already proven that they will tell whatever lie is
neccessary to get what they want, no one is going to believe them!
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 07:27 PM
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33. CHENEY phones in to Limbaugh? No shit?
Does that seem a bit...well...odd to you?

That the Vice President ...someone at such a high position-----would make a point to phone in to a right wing talkshow host to "set the record straight"? (IOW spin this?)

I think this book must be particularly damaging if they are going to that extreme to discredit it.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:14 PM
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37. Only TRAITORS were in the loop.
Just like Iran-Contra.

Sheesh, Clarke! If you can't trust a murdering, election-stealing, drunken coke whore, who can you trust?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:18 PM
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39. And we all know cheney wouldn't lie.
They drag this asshole out of his spiderhole every time w* gets his ass in a bind. They certainly came out shooting with all their guns this morning. They are not only on the defense, they are playing offense knowing well that the 9/11 commission will be stirring up much doo doo.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-04 08:57 PM
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41. Here's Cheney's loop:
"May 8, 2001: Bush entrusts Cheney to head the new Office of National Preparedness, a part of FEMA. This office is supposed to oversee a "national effort" to coordinate all federal programs for responding to domestic attacks. Cheney says to the press, "One of our biggest threats as a nation" may include "a terrorist organization overseas. We need to look at this whole area, oftentimes referred to as homeland defense." (New York Times, 7/8/02) Bush adds, "I will periodically chair a meeting of the National Security Council to review these efforts." Neither Cheney's review nor Bush's takes place before 9/11. "Bush (doesn't) speak again publicly of the dangers of terrorism before 9/11, except to promote a missile shield that had been his top military priority from the start." (Washington Post, 1/20/02)"
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/timelinebefore911.htm...

So here's Cheney, PNACer and oil man, already chairing a secretive energy commission (read up on its implications for military policy: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4458.htm ), being named to head up a new agency which will "coordinate all federal programs for responding to domestic attacks" five months before the attack, as the rest of the Administration quietty downgrades the threat posed by terrorism.

Then, on the morning of September 11 - PNAC's awaited "catalyzing event, such as a new Pearl Harbor" - by a "bizarre coincidence," he is monitoring an emergency simulation of planes crashing into buildings. A simulation, so we're told, when we learn about it one year later.

Dick Cheney wasn't combatting terror. He was facilitating it.
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