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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 09:46 AM
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Wierd MTP with Kennedy - but he zings Russert at the end
Kennedy and Russert had a wierd, almost hostile attitude towards each other. Russert took particular delight in throwing out the right wing talking points. Kennedy did good, but not nearly as good as I've seen him in other settings. I chalk that up to they wierd dynamic between them.

At the end Russert, like a good boy king-licker, broke out the labels. They started arguing over whether Kennedy and Kerry were "proud liberals" like the boy king is a "proud conservative" - Kennedy asked if there's anything conservative about a president who wracks up huge deficits.

Russert then broke out that stupid, lame survey that showed Kerry more liberal than Kenneday. Russert demanded, like a good boy king-licker, if Kerry was more "liberal" than Kennedy. Kennedy said "Kerry is more liberal than me as much as George Bush is a compassionate conservative" - showing how lame this game of labels is...then Kenneday was just belly laughing...and Russert was staring down at his notes...

The labels...what a distraction...Kennedy zinged that whore Russert.
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dand Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 09:50 AM
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1. Kennedy kicked Russert's Republican ass
Russert's open hostility was obvious, he is the archtypical media whore.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 09:50 AM
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2. I don't get it here until 10:30
it sounds like a must-see.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 09:52 AM
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4. IMO it's not a must see - it was just wierd....nt
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 09:52 AM
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3. I disgree
but only for a positive message :-) I thought Kennedy did great. He countered Russert at every turn. Russert tried but failed.

I think sometimes we expect miracles from our spokespeople and are too critical. Kennedy is a fine representative of our side.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:13 AM
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5. I think Kennedy got some good points in.
Of course, there was the label thing. But when he tried to get him to nail Kerry on that "more leaders" thing, which they at least quoted correctly, Kennedy did not bite. He said Shrub could tell us about Cheney's energy commission, Plame, etc.

Timmy tried to get Kennedy to bite on the Kerry "flip-flops," too. He did not.

There was hostility, though. And I have seen Kennedy come off better. Maybe Kennedy is not as nice to G.E. Timmy any more, because he sees him as the media whore he is.

At least this week, I am not sending Timmy an angry, disrespectful e-mail. This is the first time in three weeks!
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:27 AM
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6. Kennedy sucked
he is sucking on my tv right now. HORRIBLE performance IMHO x(

Timmy jumped all over my Senator x(

shit.

sorry, IMHO this was the worst interview he has had in some time. its not over yet, still waiting for the end zinger
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:35 AM
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7. I was just going to say that..
Edited on Sun Mar-21-04 10:39 AM by Mika
.. if one were to put on a repuke thinking/perceiving cap and glasses for a minute.. then one might say that Kennedy sucks.

I see that you don't need the aforementioned armamentarium.

:+
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:38 AM
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8. don't need the repuke thinking cap on this one
unfortunately.

just NOT a good performance. Russert certainly did HIS repuke job but Ted was babeling.

he could have done SO much better
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:40 AM
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9. Yep
:thumbsup:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:55 AM
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14. Russert asked the unanswerable distracting questions
IS Iraq better off?
Is the world better off without Saddam?
Did US Soldiers die for nothing?

Personally (but I don't have to run for office) I would say-Iraq? Is that the top priority of the PResident? No it isn't and yes those young men and women did die for nothing....nothing but a lie.

Ted did okay but when you have years of quotes available you are going to get caught saying something that comes back on you. I did like the "is that the best you can do?" part.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:45 PM
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18. Why unanswerable?
IS Iraq better off?
Is the world better off without Saddam?


The answers, however, can't be given in one second as a yes or no. They need more than one second.

Yes, they are all better off. Would the world be better off without Yasser Arafat and Kim Jong Il and a few other dictators and terrorists? It sure would. So why isn't the U.S. doing something about those guys? Or why isn't the U.N. doing something? Or why aren't the free nations of the world doing something?

Not necessarily in reference to those named above, but in many cases the U.S. is supporting military dictatorships in the world because to support the opposition, namely the citizens, would be against the interests of U.S. corporations. It is unconscionable, IMO, to support the military dictatorships in Central America in order to protect United Fruit against losses. Capitalism and liberation are not synonymous!

Did US Soldiers die for nothing?

They died believing that they were defending their homeland. The fact that they were lied to in no way takes anything from them. It takes from the people who lied.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:50 PM
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20. I meant that they are tailored to make you in some way agree with W
and the war. Built-in justification of the end justifying the means. That is what I meant by that. Anytime those questions are asked who know that the interviewer is stearing the conversation to at least partially agreeing with this whole big lie.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:50 PM
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21. the world is better off?
really?

how was the invasion of Iraq a defense of our 'homeland'? :eyes:

would the world be better off without Sharone? how about the Saudi government? how about Bush? Ashcroft?
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:43 AM
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11. The points were good, the delivery was a little scrambled. (nt)
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:49 AM
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12. agreed 100% n/t
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:02 PM
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17. Rough start early on
He seemed to be evading the questions instead of tackling them head-on.

He ended pretty strong though...........

otoh: Biden and Hagel dissed bushco pretty badly on This Week I liked Biden's performance much better than Kennedy's
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:45 PM
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19. I agree. Though, Tim did go after him with a vengeance...
Tim had the knives out. I think Kennedy did the best he could under the circumstances. But it wasn't a good performance. In fact, it was awful.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:40 AM
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10. I love, absolutely love, Ted Kennedy. He REFUSED to allow that idiot
Russert determine the tone of the interview. He refused to take the bait when asked an inflammatory or ambiguous question. He took control of that interview and said everything that needed to be said. Russert tried his best, but he wouldn't be good enough to match Kennedy even on Kennedy's worst day.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 10:53 AM
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13. Ted is kind of all over the place, but he REFUSES to let Timmy
get the best of the interview. Russert is such a whore!
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 11:07 AM
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15. We get this late in Philly...
that 'liberal' word again! I think that the FCC should ban it as 'obscene'. No right-thinking individual should use that word as its such an anathema to these people. OF course that means that the few remaining true l------s should be banned from the airwaves and sent to a re-education camp for the 'summer' until early November at least.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 11:09 AM
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16. Just goes to show you how the Repukes have to name-call
even in 'civilized' forums like "Meet the Press". They just can't NOT be childish and nasty.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 12:58 PM
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22. Kennedy really dropped the ball on the "liberal" perjorative crap
WHY do they SHRINK from that name?

instead, they should mention, oh, I don't know, dumbo's favorite philosopher, and ask scumsucking PIGLETS like Russert who JESUS would consider his candidate, a PROUD liberal like Kerry, or a RADICAL REACTIONARY lying thug like Bush?

he SHOULD have called that prick on the carpet for even MENTIONING this sideshow argument in the first place, telling that weasel that the mere bringing it up is just a REPUBLICAN attack strategy, designed to put dems on the defensive, with ZERO relevance to the political discourse.

he SHOULD have questoined Russert's line of questioning SEVERAL times, and asked that swine how much Karl Rove was paying him to ask those questions, particularly the one about the leaders' preference for Kerry.

Why didn't Teddy bring up alQaeda's endoresement of Bush? that'd have been pretty funny.

the dems NEED to confront Russert's basic dem animus EVERY time he starts in on these pug attack lines, instead of defensively answering.

shove it DOWN his THROAT with quotes from Daily Howler examples on how lightly he treads on the likes of Condi, Rumscum, Wolfowitz, Powell, etal

they should ask RUSSERT why he NEVER EVER confronts those creeps on their MYRIAD lies, when they're right out there, like Babs' goiter eye. yet he REFUSES to bring said lies up when they come on for their weekly lavage.

how cool would it be for a DEM to break out that Friedman/Rumsfeld exchange and demand to know why potato boy has NEVER had such a moment on his show with a pug?

huh?
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