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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 02:54 AM
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US Unloading WMD In Iraq- what do you make of these stories?
Pentagon Whistleblower - US Tried To Plant WMDs, Failed
Daily Times Monitor
3-21-4
According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the Bush administration's assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to "plant" WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by "friendly fire", the Environmentalists Against War report.

Nelda Rogers is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the DoD. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, "Ms Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense."

"CIA people were supposed to be handling it," Martin continues. "They had a special 'black' aircraft to fly it out. But none of that happened because the regular US Army showed up, stumbled onto it and everyone involved had to scramble. These new Iraqi "asset seizures" go directly to the New US Ruling Junta. The US Viceroy in Iraq Paul Bremer is reportedly drinking Saddam's $2000 a bottle Napoleon-era brandy, smoking his expensive Davidoff cigars and he has even furnished his office with Saddam's Napoleon-era furniture
More here:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/?page=story_12-8-2003_pg1_9

And This-
U.S. Unloading WMD in Iraq

TEHRAN (Mehr News Agency) – Over the past few days, in the wake of the bombings in Karbala and the ideological disputes that delayed the signing of Iraq’s interim constitution, there have been reports that U.S. forces have unloaded a large cargo of parts for constructing long-range missiles and weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in the southern ports of Iraq.

A reliable source from the Iraqi Governing Council, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the Mehr News Agency that U.S. forces, with the help of British forces stationed in southern Iraq, had made extensive efforts to conceal their actions

The source said that in order to avoid suspicion, ordinary cargo ships were used to download the cargo, which consisted of weapons produced in the 1980s and 1990s.

He mentioned the fact that the United States had facilitated Iraq’s WMD program during the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq and said that some of the weapons being downloaded are similar to those weapons, although international inspectors had announced Saddam Hussein’s Baath regime had destroyed all its WMD.

Here at:
http://www.tehrantimes.com/Description.asp?Da=3/13/2004&Cat=4&Num=011

Just wondering what everyone made of these, possible or BS?
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 02:58 AM
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1. It's hard to tell
Which is more trustworthy, the Bush administration or the Iranians?

:shrug:
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:51 AM
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5. conspiracy theories ...
Is my hobby :silly:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 08:00 AM
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 08:43 AM
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8. Id say welcome to DU but
whoops...you're already gone. Fancy that
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 04:52 AM
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3. Who knows after Pointdexter and North in the WH .
You hate to say you will almost believe anything.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 05:47 AM
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4. It reminds me of the Hatfield fiasco
The guy who originally reported that Bush did cocaine. He claimed his source was Karl Rove. Pretty ridiculous until you realize what they did to him and his prior record as a felon. That episode looked like the kind of thing that was created to discredit any talk of Bush's cocaine use. Perhaps they're quietly leaking this story to "less-than credible" press in order to discredit it before it even becomes an issue. I wouldn't be surprised if they were up to it, but I don't really believe either of these stories are correct. Assuming I'm not just being overly cynical they would be leaking these stories to muddy the waters and confuse any further investigation of a black op.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 07:21 AM
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6. There's very little about WMD in the first story
It mainly goes on about getting the cash and valuables; it just has the WMD tacked on as "they planned to plant some". It doesn't seem to say they ever got round to taking any to Iraq; I wonder if the WMD bit was just added to get a good headline. The amazing disappearance of everyone involved seems a bit suspicious too - the tone of the story is that this was by accident, not a coverup, and I'd have thought the chances of them all getting killed by missiles and bombs are low.

The second story depends on whether you believe there's such a thing as "a reliable source from the Iraqi Governing Council", as well as the reliability of the Iranian news agency. It could be true, but it seems to be based on one anonymous source.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 08:47 AM
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9. reaad 'House of Bush, House of Saud'
these people are so corrupt, they would use ANYONE to do their dirty work. The Bush ties to CIA are very deep, and let's not forget, almost the entire current cast of characters is Raygan/BuSh I redux.

This book provides a great deal of well-documented factual info about what the Raygun/Bu$h era provided to Saddam. No wonder they expected to find WMDs there!
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-21-04 08:58 AM
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10. News sources in...Russia, Pakistan and Iran?
Be nice if it were true, but I think I'll wait for the whistleblower to take it elsewhere.
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