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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:40 PM
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I'm a liberal
So, I'm a diehard liberal, but I oppose Bush for deficit spending, for giving Iraq $100 billion in foreign aid, for wanting to put a man on Mars, and I support Kerry because he's a real war hero who fought in Vietnam, and I like that billionaire George Soros for giving millions to help defeat Bush.

Of course there are thousands of other reasons to support Kerry over Bush, but some of the most popular reasons tell me that politics has gone topsy-turvy. Isn't it strange?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:43 PM
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1. Insert Twilight Zone Music
:crazy:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:50 PM
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2. It sure seems like we have stepped through a mirror, like Alice,
into a world that is opposite to what we knew.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:52 PM
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3. If the money for Iraq reconstruction had GAO oversight and
If the money for Iraq reconstruction had GAO oversight and war-profiteering were illegal, I'd have been in favor of it.

The problem with the $87 bllion is that Congress gave it to Bush based on a 50 page outline. The Senate voted to make war-profiteering illegal, but the House didn't and that was removed from the final version of the bill.

And there is no GAO oversight or other strict oversight, because Democratic amemdements for that were defeated.
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HydroAddict Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 08:01 PM
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5. Holy Shit...I learn something new everyday
War profiteering is not already illegal? WTF?

I thought for sure something was passed back in WWII days with the Rosie Riveter movement, or even in the constitution. Man, so embarrassing little I know about my own country, diligently hidden from my expensive education.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 08:05 PM
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6. I think the law expired since World War II.
I think the law expired since World War II, or maybe it was written to be specific to countries where the US fought WW II.

In the 1940s, both Republicans and Democrats were against war-protfiteering.


Now it's almost exclusively the Democrats who are against war-profiteering.
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 07:59 PM
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4. Why the "but"...
...you said you were a diehard liberal, BUT you oppose Bush for deficit spending. Liberals are not pro deficit spending. The BUT you inserted sounds like that's a liberal position.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:13 PM
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7. Actually, traditionally liberals were for deficit spending
Franklin Roosevelt lifted us out of the Great Depression by deficit spending. It was quite controversial at the time. I'm all for deficit spending if it's for social programs. Unfortunately, the only ones who deficit spend since Carter are the Republicans. Reagan was the worst, but Bush is almost as bad. And worse, they deficit spend to start wars around the world.
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eaprez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:33 PM
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8. They will do it....
...but its not part of the liberal platform.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:54 PM
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9. If you Step over to the Dark Side
and become a Progressive...you won't think it is that 'topsy-turvy'

Ask any critter that walks the center of the road...

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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:56 PM
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10. Democrats are the new Fiscal Conservatives
Speaking of how strange politics has gotten... check out this article:
http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/news/opeds/2002/frankel_trading_places_ft_091202.htm

The research paper this article is based upon is at
http://ksghome.harvard.edu/~.jfrankel.academic.ksg/Republicans%20and%20Democrats%20Have%20Switched.PDF
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