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BradCKY Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:17 AM
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Rush Limbaugh said they should have POSTPONED Spain's Election
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 08:17 AM by BradCKY
Because of the outcome I guess. Its a scary proposition coming from a neocon.
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:18 AM
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1. LOL!


Limbaugh needs to take a nice big fat Oxycontin and just enjoy the democracy.

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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:44 PM
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36. Pigman wants us to get ready for & used to Bush to postpone the elections
after the CIA sets up another "terrorist" attack here before the election...we will be forced into Marshall law...Bush remains the dictator and complete fascism is now the official government of the United States (the corporations would love it if this happened).
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smartass Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:19 AM
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2. It's a set up!
Neocons will want an excuse to cancel American November elections. Especially if they're down in the polls. Karl Rove at work here.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:20 AM
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3. "Then the Terrorist have won" (gag)
I'm so sick of "If "X" happens then the Terrorists have won" thinking.

New York City did postpose the mayoral election have 9/11 if I recall to no bad effect. I don't know if there is anything in the Constituion that would allow delaying a Presidential election.


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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:23 AM
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6. Well, the last presidential election has been delayed 8 years.
That's what I'm talk'n about.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:37 AM
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15. terrorists winning?
So, didn't bin Laden also win when Bush took troops out of Saudi Arabia after 9/11?

(Does anybody have a link for an article?)
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:02 AM
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25. Remember how Rudy wanted to stay in office
beyond his term? He proposed extending his term by 6 months, even though a new mayor had been elected.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:13 AM
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27. I'm Not Sick Of It, Robert!
It's exactly what WE should be saying. If we cancel an election, THEN THE TERRORISTS HAVE WON! If they "hate us for our freedoms", elminating the freedom to choose who will lead gov't is one they've subrogated.

We should be the ones saying this line. It turns the tables on them so fast they would vomit from motion sickness.
The Professor
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:22 AM
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4. definitely part of the spin
My conservative mother-in-law came close to suggesting the same thing yesterday.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:22 AM
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5. I'm getting really damn nervous about this
They are really starting to hop on this bandwagon over in RW lala land. Yesterday the freepers started in on this topic with most of them actually standing up for what is right and saying that delayed elections are a horrible, unconstitutional and unamerican idea. As more and more of their insane "leaders" jump on the side of stopping elections, they are starting to think it's a good idea after all.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:25 AM
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9. The Republicans can only stay in office with technical coups.
But, I'm afraid that this one won't work for them as easily as the last one. At the rate Bush's popularity is falling, they're going to lose the 2004 election and they just need to do America a favor and get use to the idea.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:48 AM
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18. My fear is that they have so totally convinced themselves that
they MUST have *, no matter what the cost, that they are likely to do a LIHOP or MIHOP, or even just a flat out wingnut terror event of their very own like Oklahoma City in order to achieve their ends.

I think some of these people are delusional enough that they will do ANYTHING to prevent that loss. Kind of like the type of people who would fail to stop* the deaths of 3000 people for political gain.

*or worse
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non sociopath skin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:24 AM
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7. The truth of the matter is that the neocons hate democracy ...
except when they win. They are all totalitarians at heart. They think they have a monopoly on wisdom and resent having to subject their policies to public scrutiny.

That's one of the reasons I hate them.

The Skin

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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:25 AM
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8. Pigboy is floating a Rove trial balloon
Nothing surprises me anymore.
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:25 AM
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10. Why does that not surprise me? n/t
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:32 AM
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11. Rush Limbaugh couldn't postpone his breakfast donuts........
if he wanted to. And he doesn't. :evilgrin:
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:32 AM
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12. Hannity said the US should be ready to postpone our elections
yesterday. This is the new talking point obviously. Like everything else they do it seems outrageous to even their supporters at first, then they brainwash them until they think it is a good idea.

Freepers are mostly against it, at least in this thread, with some notable exceptions. Check back there in three months and they will be in love with the idea.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1099072/posts?page=1,50
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:33 AM
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13. Hannity was talking about this idea the other night, and the Freepers...
are all over it as well.

The neocons really are going to try to stop the election this year. I cannot fucking believe I'm saying that. But it's clear that there is a concerted effort to try to get us used to the idea now. They will find some excuse to do it, probably centered around some "terror" alert or attack.

And you know what? The American people will just let it happen, because as much as I so DON'T want to believe this, >80% of the people in this country are a bunch of willfully stupid, lazy-ass fucking sheep who are more concerned with who the next American Idol will be than whether they are going to end up starving next month.

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 02:49 PM
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37. I object to your characterisation of me
I only use non-lazy-ass sheep for my 'dates' thank you.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:33 AM
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14. And affiliates should have POSTPONED his show
I guess you use the F**K word you're fined and cancelled, but under investigation for doctor shopping for hillbilly heroin gets you a big fat kiss.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:38 AM
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16. I've got a proposition for Rush...
If there is another terrorist attack on the US then fine, postpone the elections. But junior gets impeached immediately.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:38 AM
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17. Limpballs & Boorz are both going ballistic about the socialists' win
. . . it's more than their greedy little lying contemptuous hearts can stand and they are spinning it mercilessly to mean that AQ "won."

Too bad the gasbags won't tell their listeners the real truth: that AQ "won" back on 9-11 when their Glorious Leader had done nothing but fumble around and laugh off warnings about possible use of planes as bombs, and after he did nothing to stop the 2nd plane, after phone calls from the 1st plane confirmed that AQ was behind the attack.

AQ "won" again when one of the first things Dumbya did was withdraw U.S. bases from Saudi Arabia. Hello, how is this not "conceding to terrorists"???????

AQ "won" again when Dumbya masked 28 pages of the WH report on 9-11 investigation so that the Saudi financiers and winking sponsors of AQ and global oil-soaked terrorism remained unscrutinized.

AQ "won" again when Dumbya met behind closed doors with the Saudi Foreign Minister--one of the alleged financiers of AQ--and they emerged smiling and shaking hands.

Need I go on and on? Everything that's happened before & after 9-11 has been a win for AQ, including the convenient creation of a staging area in Iraq and motivating instant recruitment to their cause by the invasion of a country that previously wanted nothing to do with AQ.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:47 AM
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24. Dubya in your sig
Seems as if he's drawn by Jim Starlin. Comic book nuts will see the resemblance to his drawing style.
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johnlal Donating Member (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:53 AM
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19. It wasn't a fair election--No time for Spin!
There was no time to spin the catastrophe. Spin doctors are good, but they're not that good.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:02 AM
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20. Funny. These guys all get the same GOP speaking points
and just repeat them word-for-word, as though it's an appropriate thing to say. Today's memo..."Stop election if there is an attack" Do they ever have an independent thought? Do they have even a remnant of morality?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:29 AM
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28. Most likely a common source, meaning, its a set up as mentioned by others
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:42 AM
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29. Let's see how the mainstream media handles this story tonight
Democrats Tally 'Misleading' Iraq Statements
--which, in turn, might explain this one: Iraq Vote Splits Democrats Again

:headbang:
rocknation
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:05 AM
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21. I agree with other DU'ers
this is a talking point and Yes this idea is being floated out to see if the people will fall for it, if an attack happens here.
The right-wing radio hate heads, writers, and tv hate heads do get marching orders, if your paying attention you can see it coming down the pike.
Their leaders are now trying to convince them that postponing elections is alright? What cowards they are if they fall for that BS!

What we should be pushing for 'Critical Thinking' courses for children starting at age five!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:07 AM
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26. Marching orders
If orders come from the White House for Freepers to freep polls (as has been evidenced), you can be damned sure they'd order this line, too.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:55 AM
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35. As I recall...
... one of the big worries in the 2000 Selection was about the deadlines that had to be met. It was reported at the time that the Supreme Court Justices felt that the American people would not be able to tolerate living with the uncertainly about who the president would be if the lawsuits and recounts and such went on even one more day.

So, since we are such an impatient people who can't possibly deal with ambiguity without blowing apart and fighting one another in the streets, I would imagine the Supreme Court would have to rule that elections cannot be delayed simply because of a terrorist act... at least that's what they'd have to say in order to be consistent. Isn't it?
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:35 AM
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22. Rush is a Rich Fascist Propagandist and not much else.
As other threads I`ve seen today. Floating the idea of the elections being nixed in case of another Bu$h Inc. 9-11 or worse kind of disaster. It has been brought to topic by neo-cons like Hannity and Brooks. I told my wife this was going to happen. The very day the latrine court installed a privilged warmongering simp.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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BradCKY Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:41 AM
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23. I like that sig
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 10:08 AM by BradCKY
Al Gore IS the real president he just was denied the office :)
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:44 AM
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Pigboy would support this if it was a Democratic President
sarcasm off

yeah right?


Rush - still being the hypocrit and trying to destroy democrasy.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:44 AM
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30. Pigboy would support this if it was a Democratic President
sarcasm off

yeah right?


Rush - still being the hypocrit and trying to destroy democrasy.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:25 AM
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31. I think I will postpone listening to Rush
until pigs fly or hell freezes, whichever comes first.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:32 AM
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32. Anyway, the evidence suggests that the ruling party lost because they
kept lying about being sure that the Basques were responsible - even when all the evidence was pointing to a Al-Quaeda or a group allied with them. That pissed the Spanish voters off - they don't like being lied to about terrorists or about WMDs in Iraq. Chances are, had the election been postponed, the Socialists would have won an outright majority.

Rush and the other Bushbots should be very afraid.
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guscano Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:50 AM
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33. Letter from a Spanish "decadent" who voted for the Socialist Party
I have been following the international reaction to the Spanish elections and one of the most striking comments I´ve heard coming from some U.S. and British media outlets is that the spanish people are “decadent” because they voted for an appeasement policy towards terrorism. Two of the most hammering media outlets that have said it are the Times of London, England and, of course, Fox News (by a fellow called Krauthammer or something like that. My favourite clown Fred Barnes was not in the Fox news panel, I always have a good laugh listening to his wacky view of the world and U.S. politics and his simple and childish spins ).

Just to let you guys know and can answer to those that have insulted us Spaniards, I´ll give you some arguments that you can use whenever those nutheads say that we did wrong. Bear in mind that what makes them react like that (our election results and the clear statement made by Zapatero yesterday saying that the war was wrong and that spanish troops will withdraw from Iraq) is that both the British and U.S. governments have finally been exposed internationally as what they are: a bunch of liars. They have started to see what can (and I hope will) happen to them in their local elections.

1. Spain has NEVER given up to terrorism.

The Terrorist group E.T.A. has harrased us and tried to obtain political advantages through terrorism for 35 years. They have murdered policemen, military personnel and politicians (many socialists, by the way). Their methods have been the car bomb, the neck shot, the kidnap and then the murder, and many other brutal methods that have also killed many innocent bystanders (they too call it collateral damage).

No government (remember before Aznar we had a socialist government whose president was Felipe Gonzalez) has EVER given up to the E.T.A. blackmail. The government (of every political sign) has always fought terrorism with the law in the hand. No special measures (like you Patriot Act), have been enacted, just more law and more democracy. Actually, that is the reason why it´s still easy for them to commit terrorist acts like the one in Madrid, because we don´t want any security or legal measures that can take away an inch of the hard gained freedom we posses today. In the first public statement of Mr. Zapatero, he clearly said that his priority will be the fight against terrorism. Spain has cracked down on Al-Qaeda in Spain more than any other European country. We have detained many people related with the 9/11 attacks, and this will go on.


2. Iraq has nothing to do with the “War on Terror”

Most spaniards know that the so called ”War on Terror” is an excuse for the Bush administration to unleash it´s imperialistic ideas (well, not his, because I doubt he has the brains for it, but of his henchmen). Most people I know (including voters of Aznar´s Popular Party) were angry at the Bush administration on how they tried to divide Europe (remember Rumsfeld and the “Old” and “New” Europe?), how they tried to undermine the U.N., how they reacted to the French veto calling the countries that were against this mad adventure “the axis of the weasels”, etc, etc. The Iraq war had nothing to do with the war against terrorism, so when our new president said he will withdraw the troops from Iraq on June, 30 (which is the time limit agreed with the U.S.) it does not mean we are cowering, it means we are fixing a mistake (to say it softly) that our former president Aznar had made.

3. The result of the elections is not “because of the bombings”.

There is no doubt that the Madrid bombings had an effect on the voting turnout, but it was not, by any means, the only reason of the defeat of Aznar´s government. As I have said in other posts, one of the reasons was the crude manipulation of the information. We have now learned that the government knew from the beginning that it was most probable that E.T.A. was not behind the attacks, but it was convenient for them to make us believe that it was. This way they would have won by a landslide. On the contrary, if the public knew (as we know now) that it was Islamic terrorism (maybe Al-Qaeda) they would lose (as they did), because this would be the confirmation of what almost 90% of the Spaniards knew: that this stupid alignment with Bush on the Iraq war was not right and that all we would get as a result would be to become a new target for terrorism. They hid vital information from the people, but in such a crude way that even those that had no initial intention to vote, went straight to the booths, and voted against Aznar. That made the difference.

This was one of the reasons, but not the only one. In the past 4 years (after reaching absolute majority in congress) the government had been acting in the same prepotent way in a number of domestic issues, lying and deceiving. This was the case of the glass that starts being filled with water. Every new pitfall and lie by the government added a little more, and finally the Train attack was just the amount that was needed for the glass to start spilling the water all over.


So, my friends, to call the Spanish people “decadents” or “cowards” is an insult to our intelligence and/or a symptom of pure and simple ignorance. But, as I said before, the words by Mr. Zapatero on his first press conference, calling things by its name (namely that the war and the whole concept of “pre-emptive strike” was a huge mistake), has scared the pants out of the other members of the “Azores trio”. And the media associated with them will try to downplay the whole thing saying all kind of twisted and wicked lies so the example doesn’t spread. I know the readers of this forum will not think the same. I hope that this will give you more ammunition to counterattack.


Thanks for letting me express my views.




Gustavo Cano

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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 11:51 AM
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34. Yawn...
What do you expect him to say?

Casting my vote for a "Rush Limbaugh/Hannity Said" forum board.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 03:24 PM
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38. Keep in mind that Rush is under threat of criminal prosecution
if he strays from the talking points on anything more substantial than a preapproved trivial issue.

Anyone but Rush would have been prosecuted federally for the serial transactions of under 10K to avoid the reporting requirements. With that charge the feds would throw in a tax code violation for Rush's role in helping his drug dealer avoid federal income tax by paying her in cash.

Rush is a slave to these people, if they told him to promote burning Democrats homes he'd be explaining the patriotism of that act to his listeners within minutes. It is actually good for Rush that rehab failed, at least he can still be stoned and avoid the stress for moments at a time.
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