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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:11 AM
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Using crazy Friedman's logic the Freepers should be planting bombs
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4540609/

<snip>FRIEDMAN: Well, here‘s what I think is the logic that‘s playing out, Chris. I think that the al Qaeda strategy is as follows.

They are hoping to have—I think it‘s going to be a Tet offensive in September, October in Iraq with the objective of defeating George W. Bush in this election, with the hope of bringing John Kerry in, with the hope that Kerry, uninvested in the war, will withdraw from Iraq. I think that is their clear strategy.

MATTHEWS: Who are we talking about doing this? The Iraqis? Or al Qaeda?

FRIEDMAN: It‘s a combination of al Qaeda and the Iraqi insurgents, basically. That is their strategy.

Which is why I‘ve argued—I wrote a column to this effect that it is very important for Kerry for the safety of our troops, to be saying now, “I will not run. OK? So if you—if your objective is to kill enough Americans to defeat George Bush to get me to run, I will not run.

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Can someone close to Friedman please consider an intervention for this boy? I will kick in for the electroshock therapy fund for him.

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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:15 AM
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1. Sure but Kerry does need to be saying that he will not run from Iraq----
if he looks weak he will not get elected.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:18 AM
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2. Fried Friedman
This guy gets more wak every day.
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Zolok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:30 AM
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3. That is our Tom...
an oracular and unerring ability to predict the past....
If anyone is invested in the Iraq War it is him, so I don't think he ought to be giving advice on war policy to anyone.

www.chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:33 AM
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4. Wonder if he wants to keep his cut of the Bush tax cut for the wealthy?
Nah. Couldn't have nothing to do with it.

Don

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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:34 AM
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5. he's clueless! Al Qaeda needs BUSH to win this year!
First of all, how does he know what their strategy is? He doesn't, he's just guessing.

Second, what he's saying betrays his usual total ignorance of these things.

The worst thing that could happen for terrorists is to have the US led by a president who acts rationally, who thinks about the goals and the consequences of his strategies, and who works closely with other countries, building cooperative relationships.

The BEST thing for the terrorists is a US leader who acts unilaterally, thuggishly and deceptively, pissing off every country in the world, operating under a philosophy that massive military force can resolve all problems, when in fact it just feeds the recruiting of the terrorists.

Al Qaeda needs Bush just like Bush needs Al Qaeda. It's a symbiotic, codependent relationship.

It is SO obvious I have to wonder why Friedman is saying what he's saying, because it is so superficial and wrong!

On the other hand, he was a supporter of Bush's war, and this seems to be their way of silencing the massive discontent that is arising in this country against the war and against Bush.

The typical fascist ploy equating criticism of "the leader" with support for the enemy...
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:38 AM
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6. as for the Iraq insurgents
it was this twisted way of thinking that drew out the Vietnam war and resulted in thousands more american deaths and hundreds of thousands more Vietnamese deaths, the destruction of Cambodian society, etc.

Basically, this kind of argument is saying you can never admit that a policy was a mistake, you should not take into account the costs of a disastrous foreign policy, even if the cost is hundreds of American casualties and thousands of "foreign" casualties.

This is EXACTLY the kind of logic and thinking that inevitably leads to disaster...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:51 AM
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7. i figure they want bush too
they have been wanting war with the world for a long time. bush gave them just what they wanted and he isnt doing a good job, having cleaned out afghanistan to go to iraq and not really focusing on terrorism, but "nation building". leaves them to their message being heard and the anger from muslims and able to grow and strengthen

bush is a known to them, and they are surviving and flourishing
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 08:54 AM
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8. Friedman is another Chickenhawk who took a pass on going to Vietnam
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/FRIEDMAN-BIO.html

<snip>Born in Minneapolis on July 20, 1953, Mr. Friedman received a B.A. degree in Mediterranean studies from Brandeis University in 1975. In 1978 he received a Master of Philosophy degree in Modern Middle East studies from Oxford. Mr. Friedman is married and has two daughters.

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:01 AM
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9. Am I reading this correctly?
He's saying, to keep the terraists from determining the outcome of the election, Kerry should decline to run?

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: Hey everybody, look at me - I'm Thomas Friedman!!! :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

What happened to the man's brain? Surely he had one at some point?


"His brain is gone. It's been removed surgically. It's the greatest technical job I've ever seen. Every nerve ending in the brain must've been neatly sealed. Nothing ripped, nothing torn, no bleeding. It's a medical miracle....





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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:09 AM
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10. You got it. To prevent the terra-ists from affecting the outcome of...
...our elections we just should not have any more elections. That will show them terra-ists they can't affect our elections alright. </scratching my head> Poor Mr. Friedman has gone nuts.

Don

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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:14 AM
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11. Yep. Watch For Limbaugh and his Freeper Lemmings to call for the cancellat
tion of the November elections..

"for the sake of national security" of course..

we're not falling for it!!

if AWOL stays in the white house then the terrorists (and conveniently all the oil big wigs) have won!
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:31 AM
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12. This is the same delusional nitwit that wrote a column titled
"Just Give War a Chance" a couple of months prior to the invasion of Iraq.

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:38 AM
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13. What did he mean with "run"?
Edited on Wed Mar-17-04 09:38 AM by JCCyC
Run from Iraq or run in the election? If it's the former, he's just you run-of-the-mill RW loon. If the latter, he's a raving mad psycho. :crazy:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 09:45 AM
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14. Kerry has already stated on numerous occasions he has no intention...
...of withdrawing the troops from Iraq so I don't know why Friedman would suggest he should say it again? I seen this exchange and it was pretty clear he was talking about Kerry not running for president.

Don

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-04 10:10 AM
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15. OMG! Well, raving mad psycho it is then. Ah well.
I hate it when my goodwill towards mankind is proven wrong. :argh:
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