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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:43 PM
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Poll question: DU attitudes on Iraq War
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:48 PM
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1. I always thought that it was a bad idea
and I took a lot of crap for it...but now those same people have finally seen the light...well most of them
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:57 PM
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2. I am very, very curious about those who were once pro-war but are now
anti. Is it because you fell for the Bush* cabal's WMD tales? Is it because you think we are now into something and we can't find out way out? Not being judgemental, just very curious. I always knew that this was the wrong thing to do, in fact, there was plenty of evidence to support that fact, but you just had to know where to look for it. The way I see it, maybe if we knew exactly what it was that turned you around, maybe we could use it to try to enlighten some of these very weird and crazed people who are still gung ho.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:04 PM
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3. about the only thing I can think of
is that they were convinced by seeing the free Iraqi people. I think that arguement is totally lame personally, just throwing out ideas.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:09 PM
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4. their mantra is usually "Bush didn't do the job right"
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 11:10 PM by Aidoneus
I'm not sure what that means. They invaded, slaughtered thousands, occupied the place, kill a few more every week, working on permanently setting up their puppets, etc.. I can't imagine how the aggression could've been more "right", but I'll leave it up to them to explain that. I guess they didn't let enough European mercenaries in on the action early on, to more fairly divide the plunder?
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:11 PM
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5. opposed since intrusive inspections would have ended Saddam - now
we made a mess we must clean up ASAP
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:12 PM
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6. was always against it
along with the majority of my fellow citizens (although opposition fell to just under 50% with UN approval) which made as all Saddam supporters apparently!

That said I don't beleive the US can just leave now...you broke it you gotta try and fix it, giving the Iraqi's a bit more say and ceasing the sell off of Iraqi public assets to foreign companies would be nice though, might even help convince Iraqis that this wasn't all about an Imperial land grab
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:19 PM
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7. On the 19th, we will have one luminario each for every dead American,
Brit, Pole, and a MASS of luminarios for dead Iraqis.

A time of grief.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:37 PM
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8. I've always been against it
Sure Saddam was a bad guy, but we did build him up in the first place... he "gassed his own people" and what did the good ol' freedom lovin' USA do? we doubled our military aid to him. But I always though that invading Iraq would open a can or worms in the Middle East.

Before the war I was not sure if Iraq had WMDs or not. The UN inspectors never found any concrete evidence of them and I was not about to take that crooked liar Bush's word on it. If they had such good reason to believe that they had WMDs why did they make up all that crap about yellow cake etc?

In any case even if Saddam did have nerve gas or whatever I never believed for a second the garbage about an al Qaeda connection. Al Qaeda hates secular Arab governments as much as they do the United States, and the last thing a paranoid tyrant like Saddam is going to do is give WMDs to an group he could not control.

As it turns out there were no WMDs and Bush's Iraq policy is total disaster like all of his other policies.
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smcmike Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 12:42 AM
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9. Was against it
Am not exactly "for it" now, but we obviously can't just leave, so in that sense I guess i favor us staying, and completing Bush's mission.

I guess I am not in the radically against it camp either, I mean, I think it was a mistake, i think there has been a lot of shady dealings and motives going in, but i think a lot of good COULD come out of it in the long run, and i guess that is what we have to hope for now.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 05:45 AM
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10. We have no choice but to leave
The invasion, in Jay Garner's words, was to implant a permanent military presence there. (See also PNAC). This goal cannot be achieved, as al Sistani (speaking for the mostly quiet 60% majority) is demanding NO military presence after 6/30/04. Jihad otherwise.

The simple fact is that the US can't possibly lock down the whole country without using methods that make Saddam look like Mother Teresa.

IF there is some other goal. it has to be stated in strategically meaningful terms. So far it hasn't been.
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