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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:22 PM
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Media whore telling Kerry to put up or shut up (on hardball)
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 07:26 PM by notadmblnd
Some goofball on hardball just told Tweety that Kerry needs to start naming names about who the crooks are or shut up.

I think we need to compile a list of the known convicted criminals in the administration, I'll start by naming one.



Elliott Abrahms betrayed our country with his involvement in the notorious and illegal Iran Contra Affair (illegal sales of weapons to Iran). Used the profits to fund the Nicaraguan Contras, with the intention that the Contras would use the weapons to effect a violent regime change in Nicaragua. Perjured himself and used deception in the official federal proceedings. Elliott Abrahms has recently been appointed as top National Security Council Envoy to the Middle East.

Who is the New England area govener that is being indicted?
Who is being investigated in Texas, is'nt that DeLay?
Who was the guy that was recently convicted of killing a cyclist with his car?

on edit: bad grammer
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:24 PM
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1. Janklow killed the motorcyclist
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:31 PM
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25. i thought he was a democrat
?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:03 PM
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32. South Dakota Republican, AG then governor for 4 terms and House Rep. 2002+
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 10:05 PM by w4rma
...
Thursday's hearing was the culmination of a spectacular political fall for Janklow, a Republican who served four terms as governor before winning the state's lone House seat in 2002. His political career began in 1974, when he was elected attorney general.
...
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/22/janklow.sentencing/
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:11 PM
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35. ty
i had been pinning that on a democrat all this time
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:25 PM
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2. Ahmed Chalabi
Feeds the Pentagon stories of nukes in Iraq, convicted of bank fraud in Jordan, his brother is awarded Pentagon contracts for Iraq...Pentagon backpedals after it is made public.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:28 PM
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3. And he's still being paid
by the US gov., which means our taxes.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:30 PM
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4. John Poindexter was a convicted felon
He was the 'genius' running DARPA who pushed the Total Information Awareness program. Convicted in 1990 during Iran Contra on five felony counts of conspiracy, making false statements to Congress, and obstructing congressional inquiries into the affair. They were overturned in an appellate court on the grounds that he'd received immunity from being forced to testify in front of Congress -- not because he didn't do it.

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:31 PM
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5. Ah yes, and wasn't he appointed
as the head of the "Office of Special Plans"?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:36 PM
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10. No, I think that was Richard Perle
And he's ABOUT to become a convicted felon.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 08:07 PM
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14. You're right
here's his crime

snip: Admiral Poindexter is probably better known for destroying information than for gathering it. Before a congressional investigating committee in 1986, he admitted that, as President Reagan's national security adviser, he destroyed evidence in connection with the Iran-contra affair. Specifically, he tore up the only signed copy of a document called a "presidential finding" that retroactively authorized shipment of arms to Iran in return for the release of American hostages in Lebanon.

He testified that he did this to avoid embarrassment to Mr. Reagan. Poindexter, like Oliver North, who reported to him, was convicted in federal district court of lying to Congress and of obstruction.The conviction was overturned on technical grounds by an appeals court majority of two Reagan-appointed judges, Douglas Ginsburg and David Sentelle, over the vigorous dissent of Carter-appointed judge Abner Mikva.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1129/p11s01-coop.html


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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:33 PM
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37. Don't forget Ollie North - same guilty verdict, same overturned charge on
a technicality, by a corrupt repuke judge.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:32 PM
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6. C'mon, they all know who they are. . .but let me name a few names. . .
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 07:33 PM by emulatorloo
cuz it will make me feel better

Karl
Drudge
Rush
Murdoch
Eddie Gillespie
Rev Moon
Peggy Noonan
Hitchens
O'Reilly
Hannity
Lucianne
Ann
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:47 PM
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12. Russert, Tweedy, Novakula, etc.
And the whole administration when they arranged for the BinLadens to fly out of the country on 9/12.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:32 PM
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7. Libby committed treason by outing a CIA operative
as a political payback.

Cheney bribed a supreme court justice with airfare and hunting trip.

Bush committed a high crime by lying about the reasons for war.

The whole administration reeks of massive conflicts of interest.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:34 PM
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8. I am so glad Kerry said it. Someone in the right position need to say it
I only wish he could have save it for the debates. He could have named of the Clear Skies, No Child Left Behind, Iraq and intelligence, the medical care package and the unpresendent raid on the SS trust funds as proof. There are many other lies and lyers out there, too numerous to name but Ann Coulter, Rush Limbag and all the wantabees that call themselves republicans.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:35 PM
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9. Investigated? BigFish Himself da Dick....
cheney.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:41 PM
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11. Neal Bush, Chinese contracts and prostitutes sent...
from heaven. 'I just don't know how those prostitutes got in my bed.'

The whole administration: They collected the BinLaden family and allowed them to be the only people to fly out on 9/12. What was poppy bush and other repig senators doing 911? They were in DC meeting with the BinLadens.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 07:53 PM
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13. Lets not forget the aid in Frists office
that stole all the Democratic memos.

Mr. Kerry, are you taking notes?
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 08:11 PM
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15. Wolfowitz, Feith, Perle
All three betrayed the US for a foreign country early in their careers.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 08:15 PM
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16. whoever
it was in the WH that outed Valerie Plame....
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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 08:32 PM
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17. Bush Pioneers
Kenneth Lay - CEO and Chair of Enron

John Drury - resigned as WMX CEO after investors learned that the company had claimed $1 billion in bogus earnings.

Chuck Watson - Ravaged energy giant Dynegy, Inc. ousted founder and CEO Chuck Watson in May 2002, just months after the company ditched plans to acquire Enron http://www.tpj.org/docs/pioneers/pioneers_view.jsp?id=762

Stephen Goddard - Arthur Andersen stripped Goddard of managerial duties in January 2002 for his role in the Enron debacle.
http://www.tpj.org/docs/pioneers//pioneers_view.jsp?id=131

Thomas Hicks - Chair of UTIMCO (UT Investment Management Co.) "Due to Mr. Bush's change in the rules, these investments were hidden from public view; an employee of Utimco who alerted university auditors was summarily fired. Even now, it's hard to find out how these investments turned out, though they seem to have done quite badly."
http://www.getdonkey.com/archives/000394.php

I could go on.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 08:36 PM
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18. Cheney the Dick, Haliburton crook
....Perle, Wolfowitz, Rumfool, Rove, ect ....
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 08:52 PM
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19. Whoever outed Valerie Palme and stole the Senate files
How's that for a start?

Bush II will go down as the most corrupt, lying, criminal administration in history...once the next USAG, Elliot Spitzer, gets done investigating them.

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Papa Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:00 PM
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20. John Negroponte, Otto Reich
crooks
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:53 PM
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30. Negroponte
And he's our UN representative.

Kerry could not have spoken a greater TRUTH.

When I heard what Kerry said I was reminded of that scene in "Almost Famous" in the airplane, which I'm sure is called "Finally the Truth."

"I don't love you, man. None of us do. You act above us, you always have."
"Finally the Truth!"

Finally the TRUTH. They are crooks and liars. They always have been. ALWAYS WILL BE!!!
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:03 PM
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21. Bushs promises and then dumps . How many of those lies has he made
Bushs WMD lies. Cheneys WMD lies.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:11 PM
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22. Don't forget...
You say "Used the profits to fund the Nicaraguan Contras, with the intention that the Contras would use the weapons to effect a violent regime change in Nicaragua."

Don't forget this part: they did this in direct contravention of Congress who had explicitly outlawed contributing to the Nicaraguan Contras shortly before all of this occurred. IOW, it was illegal and went against the Constitutional separation of powers.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:17 PM
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23. cleansing military files
lots of people died in small plane, bullets in head by suicide, though can prove those. bush has a rape assault on him in texas for 2000 woman dead with suicide. i want to know who sent the paper shaving as ricin to cover up the stealing of email.

sending people down to florida to intimidate and riot

getting payoffs for outsourcing for bush and republican party, dont know if clinton did and dont think illegal, does crooked have to be illegal.

having a woman get abortion before legal

scalia on court deciding cheneys court.

during the florida election they took army votes beyond the date. andthere are others there

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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:18 PM
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24. Kerry wasn't making a public accusation. This was a private comment
accidentally picked up on the mike. He doesn't have to put up of shut up. There is already enough information and evidence on record to identify the crooks and liars. Start with Bush, Powell, Condi, Rummy, Perle, and Wolfowitz and the Iraq invasion.

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:35 PM
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26. Enron Execs +++++
These may not be convicted but many probably should be convicted. It is the nature of Republicans to point the finger on everyone else and walk away clean. The double standard is amazing!


*All the Enron Bunch of Thieves should be behind bars at this moment.

*Daddy Bush - The hold family craves oil and anything else they can get their hands on. Still don't know where he was on the day that JFK was killed. What was the Hinkley connection about?

* What is the status of Rush Limbaugh's case?

*WHO should be convicted for allowing OSL's family to leave this country when no one else could. That is a crime!

*Chaney and His No Good Wife Are Living off of Halliburton and refuse to admit it that they still gain money from the contact. Any of us would be in jail for that.

* AWOL is a serious offense for the average American.

*Mommy Bush said it was OK for her son to be a drunk driver

* Laura Bush pretends to be so innocent. Was she drunk when the accident happened? Was she ever charged?

* Girls Gone Wild Were Always Drinking and under age. Not a problem for members of the Bush Clan.


*Neal Bush - got $ Millions for making A phone call to a company

*Jeb Bush stole the election with his "friend" Katherine Harris
His wife tried to take thousands of $$$$ worth of clothes out of Europe without declaring them. Didn't their daughter do some jail time?

*All of the Nixon Friends - John Mitchell(what really happened to Martha when she left us ?), Erlichman and Halderman etc. There were so many of them I can't recall all the names.

*Perle, Ashcroft sure would have seen jail time if the were Democrats.

*Colin and Condi Lied with the Rest Of Them about the WMD and they took over a country that didn't belong to them.

*Haiti - who was behind the coup a few days ago? Not Kerry!

I am getting tired from all of the horrible memories.

And to think that Clinton told a lie about a blue dress and all hell broke out because he "lied."

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:43 PM
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27. redistricting texas
was crooked, not criminal, but certainly crooked. no good ole boy can look me in the eye on that in any kind of integrity
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PA-DEM Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:45 PM
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28. Sean Hannity
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 09:47 PM by PA-DEM
Said 5 times yesterday that Kerry would raise all taxes. The truth is Kerry would raise taxes on those making 200,000 or more. Also lied when he said Kerry voted to gutt 1.5 (million or billion) I forget from the defense budget. Reality he voted to take the 1.5Bill-bill back because it was not spent.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:49 PM
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29. Poindexter and Abrams--both currently in Bush's administration
Both were convicted.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:57 PM
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31. recall in california
not illegal, but crookedin my books
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:08 PM
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33. Do they REALLY want to make whether they are liars an Issue???
Edited on Thu Mar-11-04 10:09 PM by Dr Fate
I know I do.

Bush used fake information from FORGED documents in his State of the Union adress. How is that not lying?

If presenting forged & plagerized documents & faked information to start a war is not dishonest- then what is?
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:11 PM
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34. Yes, Elliott Abrams was pardoned by Bush sr. Pardonees are crooks.
on xmas eve 1992. So was Poindexter and he was part of this admin.
WHO ELSE qualifies on that basis?
make a list.

We need a list of all the pardons GHWBush made on xmas eve 1992. It was a long list of Iran-Contra figures> Now how many of them have resurfaced to work in junior's administration? hmmmm. With all the work Kerry did on Iran Contra before it was shutdown by both parties, I am sure he knows exactly who the crooks are in this administration. He is probably thinking of all the pardons Bush Sr handed out and how so many of those guys are back on board now.

This is the absolute most hypocritical part of this administration. If Hillary is president some day and she would actually appoint someone her husband pardoned when he left to work in her admin, we would never hear the end of it. Of course neither she nor any Democrat would evern appoint a pardonee of a previous admin to theirs, but somehow Junior and his crooked operation get away with it. Never brought up in the press. Never pointed out.

There's the crooks. The pardonees they have had working in this administration. And the lying? Telling us they are honorable men when we know the admin is full of past pardonees, among other things.

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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 11:31 PM
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36. Heh heh heh. "Put up or shut up" -- OK, how much time you got?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1221187

The Bush crime family --

little-known gems include Prescott Jr. (the son of the Nazi money-laundering Prescott Sr.) getting involved with Japanese yakuza gangsters, and setting up a green card scam. (He's Poppy's brother)

Jonathan Bush, another brother of Poppy, had his securities license pulled for multiple instances of fraud

Neil Bush -- Silverado S&L scandal, bilked a few million out of that

Jeb Bush -- palled around with several questionable characters, and successfully lobbied for the pardon of Orlando Bosch, in jail for charges related to the first terrorist bombing of a civilian airliner.

Are they sure they want Kerry to "put up?" -- Because he did some of this investigations of this stuff.

Bev
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 01:27 AM
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38. Katherine Harris
Although not in the BFEE she should get a dishonorable mention.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:10 AM
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39. hiding medicare budget numbers
changing information on studies for minorities differences in healthcare, riding over the scientific studies, hamburgers for manufacture jobs and two months in a row not putting out a number ? that has never been missed since 1940 adn saying it isnt well represented adn definition has to be changed
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