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DEM FAN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:03 AM
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So Let Me Get This Straight. The Whole Selection 2000 Was The
Democrats Fault. Al Gore Is NOT The President Of The United States Because Of Us. I Feel Dirty. How Is It The Democrats Fault That Ballots Were Screwed Up. :-(
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:08 AM
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1. They didn't insist that all the Florida votes be recounted
upon total recount Gore won.
They let themselves get cornered by the arguement that the U$ needed to know who the president was right away which was Repuke and corp media BS.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:10 AM
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2. But wasn't the SCOTUS ruling ...

based in part on the argument that there wasn't time to do the recount?
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Spoon Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:20 AM
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3. Perhaps another DUer can be more specific, but
Edited on Wed Mar-10-04 12:22 AM by Spoon
but I think Buch claimed his civil rights were being violated (ironic, huh) because of targeted recounts. Gore should've requested a state wide recount right off the bat, which would have allowed the time to do so under Florida law (all in hind-sight of course).
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DieboldMustDie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:22 AM
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5. My recollection is that they stalled...
and kept votes from being counted for as long as they could.   Then they went to court and argued that it was too late.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:20 AM
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4. They didn't insist on a lot of things. First there was the story
about the "felons" that weren't felons and were not allowed to vote. The original estimate was 60,000. 90% were Democrats and 45% were African Americans. The number later turned out to be 90,000. They Democrats said nothing about that.

There was a lawsuit where the republicans changed the bad absentee ballots of those voting for Bush, but threw out the Democrats' votes. The court ruled they repubicans could change them. The Dems should have insisted the Democrats votes be counted.

The military votes - the Dems agreed with the repubs that all votes be counted, even if they had no postage mark. In no other election were votes without post marks counted.

The only recounts were in heavily Democratic areas. The big uncounted votes were in the republican areas.

The election was stolen, and the Democrats never said a word. It was a horrible run that Gore did. He should have had the same people Clinton had. He should have gotten Clinton in early on campaigning. And how the hell did he loose Tennessee? If he had won Arkansas or Tennessee, he would be president. OK, Florida was stolen. But the other two?
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robpopulace Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:43 AM
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6. How gore lost TN...
Vote Fraud in Tennessee: Worse than Florida?

By Catherine Danielson, AlterNet
March 13, 2001

<snip>

It isn't just the outrageous racial incidents, such as the way that Black Nashville college students weren't permitted to vote even though they were registered, or the way that Tennessee State University, a historically Black college, was the only university in Tennessee that didn't get a satellite voting place, or election office workers harrassing Black citizens who requested voter registration forms, or election commission officers refusing to give registration forms to NAACP representatives and sometimes (as in Chattanooga) actually taking them back. It's the inexplicable things, such as the way that polling places all over West Tennessee opened one to two hours late, or disappeared and reappeared somewhere else without telling anybody – but, seemingly, only in areas that were Black and/or poor. Or the missing pages from election rosters all over Nashville. Or the county where ballot boxes were opened and ballots handled.

So many vote irregularities were reported that the mind starts to numb after awhile, to get buried under the sheer avalanche and grasp for some sort of meaning and order. So it's instructive to note that there were three areas of evidence that are more disturbing than any other

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=10589
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 12:50 AM
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7. Don't forget how much time was wasted trucking thousands of ballots
Edited on Wed Mar-10-04 12:51 AM by Art_from_Ark
up to Tallahassee so that "Judge" N. Sanders Sauls could "examine" them, which he never did. He merely made a ruling against Gore that cost precious time. Later, the "honorable" judge accepted an invitation, along with Katherine Harris, to attend a Freeper fest in South Carolina.

It's hard to fight when the deck is stacked so much against you.
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