What is the severity of Peak Oil?

[Renew Deal]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1196017

[Birthmark]

1. It's speculative nonsense.

[kalian]

2. Brilliant remark!

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Its like totally bunk, dude!

[Birthmark]

11. I gave the answer that Peak Oil deserves.

It's just more apocalypse on the brain nonsense. I especially like the part where we decide to let the majority of humanity die rather than think up some ways to solve the problem. I think "The Omen" is more credible - and I'm an atheist.

[maggrwaggr]

12. so ... you think there's an unlimited supply of oil?

how do you suppose the corporate-controlled US government is gonna deal with the problem?

The demand for oil is only going up.

The supply is only going down.

At the very least we're looking at massive inflation due to that simple fact.

And that's just for starters.

[Birthmark]

14. I don't disagree

I don't disagree with the fact that oil is a limited, non-renewable (on our timescale, anyway) resource. What I disagree with is the idea that this is going to somehow cause the complete collapse of civilization. There will be changes, as there constantly are in our dynamic society. We will no doubt find solutions. Or maybe we won't find a 100% solution and have to scale back some. But to claim that a sizeable portion of humanity is going to die is a bit hyperbolic and unjustified by any real evidence.

[mhr]

3. Peak Oil Links Here

Websites of interest include:

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Home.html
http://globalpublicmedia.com/
http://www.oilcrash.com/
http://www.wolfatthedoor.org.uk/
http://www.durangobill.com/Rollover.html
http://www.asponews.org
http://www.gulland.ca/depletion/depletion.htm
http://www.dieoff.org/
http://www.oilanalytics.org/
http://www.greatchange.org/
http://www.oilcrisis.com/
http://www.after-oil.co.uk/
http://www.hubbertpeak.com/
http://hubbert.mines.edu
http://www.museletter.com/archive/cia-oil.html

Books:

Out of Gas: The End of the Age of Oil
by David Goodstein

The Party's Over: Oil, War and the Fate of Industrial Societies
by Richard Heinberg

Hubbert's Peak : The Impending World Oil Shortage
by Kenneth S. Deffeyes

The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight : Waking Up to Personal and Global Transformation
by Thom Hartmann

The Oil Factor: How Oil Controls the Economy and Your Financial Future
by Stephen Leeb, Donna Leeb

News Groups:

Energy Resources
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/energyresources/

Alas Babylon
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AlasBabylon/

Running on Empty
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RunningOnEmpty2/

[hellhathnofury]

4. Is the jist of Peak Oil that eventually oil (a non-renewable resource)...

is eventually going to reach a low enough supply level that demand will eclipse it causing all sorts of problems?

[Dissenting_Prole]

5. Yes.....Any day now

http://www.brant.net/gvmr/electric.htm

[arcos]

6. Yes...

And extraction is getting more expensive, you will soon need 10 barrels of oil to produce 10 barrels of oil, and that's where it loses the whole point. It will become way too expensive to do anything with it.

[arcos]

7. it's not severe, it's catastrophic... n/t

[fla nocount]

8. Bunk, it's enabling to those who skills,

allow them to survive and move to the next level that we all allude to but refuse to own or support. Personally, I'm tired of waiting for "Peak Oil". "End of the world"?................for who?

[arcos]

9. oh, I totally agree...

but you have to admit it is catastrophic... it will change civilization as we know. Of course it is a catastrophe, but I think it is well overdue. It's the only way to build a civilization based on tolerance and respect.

Yes, it's the end of the world, for all of us. The end of the world as we know it. It is good and bad at the same time.

[fla nocount]

10. You're okay by me, my friend...........

It's time for something new. I beleive that something new has been aborning for quite sometime now but that it's economic impact is not predictable as yet and that explains the reluctance and hesitation in it's release. We would have seen alternates long ago if there were a method to meter sunbeams, control which way the wind blows or limit the availability of hydrogen,LOL.

The dinosaurs are dying, let's pay homage to the gifts of age of reason while condemning it's excesses.........now, let us get on to something else. There will be bodies.........oh, yes.

[maggrwaggr]

13. gee, end of the world for millions ... but not for you.

I guess you've got your own land, your own food supply, your own barbed wire, your own animals, and your own guns.

Bravo!

[Renew Deal]

15. I noticed that

And I was thinking the same thing for myself.