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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:01 PM
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This is the most united I've ever seen the Democrats...
and, I believe, that if we can keep this unity, bush will get blasted right out of the WH in a landslide.

Is it possible, to bring this unification even tighter?

Sure it is; but we must push aside little differences that have plagued us over the decades. I know that we are all opinionated, and there are many times when we allow some of our ideological points override the greater good of the party, but this next General Election has far too much at stake for us to sit by and act out desperate measures.

I will not say that anyone should betray something that they feel is the core of their existence, but I would ask that people take a hard look at what they consider points that would keep them from voting against bush by voting for another candidate, or not casting a ballot for the Dem nominee.


The unity we have can be fractured, ours is a diverse party, not a single issue party like the GOP. They talk big on diversity, but they are motivated, recently, by the Religious Right. We all know this is not the Party of Lincoln, or even Eisenhower; it is the party of greed and manipulation. We cannot afford to allow this country to have 4 more years of bush.

I ask that everyone that loves freedom and representative government, vote against this regime and get out and get others to do the same.
The GOP is on the run, we can beat this clown, but we must remain united to the cause of giving this nation back to every one of its citizens, and yes, that does include repukes that have been deluded by bunch and his minions from hell.

Thank you for allowing me to rant on, now let's get to work and beat these bastards!

O8)

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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:03 PM
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1. * is toast
Democrats will come out like never before, people want these assholes gone!!!

Democrats are united, and time will only bring us closer together.

Thanks for this post, soon this administration will be nothing more than a bad memory.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:04 PM
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2. No circular firing squads this year
There are certainly differences, and always will be, but never has an election been as crucial as this year's. Bush has got to go!
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:06 PM
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3. When they say that they're the "party of Lincoln"
My response is: can you actually sit there and with a straight face tell me that if slavery were still extant today in the U.S., then the Republican Party would be the party of Abolition?

Whom are they kidding? I can see Novak and will preaching those tenets. Uh-huh.

You are absolutely right about unity - it's like when a disaster occurs on a block - everyone pours out to help the afflicted.

And we are afflicted...
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:07 PM
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4. This toon says it all...
There are still far more Dems in the country than Republicans.

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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:12 PM
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14. LOL!...
that is great!

:bounce:
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:08 PM
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5. Here, here!
I wholeheartedly agree!!!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:08 PM
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6. Here's to unity!
:toast:
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:11 PM
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7. Huge groundswell in my small Maine community and county
Huge--they have come out fighting. The caucus did not have eneough room or enough forms. They signed up to work in enormous numbers--far more than ever. People are determined here to vote this cheap, wannabee, charlatan and his fat assed, dumbassed wife, out of our house.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:22 PM
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8. That Bush Baby, he's a "uniter". . .
n/t
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:34 PM
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9. I am not a member of an organized political party
I am a Democrat. ;)

This unity is unprecedented. People could not be more fired up. The stories of previously politically apathetic people as well independents and moderate republicans all being energized to de-select Former Governor Bush are too widespread not to be meaningful.

If we can stick together and weather the inevitable lies, slander and smears from the right wingers, we WILL be victorious. There are more of us than there are of them, and every day some of them are becoming us! We just need to keep the pressure on until the last poll closes in November and make sure the turnout is as high as possible.

The people, united, shall never be defeated!

:toast:
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:36 PM
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10. Am I the only one to notice that whenever anyone talks about compromise...
what they mean is that left wing Dems should compromise on their views, yet the centre Dems should not have to compromise on theirs?

Every time I see talk of "If you don't vote for so and so, you are voting for Bush", all I see is "Stuff you, because you have no choice!"

If the centre Dems are so concerned about winning, maybe THEY should be courting the LEFT rather than the other way round? In fact, is it not the CENTRISTS that are holding the US to ransom by threatening to vote for Bush unless the Dems move to the right? Yet they point the finger at the left wing!
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:41 PM
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11. No.
No centrist democrat is threating to vote for Bush. The democratic party is trying to attract moderate swing voters to vote for us instead of for Bush. The fact is there are more of them than there are potential "Nader" voters, so who is going to get pandered to?

The more the Naderites threaten to vote for "Nader" the more the dems have to go after the centrist swing voters.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 10:43 PM
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21. WHUP, There It Is!
Another Democratic shortcoming blamed on Nader. Damn, even I am starting to wish Nader would go away, just to see the Democratic party take responsibility for it's many problems. But, then again, as we've seen before, if not Nader, it would be Dean, or Kucinich, or, well, we all get the idea.

Even Al From didn't blame the Florida debacle on Nader, for many good reasons, including the DLC's complicity in the matter. So instead of confronting our own internal problems, a scapegoat is offered, let us all have a two minute hate.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 10:58 PM
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22. Two minutes are up...LOL...
now, solidarity once again. It is what will bring the cabal down!

O8)
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:48 PM
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26. Bzzzzt Wrong.
Dean and Kucinich (politicaly I am closer to Kucinich than anyone else BTW) particpated in the process, unlike Nader. Unlike Nader both of those guys made a positive contribution to the Democratic Party. Both of those guys will have delegates at the convention, again unlike Nader.

Nader is getting the blame for Nader's actions. Blame the DLC all you want, but the DLC's primary gaol is to get Democrats elected, or perhaps you would prefer four more years of Bush? :shrug:
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:26 PM
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30. Is there?
the fact is there are more of them than there are potential "Nader" voters, so who is going to get pandered to?

Is that right? So tell me again, how did Nader cost Gore the election again?

Come on, surely it is one or the other - either there are less lefties willing to vote for Nader than centrists willing to vote Dem, in which case Nader (and the Greens) are no threat, OR, the lefties are actually more numerous than the centrists and thus by leaving threaten the Dems.

It can't be BOTH.

Either they can affect the election or they can't. If they can't, then quit blaming them for the loss in 2000, if they can, then perhaps the "running to the right" strategy is actually counter-productive.

Unless of course the "running to the right" has NOTHING to do with getting votes, and EVERYTHING to do with getting corporate support and money, and paying back said support and money...

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:56 PM
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27. i am compromising.
i am not even a democrat guy and i am compromising. i am compromising on a lot of things i want out of the government. you arent the only one sacrificing.

so basically you feel in the whole, one of the smallest segments, the far left, shouldnt have to compromise at all. 80% of the people should compromise to the small group

right now we have a nation having to compromise to the small right. does it make sense that we are all living a life of the fews belief.

so ya, it is for all of us to compromise
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:43 PM
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31. If you think lefties are not compromising, why is it that America is not..
a communist state?

For the lefties their entire political "career" is based on compromising - getting a little of what they want. What the "run to the right people" are demanding is that they get NONE of what they want, and that they should just shut up and accept it.

Is that supposed to be democracy?

If you don't agree with the lefties, that is fine, but don't blame them because YOUR guy can't win. If he NEEDS their support to win, then he MUST give them some of what they want. Just telling them to shut up and take it, is not going to work.

Like I said, it all boils down to what the Dems need more - suppport from their natural base (ie people who would never vote repub) or support from people who may vote Dem this time, but could just as easily vote repub next time. In other words which is most expendable?

I think Nader and the Greens showed the Dems that there are less votes to gain in the centre than there are to lose on the left, and losing the left to gain the centre is a recipe for electoral defeat.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:42 PM
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12. Isn't it great?
And the best part is, it's spontaneous! This movement has been here all the time and is growing, practically on its own. Now that the campaign is in full swing, it can only get better.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 06:13 PM
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13. I can see the fire, I can feel the heat...
I am in Nebraska, and even here, you would be hard pressed to hear ANYONE defending this piece of trash that is in OUR WH.

There is a deep rift in the GOP, and we can take advantage of that.

Use cool heads, and facts to disassemble the fractured lies this corrupt administration have forced upon this nation. Let's get this moron out, and get our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines home.

Let's get our Constitution and the Bill of Rights back.

Let's send these hell spawned bastards back to where they came from.

We are beating them on every front, and legions of swing voters and GOP'ers are rallying to our side.

God I feel GOOD!

O8)
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:21 PM
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15. You nailed it. I'm 65 years old and have
never seen Dems this fired up. Go Nebraska! (however, does not apply to football when they play Penn State).
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:30 PM
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16. LOL...
the Huskers are getting pretty bad lately.

O8)
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 08:33 PM
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17. You are right...and ain't it grand,..nited we stand,divided we
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 08:36 PM by ignatius
LOSE..let's keep our eye and our focus on the prize..booting Dimson's ass out of our White House!!!!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:17 PM
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18. I can't wait for that day!
O8)
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 09:29 PM
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19. I love it.
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 09:31 PM by Zorra
Nothing and/or no one is going to divide us. It's not nice to steal elections, and Democrats don't take kindly to having their democracy shattered.

Let's get 'em.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 10:24 PM
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20. precisely...
and now that the media is looking into BBV, things are relly looking up!

:kick:
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Pobeka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:26 PM
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23. Yes, it's great. Keep up the heat and make this a clear MANDATE!
A message needs to be delivered to the criminals at all levels in government next November!
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:07 AM
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29. I think it would be ghreat if...
the new AG had the cabal arrested for High Crimes and Misdemeanors, right after the inauguration. If I was the new pres, I would!

O8)
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:02 PM
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32. Considering that bunkerboy and his gang of thugs got over 500,000 votes
LESS than President Gore, there is no way in hell they could claim even a one person majority was NOT a mandate!
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BGAL1965 Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:42 PM
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24. The last time i saw this unity
was in 1964 when Johnson swamped Goldwater.Little did the world know what that victory protended.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 11:44 PM
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25. As the Bushies will say " Was it over when Iraq Bombed the WTC"
lol
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jeanmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:15 AM
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28. Junior really is a uniter!
ABB is leading the day!
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