Bush never flip flops! He says what he means, and DOES IT.

[Madrone]

Arghhh - I'm hearing this a lot from our right-wing "friends." Obviously, we know this is absolutely untrue. The problem I'm having (and I'd like to refute these idiots) is finding a comprehensive list online that shows all of the things GW gave lip service to, without following through on.

The statement below is exactly what I am trying to disassemble:

"I personally think the greatest thing Bush has going for him is that if he says he will do something, you know it will happen. Even if you don't agree with what he says, at least you know where he stands and that he will follow through--more than what you can say about most politicians......"

Any takers?

[boobooday]

1. You can count on him alright

To do the opposite of what he says.

Help AIDS victims in Africa.
"Clean Skies" hahahahaha
"Healthy Forests" hahahaha
"No Child Left Behind" muhahahaha

He has underfunded/misnamed every proposal he has put out there.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[teach1st]

2. Flip flop flap

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1199420

[terrya]

3. He ran as a "compassionate conservative", for Christ's sake.

This adminstration is the most radical administration in recent history. I'd argue that he flipped-flopped on his entire agenda.

Terry

[many a good man]

4. Biggest flipflop: "Humble nation"

He said he didn't think America should be involved in nation building or telling other countries what to do...

[AmyStrange]

5. here's one...

how can you be considered a compassionate conservative and be for an ammendment that discriminates?


Dave (AmyStrange.com) Ayotte
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[LuLu550]

6. Common Cause sent me a letter with info about the military

I'm sure it is on their web site, in a nutshell, shrub says he supports the military, keeps those serving in Iraq in the dark about how long they will be there, extends their tours of duty after telling them they are going home. Sends them into combat without flak vests, they have to pay for meals in hospital, long waits for the wounded to get rehab and anything but life-saving surgery, cutback hazardous duty pay, makes them pay for their own plane tickets from Germany or Washington DC to their homes.
I know I left things out, but this kind of "flip flop" is not about health care, or jobs...it's about the people he says are heroes and should be treated with respect.

Oh yeah, and he actually said he would not use 911 for political gain. I'm sure the link is out there.

[59millionmorons]

7. Poooof, Your wish is my command

Really now, coming up with Bush flip flops is like catching fish in a barrel. Bush Flip-Flops

Bush is against campaign finance reform; then he's for it.
Bush is against a Homeland Security Department; then he's for it.
Bush is against a 9/11 commission; then he's for it.
Bush is against an Iraq WMD investigation; then he's for it.
Bush is against nation building; then he's for it.
Bush is against deficits; then he's for them.
Bush is for free trade; then he's for tariffs on steel; then he's against them again.
Bush is against the U.S. taking a role in the Israeli Palestinian conflict; then he pushes for a "road map" and a Palestinian state.
Bush is for states right to decide on gay marrage, then he is for changing the constitution.
Bush first says he'll provide money for first responders (fire, police, emergency), then he doesn't.
Bush first says that 'help is on the way' to the military... then he cuts benefits
Bush-"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. Bush-"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care.
Bush claims to be in favor of the environment and then secretely starts drilling on Padre Island. Bush talks about helping education and increases mandates while cutting funding.
Bush claims to be for women's rights and then nominates judges who have tried to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Bush first says the U.S. won't negotiate with North Korea. Now he will
Bush goes to Bob Jones University. Then say's he shouldnt have.
Bush said he would demand a U.N. Security Council vote on whether to sanction military action against Iraq. Later Bush announced he would not call for a vote
Bush said the "mission accomplished" banner was put up by the sailors. Bush later admits it was his advance team.
Bush was for fingerprinting and photographing Mexicans who enter the US. Bush after meeting with Pres. Fox, he's against it.

[LuLu550]

10. how about Haiti?

Didn't want to send in troops to help the disliked and controversial, democratically elected president in power, now there we are!

[mike1963]

8. If that were even true, it's no merit badge...it's a symptom of a closed

mind. Or a very defective one. As we all know, one indication of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

[CatWoman]

9. ....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x443810

[wryter2000]

11. Dupe

You got here first, Catwoman.

Besides, who cares if he's consistent, if he's consistently wrong?

[CatWoman]

13. nah

i just wanted to direct the poster to the video.

That's such a great video.

Funny as hell :D

[BeatleBoot]

12. DemDem beat me to his/her earlier post

here's the post that i would refer you to:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x442973

Thanks DemDem!!!!!!!!!!!!

:yourock:

Rock On Brother John!!!

[frylock]

14. bush waffle house list from du v1.0

compliments of DU poster swinney:

tell the peoplWAFFLE HOUSE------------------------------------------------------------------------------
“I say what I mean and mean what I say”
“Promises made-Promises kept”
“When I make up my mind it stays made up”
“I do not take cues from anyone”
“You can’t say one thing and do another”
“Trust me I’m a straight shooter”
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1.Osama Bin Laden is my number one priority. (at least this week)
2. We need an Office of Strategic Influence (Next decade maybe)
3. I will follow the UN Resolution as long as it takes-10-27-02
10-31-02—The UN needs to act now
2-13-03—The UN needs to show courage (like I did during Vietnam.)
4. I am a strong believer in Fair Trade—(except steel and softwood lumber) (votes first)

Ed Crane—Co-Founder and President of The Cato Institute-“Everything this
administration does is political”

5, We do not need for the Homeland Security Department to be a Cabinet position.
I made up my mind on it. Boston Globe—6-9-02 “Bush Flip Flop”
6. I will get Osama Bin Laden “Dead or Alive”—(go get em cowboy)—5-13-02-(“I don’t know where he is, I have no idea and I really don’t care.) (It’s not that important. It’s not out first priority”) (“I say what I mean”). (“When I make up my mind it stays made up”).
7. I will use the bully pulpit with OPEC. (Sic em bulldog my gas now 1.65 per gallon)
Supply went down and Prices went up and (“This is just the Free Market at Work”)
8. I will never apologize to the Chinese for “stealing our plane”. Please guys! Be nice.
Return our plane. “I regret it”
9. I mean what I say—“We can expect an attack”. Each month warning. When BOY?
10. Wash. Post-2-8-03—Bush seeking a promise from IRAN (Evil) for humanitarian help
in event a slaughter is done in Afghan. (Sounds like Reagan?)
11. NYT-1-23-03—Bush (Man of steel will) “rescinding” a new policy that allowed
managed care organizations to limit and restrict coverage of emergency services for poor people on Medicaid.
12. We will not negotiate with North Korea. Wash Post 1-16-03—Bush is now willing to consider agricultural and energy aid. (Hold on! This is EVIL of axis)
13. Individual investors who borrow money to buy dividend paying stocks should be penalized.(Gosh! What did I say—I did not mean it) NYT 2-5-03
14. I mean what I say until yelling starts. Military pay increase of 2% then 4%.
Stars & Stripes-12-30-02—Bush asked Defense Dept. to lower the announced pay raise for the military from 3.7% to 2%. Finally got 4 in 2004 budget.
15. “I am tired of all the Lying and Deception”—Amen! Hallelulah! Then stop it Boy.
16. I mean what I say—I am the education president. Please. First budget increased by 1,5% which had averaged 7% increase per year over five years. (Sounds like Clinton the Educated educator to me.)
17. Wash Post-12-2-02—In June 2002 Bush promised 500 Million to fight mother-child transmission of Aids . In Aug he vetoed the first transfer of the 500 million. In 111 days since his promise 222,000 babies have been infected with Aids. (I wonder if Jesus Christ is tossing in his bed)


18. “Secretary O’Neill is doing a good job. The economy is improving. I have faith in him”. (your faith lasts two weeks boy)

19. The Homeland Security Bio-Terrorism Bill is too expensive. I will veto it. An Ok is not a veto boy.
(I mean what I say” but maybe I will not this time.)

20. I do not approve of an Independent Investigation of 9-11. (“I mean what I say” but—yelling is too loud).

21. I am against international money laundering controls. (9-11—“I changed my steel mind”) They may catch daddy.

22. We will have major social security changes. Wash Post. 11-11-01—Andrew Card on Meet the Press on 11-10-02 “I am not sure we will reform it” This was a Centerpiece of his campaign..

23. 12-30-02—We will not tolerate a North Korean nuclear arsenal. (Act nice guys if you want our $$$)

24. We do not hit civilian targets(in Afghan). There is no evidence. (Red Cross building not civilian—Veterans Hospital is military—Warlord Party heading to Kabul to celebrate was armed with .22 rifles—Wedding Party was violent and firing in the air at our planes 20,000 feet above them)

25. Wash Posr-11-15-02—“If you are not happy with the administration’s policy toward Iraq at any given moment just wait a week or two. A new policy, more your liking, is bound to appear”.

A. Go it alone week
B. Let us wait for UN week
C. “regime change” is goal
D. remove wmd is goal
E. Secretary of State is nor speaking for the president
F. Attorney General is not speaking for the administration.
G. I am sick and tired of this waffling and waiting.


26. Steel Tariff—I really did not mean that much. I angered some people. Reduce it.
(When I make up my mind it stays made up)
27. Carbon Dioxide is a power plant pollutant I will control.. (Oh! It will be too costly to my energy contributors so forget it suckers—cough cough)
28. Reuters-6-26-02—‘I have confidence in the Palestinians when they understand we are saying they must make the right decisions”—“I can assure you we will not be putting money into a society which is not transparent and which is corrupt”.


(Was he referring to his administration? Sounds like it—transparent—corrupt)

29. I am against human cloning in any form. (well, not quite “any”)
30. “I knew nothing about dangers of 9-11”. Eight months later. “I knew a damn bunch (but I was too busy on Vacation and looking for more to blame on that President who stomped my dad. Darn it is tough being dumb, inarticulate and following such a brain and great success)
31. “I am in excellent physical condition.” (Darn, staying up till midnight in Paris zapped all my energy—Boy—try conditioning your mind))
32. I am on top of everything. (Why did you say twice on TV—“I am not in control the Pentagon is running the War (Afghan)—You have a White House base—same as Al Qaeda. Only more secretive)
33. I will veto bill increasing benefits for disabled military retirees (Yep!He was war hero.. 6-20-02 in Wash Post. I do not change my mind. Until 2004 Budget).
34. 6-14-02—released 23,653 of ”cherry picked” Reagan papers after refusing to do it. “When I make up my mind it stays made up” Is this BOY real ?”
35. I mean what I say—‘I will provide 100 million to help preserve the Rain Forest”
36. Budgeted funds for his dad’s Crusader cannon then demanded that Congress kill the big sucker.
37. Airline Security is very important to me. Then, why did you fight so hard to keep guns out of cockpits?
38. Barred part-time Mexican and Canadian students from U.S. schools after 9-11. Then, after howls reversed his decision. “When I make up my mind”
39. Simon (candidate for Gov. of California). “He is a breath of fresh air.”
Bush sho hated that California Smog for he avoided Simon while in his presence.
40. “I will not engage in bailing out countries.” 30 billion to Brazil just a tip?
41. NY Times-Richard Stevenson-2-14-03—“Bush eases Ban on AIDS money to pro-abortion groups broad.. What will he tell Falwell?
42. March 6—“We will call for a UN Security Council vote.” Geo. Bush
March 13—“There may be no vote” Colin Powell
43. NY TIMES-“Bush promises to adopt peace plan”. The Guardian-“Bush reversed his previous insistence that the Middle East Peace effort must wait till after Iraq (Slaughterama)




44. NY TIMES--Edmund L. Andrwews-2-26-03—Less than a month after President Bush proposed a radical overhaul and expansion of individual retirement and savings account the White House has abandoned their idea. (“When I make up my mind it stays made up”) (“Promises made promises kept”) (I say what I mean and mean what I say”)
Who in heck is in charge of this Waffle House?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=3036&forum=DCForumID12&archive=

[tameszu]

15. Some huge ones:

-Bush vs. Bush debate on the Daily Show (about a humble foreign policy and why it is wrong to engage in "nation building")

-Touting No Child Left Behind and then not funding it.

-Putting WTO-violating steel tariffs into place for a bunch of swing states for pure political gain, but then retracting them when the WTO (predictably) ruled them illegal and allowed the EU to put tariffs on other swing state products.

-Saying he would put $5 billion into the Global AIDS Fund and then only budgeting half that amount.

-Naming a policy "Clear Skies" that actually increases the amount of emissions that corporations can put into the air.

-"Mission Accomplished"

-Lied about not running a deficit.

[K8-EEE]

16. His Excuse Is Always "9/11 Changed Everything"

Whenever they bring up nation building etc which he said he was against.

First of all I'm sick of that 9/11 Changed Everything bullshit -- why don't they just say the terrorists won then? Surely we will never forget 9/11 but why let them dictate how we will run our country and what freedoms are now suddenly "too dangerous" like free speech and assembly around GWB's appearances for instance.

Frankly IT IS A WASTE OF TIME TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE LIKE THAT. Bush has the Ostriches all sewed up, they will excuse him any bungle and think he's fucking Jesus W. Christ. We need to be more aggressive with getting to the people who didn't vote last time, and clue them in on what will happen (draft wise etc.) if W gets elected.

[TankLV]

17. Kinda like his "consistency" on Osama Bin Who.

nt