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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 02:01 AM
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Bush ground zero ads...what's the fuss?
I don't understand....I really don't. I intend no disrespect to the family's who lost loved ones but what's the big deal? As far as Bush's remark that he wouldn't seek to politicize the isseu...Dems should have been smart enough not to get sucked in....again. As soon as Bush said he wouldn't politicize the issue it should have been assumed by anyone with a brain that that is exactly what he intended to do. Let's face it, it is a political issue. How can it be described as anything else? Politicians are responsible for insuring our national security. Bush, the politician most responsible for this task failed miserably and 3,000 people paid the ultimate price. After his failure, he strode through the rubble, over the dead and took what amounted to a bow.

How can the Democratic disinterest in holding him publicly responsible for this failure be construed as traveling the high road? Why is the Democratic party not producing commercials which describe his actions during the attack and his administrations efforts to impede investigations into the circumstances which preceded it? Why is Condoleeza Rice not being berated for her cavalier disregard of warnings that such an attack was immanent?

I could go on and on but contemplating the situation as it has been allowed to unfold makes me physically ill.

It seems to me that the GOP commercials depicting Bush's failure as heroic are the perfect invitation to drop a sixteen ton weight on his head. Why are the Democrats not taking the opportunity to do so? It would not only be wise but it seems to me it is their responsibility to do so....a responsibility that they have for some reason intentionally neglected. Once again they have allowed the competition to frame the debate. The media is a powerful tool....it is the ultimate public forum. Political impeachment may be impossible but public impeachment is not. Sadly the Democrats seem interested in neither. How many more must die before they say enough? How many more must die before they quit wringing their hands and define themselves as being a group of men and women who are more concerned with their responsibility to protect the people of America from a bumbling dunce than lifetime careers as politicians? When will they take the risk and possibly make the sacrifices we the people are constantly reminded we must make?

It's time for the Democrats to quit their molly coddling, mealy mouthed ways and call a spade a spade. You can have the best defense in the world but if you never run the ball down the field you'll never win the game.

RC
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 02:03 AM
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1. because the ensuing "the Democrats are playing politics with 9/11" storm
Edited on Sun Mar-07-04 02:05 AM by thebigidea
would last for WEEKS.

When Dubya does it, its a two-days news blip.

Confounding, isn't it. If Bush wants to run on 9/11, you're right - give him his goddamn 9/11.

commercials with:

"All in all, me and Laura have had a fabulous year."

"Lucky me, I hit the trifecta."

BUSH KNEW, etc.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 02:09 AM
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2. have you ever made a TV commercial?
Edited on Sun Mar-07-04 02:10 AM by NJCher
Making a suitable commercial that would respond effectively to bush's ad takes awhile. There are strategists, copywriters, producing, etc. Not to mention it is extremely and I mean extremely expensive.

It's unrealistic to expect an out-of-the-box response to bush's ad so soon. Furthermore, to immediately jump on it would only feed into the RNC accusation that "it's just politics."

Best to let the media pillory him over it, as CBS News did late last week.


Cher

:hi:

on edit: Hi, bigidea!



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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 02:50 AM
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5. unless you're talking low budget. Hand me enough coffee, lock me in a room
Edited on Sun Mar-07-04 02:51 AM by thebigidea
I'm done by morning.

Oh yeah, leave FOX on in the background to enrage. That helps.

Hmm. Come to think of it - hmmmm.

Why do ideas always strike during those weird limbo hours after midnight?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 03:09 AM
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7. lesse... howsthis:
FADE IN to small room, a man with his back to the camera watches a tv showing images of Bush and the 9/11 firemen/casket.

TV VOICE: "George Bush wants to run on 9/11, shamelessly pimping the dead for his political gain."

MAN watching TV turns to the camera.

MAN: "Ok, Mr. Bush - let's recap."

GRAPHIC: animated ONE over quick barrage of newspaper headlines, daily briefing title: "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE US", etc)

MAN: "One. You were asleep at the wheel for the worst security failure in the history of this country, after dozens of warnings."

GRAPHIC: animated TWO over sequence of stills of Bush reading to children, Card whispering, etc.)

MAN: "Two. You read a book about goats for a photo op after the first plane hits."

GRAPHIC: animated THREE over stills of Scaredy-Bush & cell phone fundraiser photo.

MAN: "Three. You crisscoss the country making desperate phone calls to Dick Cheney after the the second plan hits... and then sell pictures of it."

GRAPHIC: animated FOUR over Osama pics, smiling Bush, newspaper headlines about Iraq.

MAN: "Four. You ground all planes - except those carrying Bin Laden's family, swear to smoke him out, lose interest, and invade Iraq instead."

camera pulls away from images on TV set, man address camera again.

MAN: "So sure, Mr. Bush - run on 9/11. Because we remember."

STILL of 9/11 image from Bush commercial.

BUSH: "Lucky me, I hit the trifecta."

(audience applause and laughter, Bush chuckles as the commercial FADES OUT.)

--

I'll shoot something like it this week. Hmmm. Shorten it a bit, do some radio versions too.

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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 03:31 AM
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9. This sounds great.
Edited on Sun Mar-07-04 03:31 AM by Kool Kitty
So, brew that coffee and get busy. You're the perfect person to do this.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 04:17 AM
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12. I'm a bit exhausted now, but I did gather together some images
dunno if I wanna star in it or ask a friend to do it, I'll figure that out when I wake up... ah, insomnia!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 04:20 AM
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13. Bless you, dear-
I knew we could count on you.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 03:37 AM
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10. yea man...
let's see it...

some of your other stuff was pretty good...I'm sure you can pull that off...!
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 04:16 PM
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25. I'm on the job!
Its coming out pretty good so far...
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 05:37 PM
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29. I can't wait for the finished product!!
Once I have finished building my new box I plan to do some flash pieces. I shall send them to the DNC as a contribution to use as they see fit. My guess is I won't even get a response. To those who say I'm being negative....My infamous Senator...Mr. Daschle has not once responded to emails I have sent him....which is odd because I am probably one of a group of 50 people in Western South Dakota that voted for his ass. I won't make that mistake again.

RC
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 09:08 AM
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16. However, NJ, the thing to remember is that this type of Bush ad
was easily anticipated by even us doofuses here in DU -- certainly there has been preliminary work done on Dem ads that refute this exact type of Bush ad. It is a given that Bush and his cronies will use fear in their ads, and what fear has given them their money's worth in the last 3 years??? Yep, 9/11. Anyone who DIDN't think they would use it is crazy.

So, an ad denouncing the fearmongering should have been broadcast and printed the day after Bush's ad was released.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 01:41 PM
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21. My point is, is that the project should have been undertaken
The minute Bush said "I will not politisize 9/11". The very fact that he said it should have been an immediate tip off that that is EXACTLY what he intended to do.

And Yes I am quite aware of what is entailed in producing a conventional commercial. I once was a struggling actor...and have been in commercials, made for TV series and major motion pictures.

I've also seen some damn fine, competent, hard hitting Macromedia Falsh pieces...which would NOT cost huge somes of money to produce. In fact several of the members of this board produce them on a fairly regular basis....non of whom I would imagine spend much money doing so. What would cost money is airtime....and I should think that would be an expense the Democratic party would feel is well worth shouldering.

RC
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 02:16 AM
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3. Bush is running based solely on one of the worst security failures...
...since 1865.


Yes 9/11 is a political issue, but Bush has been exploiting this to a disgusting degree while accusing Democrats of doing this. He has used it ti go to Iraq, he has used it to pass restrictive regulations. He has used it to make America more of a theocracy and is now using it to get himself re-elected. The people who are complaining about it know that something that is a personal scar for them is being exploited by Bush. THis is why it is a problem. It is political and is being politicized in the wrong way.
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 02:38 AM
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4. I was getting upset at those ads...
but now I say let him run on that...he can't run on anything else...

He can't run on:
Jobs
Healthcare
The Economy
The war in Iraq
Education
The Enviornment
etc...

So let him run those ads that show he was a failure of a leader that day...let the whore media put on a handful of people who think it's ok...the real people will voice their opinions at the polls...

In my mind he was no leader that day...sitting in a classroom...a target...while 3000+ people were slaughtered at the WTC, The Pentagon & PA...
If you ask me the true leader that day was Rudy Giuliani...even though he's a republican...he showed true leadership...actually going to the site before the dust had a chance to settle...

(From Time.com person of the year issue...)
Sixteen hours had passed since the Twin Towers crumbled and fell, and people kept telling Rudy Giuliani to get some rest. The indomitable mayor of New York had spent the day and night holding his city together. He raced to the scene as the second plane hit, watched human beings drop from the sky, and nearly got trapped inside his makeshift command center when the south tower imploded. Then he led a battered platoon of city officials, reporters and civilians north through the blizzard of ash and smoke, and a detective jimmied open the door to an old firehouse so the mayor could revive his government there.

Read the full story

Where was BushCo...?...hiding in a bunker...
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 03:05 AM
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6. and don't forget Bill Clinton
Didn't he make it to NY faster coming from India than The Coward did, coming via Omaha?! LOL!

Oh man, what a sad, sick record this schmuck has to run on. The worst job in the world has to be that of making him look legitimate.


Cher

p.s. bigidea, one of your ads would be just the ticket!
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Valerie5555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 03:38 AM
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11. Thought William Clinton or dear old Big Dog
rapidly "woofed" his way out of Australia.



I still wondered what happened had prostate cancer knocked his Rudyship out of the picture, as in forcing him to be AWML or Absent with Medical Leave that day, wondered if the leader figure would have been "Interim President" Hillary Clinton.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 09:27 AM
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18. you are right
he was half way 'round the world and still got to NYC a day or two faster.

i'm in nyc and there were tons of people wondering where the fvck was *? sure, he hates the city, but at least make a perfunctory cameo ...


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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 03:29 AM
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8. He was responsible for the deaths of around 3000 of my people....;
I agree; if the noose fits, wear it. And he wears it so well.

Hasta la vista,:kick:Georgie!
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 05:18 AM
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14. The Democrats have...
...joined with Bush* and are also using 9-11 for political gain. Dems seem to love the idea that 'everything has changed' and use it to their advantage when THEY campaign for office.

- The Democratic faithful just don't seem to get it (yet) that they've been betrayed.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 08:59 AM
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15. they will bash Bush for using it, but they will also do what you suggest
I fully expect Kerry to use Sept. 11 against Bush.

The media will decry his "hypocrisy" in bashing Bush but using the same kind of tactics himself, but I'm sure that Kerry is aware that the media is just as determined this time as they were with Gore to criticize him no matter what he does.

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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 01:28 PM
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19. Well anything Kerry says...or his spokespeople
should be prefaced with...."Mr. Bush mislead the American people shortly after 9/11 by stating he would not politicize his failure to protect our country and it's citizens from attack. We took him at his word...which history has proved, was a mistake. Since he broke his word our tacit agreement to follow suit has been invalidated. As Mr. Bush has made the peculiar choice to paint the deaths of 3000 American citizens as a testament to his success as president, we are honor bound to take exception to this intentional misdirection and address it with all the vigor it deserves." These words should be a talking point...which is drilled into all Democratic spokespeople skulls. It should be a requirement that any and all who speak for the Democratic party recite it by wrote any time they are within pickup distance of a microphone.

The reason the media is successful in decrying Democratic "hypocrisy" is that Democrats are willing to allow them to do so. Taking the "high road" in it's current incarnation allows for no offensive words or endeavors. This course of inaction allows the competition to exclusively frame debate. The result is and has been our alienation in the eyes of the rest of the world...and subsequently makes us the target of hostility...warrented or not. Allowing a group of psychopaths to endanger our lives unchallenged is not what I would describe as the "high road". Quite the contrary.

How can I trust Kerry and the Democrats to protect my family and I from the international threats those in government claim we are faced with if they haven't even got the balls to confront those in our own country who are for the most part responsible for them?

RC
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 09:14 AM
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17. Look what a rethug said to me about this...
---------------------------------------------------------------------
tell that to the victims who feel 9/11 is being forgotten, not me.

I still don't know how you feel about Kerry "politicizing" Vietnam for his campaign.

Do you feel as strongly about him as you do Bush?

Did you know clinton used the OK City bombing in his re-election? How do you feel about that?

And FDR actually had a campaign button made with his picture on it with the words "Pearl Harbor" for his re-election campaign.

Where do you stand on that?


The REAL problem is that Kerry's record doesn't stand up to Bush's and THAT'S the problem the Democrats have.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa...?
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 01:29 PM
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20. That about sais it all
Whaaaaa?

RC
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 01:45 PM
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22. The fuss is a good thing
It's a good thing because (1) it gets the idea out there that Bush & Co. are only too eager to use 9/11 to run on; (2) it opens the door for the Democratic candidate to raise the 9/11 issue and the myriad ways that Bush & Co. failed us before that day, on that day, and after that day, to wit:


  • Before 9/11:

    • intelligence warnings, from many international agencies as well as our own, about an impending attack

      • vacationing for the month of August in Crawford -- not to mention his % of vacation time to date
      • Ashcroft stopped using commercial flights
      • knowledge of potential of airplanes to be used as weapons (Genoa, anyone?)
      • putting the fight against Al Qaeda on the back burner -- and pretending not to have heard of Al Qaeda later (oh, if only someone could get that video clip of him pronouncing it as though he had never heard their name before; because now we know without a doubt that he had)

    • on his watch, the FBI officer in DC who actively blocked investigation into Mossaoui (sp?) was PROMOTED, while the agents in Minnesota joked ruefully that A.Q. had a "mole in Washington"
    • on his watch, the Phoenix memo was ignored
    • and lest we forget, he was negotiating with the Taliban before this horrendous event -- why? and did his threat of a "carpet of bombs" blow up in his face -- and in all of our faces?

  • On 9/11:

    • the biggest security failure since Pearl Harbor

      • he can't try and palm it off on "the previous administration" -- how many months do you have to be in office (8 mos. in this case) before you're actually responsible for what happens?

    • continued into Booker Elementary even though notified of first plane hitting the WTC

      • did he know that other planes had been hijacked?
      • if so, why did he continue with the photo op?
      • if not, why not? he's the CIC -- if he was not in charge, who was? if someone else was in charge -- or if no one else was in charge -- wasn't that a breakdown in the chain of command? and has anyone been held accountable for that breakdown?

    • continued the classroom session for 20 minutes (we need to make sure we get this time right and can document it) after being informed of the second plane hitting the WTC

      • again the question -- why? who was in charge during that time? and if it wasn't our CIC, wasn't that a breakdown in the chain of command?

    • continued with the photo op with the children, then stated he would have "something to say later" about the attacks
    • disappeared on AF1 for the entire day

      • we all remember Peter Jennings' pointed question that afternoon, "where is the President?"
      • later, Bush was quoted stating that he was "trying to stay out of harm's way" -- we need to find a clip, and use it...

    • compare the response of fighter planes to Stewart Payne's runaway Lear Jet, with the non-response of fighter planes when 4 US commercial flights were HIJACKED and -- certainly after the first one hit the WTC -- KNOWN to be used as weapons of attack

  • After 9/11:

    • let the money trail re: "put" options on AAL and UAL grow cold
    • resisted a Dept of Homeland Security -- then took credit for creating it grudgingly (and used it to remove union protections from a majority of its workers)
    • promised NYC billions of dollars, of which only half (?again, someone needs to fill in the correct numbers here) ever materialized
    • gave local emergency responders more responsibility in national emergencies -- but did not increase funding for same
    • did not increase inspections of containers coming into the U.S. -- still only 2% are inspected
    • stated he wanted to get Osama bin Laden "dead or alive"; later changed his tune and said "one man isn't important" (clips of both would help here)
    • allowed Osama bin Laden's relatives and their entourage safe passage out of the country via AIRPLANES when the air space was closed to the rest of us
    • James Baker's firm is defending Saudi Arabia against a lawsuit brought by relatives of 9/11 victims -- include a reminder of the role James Baker played in the 2000 election fiasco in Florida
    • resisted having a 9/11 commission; then drastically underfunded it ($3M initially, compare that to the $30M initial funding for the shuttle investigation, probably best not to mention the $70M spent on the Clinton investigation as that is a distraction -- but still)
    • attacked Iraq for reasons now shown to be false, and knowing that Iraq was *not* a part of the Al Qaeda network

      • using our troops for purposes tangential to real national security
      • manipulating intelligence for their own purposes
      • and of course, this ties directly into the Niger/Uranium claims, and the resulting Valerie Plame outing -- how's that for protection our national security?

        • make people aware of PNAC, their "another Pearl Harbor" remark, their agenda, and how long they've been at it
        • make people aware of the early planning for the Iraq invasion


    • the infamous "Lucky me, I hit the trifecta!" remark
    • the infamous "It's been a great year for Laura and me." remark



Ah well. I'm sure others on this board can fill out this list. In fact, I can envision three ads: one each attacking him on his leadership in the area of national security *before* 9/11, *on the day* of 9/11, and *after* 9/11. There is a huge amount of material. We don't have to try and press any tinfoil hat issues (e.g., LIHOP or MIHOP) because none of that is provable (yet) anyway. Just the facts -- they're damning as they stand. And don't forget to bring up the issue of *responsibility* and how many layers of this administration seem to successfully avoid accountability!

And of course, the Democratic candidate will have to have his answers honed when attacked back: what would you have done differently? aren't you denigrating the troops? how dare you politicize 9/11? etc., etc.

But my point is this: they've opened the door, and they've propped it open. They have refused to take 9/11 off the table. So be it. Bush & Co. want to run on *this* record regarding our national security??? Take it to 'em.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 05:33 PM
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28. The fuss over the ads isn't....the actions you describe are
That is my point. If we get sucked in to making a fuss about the ads we prevent ourselves from engaging in the course of action you so eloquently and completely describe, without being labled hypocrits...which is exactly the scenario the right wing media is crafting. They are handing out rope and the Dems are tying it around thier necks.

RC
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 06:08 PM
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30. Ah, gotcha
We agree then. But the fuss -- and the Bush & Co. reaction -- does allow the Democrats to take the high road. "We tried to stick to not politicizing 9/11, but the other side insisted. So we have to address it."

he he
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 02:15 PM
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23. So the idea is to blame the Dems for the commercials?
C'mon. When Bush announced he would not use 9-11 as a political tool most Dems (especially here at DU) laughed our asses off in disbelief. Don't you see the attacks on Bush's ads as being one front in an effective fight against Bush?
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 04:18 PM
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26. I don't recall saying that...that is something you said not something
I said. Don't attempt to reframe my argument. I'll call you on it every time....a practice I would highly recommend to my Democratic brethren.

That said..No I don't see "the attacks" on Bush's ads as being the least bit productive. As in a legal trial Bush has opened the door to a line of questioning, which the prosecution was not allowed to persue...a line of questioning that will do him serious harm. Would it be wise in such a trial for the prosecuting attorney to seek to close that door? To complain about Bush being stupid enough to give him such an opening? Certainly it would not.

That is the point. The Republican controlled media is attempting to push Democrats into doing that very thing.....and if they succeed the very door Bush has stupidly opened, opened on a failed gamble that such an approach would garner favor, the Democrats will stupidly close. Karl Rove is not an ignorant man...he knew he would be walking a tight rope with such ads...he knew that he stood a fair chance of pissing people off and knew he must have a backup plan if such a thing came to pass. The backup plan is to have his media minions create a tar baby for the Dems to wack, kick and get stuck in.
That tar baby is air time and encouragement by Press minions to Democratic spokes people to castigate mention of 9/11 in the campaign for the presidency.

Democrats should NEVER express outrage over these commercials but graciously thank Mr. Bush for bringing his failure to protect our nation into the realm of acceptable presidential campaign debate. This failure should now be hammered on continuously until the election. The fact that the little asshole believes his failure defines him favorably as a president "for these changing times" should as well.

RC
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 01:23 AM
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32. I did not reframe what you said.
Here are your words: "Dems should have been smart enough not to get sucked in....again. As soon as Bush said he wouldn't politicize the issue it should have been assumed by anyone with a brain that that is exactly what he intended to do..."

"How can the Democratic disinterest in holding him publicly responsible for this failure be construed as traveling the high road? Why is the Democratic party not producing commercials which describe his actions during the attack and his administrations efforts to impede investigations into the circumstances which preceded it?"

Seems to me you are bashing the Dems over their response to Bush's election ads.

Whether you are or you are not, I disagree that the Dems should keep mum about the ads. I believe the Dems should attack Bush on that front as well as on a number of other fronts.

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 02:37 PM
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24. only thing gets me is that it smacks of "personality cult".....n/t
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 07:24 PM
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31. How so do you mean?
If a man is a lier, cheat and thief and he also happens to be responsible for everyone in my nations safety those defining elements of his personality are definitely worthy of consideration....and most assuredly mention.

If your daughter is dating a convicted wife beater and child rapist would it not be advisable to point out to your daughter the dangers of partnering with an individual sporting these rather distasteful personality traits?

Perhaps I am not understanding you correctly.

RC
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-07-04 04:46 PM
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27. the edited version
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 01:39 AM
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33. The bottom line is it is offensive to those who lost people
That being the case, it is only reasonable to pull the ads and simply apologize saying that was not the intention, but since it was the effect, we heed to the voices of America and will no longer play them.

Instead, they said, fuck the mourning, we are right.
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