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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 02:29 PM
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Know thine enemy -- How Rush is herding the sheep
The talking point today is that the 9/11 widows on teevee are democrat plants, just spouting talking points. (Irony right there!). He had the supposed brother of a firefighter on talking some seriously scary stuff..."We should build a bigger tower at ground zero and say 'Let's see you take THAT down!'" Hmmm. I wonder what the insurance on THAT place would be?

But it got scarier, before someone probably flash a message on his screen and reminded him they were actually talking on air, and probably not helping the cause...they both started on a rant about the whiny 9/11 families, andwhy they think they're entitled to tell anyone what to use in ads or what to do with the former WTC site. My god, it reminded me of Bush mocking the death row inmate..."Please don't kill me!" I was shocked to hear such a bizarre angle on this, in light of the current controversy over the Bush ads. Hearing it fifteen minute after the Coulter rant on CNN didn't help.

The party line, at least on Rush, is that the Democrats are demanding that a) The dems are saying 9/11 shouldn't be mentioned at all in the campaign and b) The dems are claiming Bush was reading a book at the time of the attack...so what? He had to be doing something. What was FDR doing? What difference does it make what Bush was doing at the time of the attack, it is his leadership SINCE that counts. Note he lumps the two attacks into "the attack," conveniently leaving out the fact that Bush was reading the story AFTER he knew of the first attack; and that the issue isn't of him reading, it is about his NOT STOPPING THE READING UPON HEARING THE NATION WAS UNDER ATTACK.

This is how we're being framed. And quite frankly, if I believed this is what any of us were about, I wouldn't want to be a democrat either.

Rush, I hope your screeners and searchers are reading this. You are despicable, and what you are doing to this country is absolutely disgraceful. You darken the American Flag with the blood of our young soldiers when you support the lying Bush cabal in this manner.

I'd rather listen to three days of Stern doing anal ring toss than listen to three minutes of your brand of hate and fearmongering.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 02:32 PM
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1. And to Rush I would say...
"what does your rant have to do with putting people back to work?"
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 02:35 PM
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2. i heard 1 minute of him today-
he had on a big mouthed fire fighter that was all hugs and kisses over bush...ickkkkk
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John BigBootay Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 02:35 PM
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3. Agree w/ you about Rush-- disagree about the video
I saw the ad-- it didn't bother me.

I obviously can't speak for the victim's families, but I suspect some are bothered and some are not. All in all, let's say several thousand family members are upset by the ad and have a legitiimate grievance.

Is that cause to pull it?

I guess that's for Bush to decide.

One could also make the claim that any ad with Kerry patrolling around in Viet Nam could outrage vets or families who lost loved ones there.

Is that cause to pull those ads?

I guess that's for Kerry to decide.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 03:17 PM
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8. But *&Co. keep telling us that they aren't using 9/11 politically.
But they use it in their first commercial.

I'm so confused.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 04:00 PM
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10. The bush camp was specifically stating that 9-11 and...
Ground Zero were off limits politically. But, as usual, they lied.

They should also mention that bush came to a bunker in NE as opposed doing what any real leader would have done; go either to DC or NYC & act like a leader.

He is, and always was, an inept coward that has failed at EVERYTHING he has encountered.

O8)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 02:39 PM
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4. Just convincing the already convinced
I listen the Hannity (samd spew) on the way home from work and they aren't convincing anyone of anything. The problem however is that they repeat it so often that it slows sludges its way into actual news reports (GOre and the internet).

Rush doesn't know what he is talking about.
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 02:48 PM
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5. If Kerry, say, ran the same ad.....
then it would be 'tasteless, despicable..yadda yadda yadda'
same ol' same ol' - if it's a Democrat it is 'bad', no critical evaluation whatsoever....; ..........the fat bastard!!! ...
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 03:06 PM
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6. luckily for us......
....nobody but braindead rednecks cares what a pill-popping propogandist has to say.

rush is human garbage, and after november i hope kerry will investigate and expose the bush crime family and prosecute rush for his drug felonies....then rush and the bush cabal can share a prison cell.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 03:12 PM
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7. My wife and I had Rush on in the car....
on the way back from an appointment, and Rush was talking about how got rid of Hitler and the Emperor Hirohito after WWII....My wife turns and says, "We didn't get rid of Hirohito...we left him as Emperor"....Of course, no one was there to question whether he was right or wrong. How often does this happen in a "normal" day?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 03:55 PM
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9. Yes, Hirohito remained as Emperor...
and we never got Hitler, he committed suicide. Mussolini was hauled up and killed, but we had nothing to do with that either.

Where do they get6 this stuff from? Oh, wait, like Charlie Rangel said to Hannity, they make it up.

O8)
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 04:14 PM
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11. It wasn't the question of what he was doing, it's what his reaction was
AFTER HE WAS TOLD WHAT HAPPENED.

Leadership my ass!
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 04:25 PM
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12. If "the whiny 9/11 families" ...
shouldn't be expressing their thoughts on why they think they're entitled to tell anyone what to use in ads or what to do with the former WTC site - why was Rush asking the brother of a deceased fireman what his thoughts on these matters are?

I think the brother is entitled to express his thoughts. I think we should listen to the families of the people killed on this day, they were affected far more deeply than the rest of us.

But, Rush is an idiot. It appears that he thinks certain family members are entitled to express their views, and he's entitled to select that certain few.
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Sophree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 04:40 PM
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13. It's funny about those "talking points"
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 04:40 PM by Sophree
Glenn Beck was iterating the exact same ones as Rush. Criticizing 911 families as greedy. (Um, HELLLLLOOO, the 911 families who are demanding answers are the ones who declined to be paid off.) Saying that they know that some 911 families support Bush, some do not, just like the rest of the country.

The accusation that the family members were coached by the DNC would ONLY be made by someone who is not familiar with the details of that day. Any of us would have said the EXACT same things about Bush's so-called leadership that day without having to be coached. He WAS as coward. He DID sit there like an idiot while people were being murdered. He IS stonewalling the commission.

(BTW, the B*shies pulled the ad not out of good taste or conscience, but because they knew they'd have to deal with questions about stonewalling the 911 commission. FACT)
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