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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 07:40 AM
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Did You All Catch Bev Harris on GMA this morning?
She was fantastic. Jake Tapper interviewed her and it started with how she accidentaly came upon the Diebold files on the internet. It showed how a Computer expert in California was able to change the results of a mock election. It was Great coverage. It ended with a plug for more about Bev in the next issue of Vanity Fair.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:15 AM
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1. Calling Fredda...Oh Fredda where are you...
;-)
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:20 AM
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2. lol!
Indeed...
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:42 AM
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9. She's off with...
Tinfoil Hat and Cocoa at an emergency meeting of Diebold apologists.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:34 PM
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25. Apparently Diebold called ABC already
something about being upset that GEMS was hacked on national TV.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:36 PM
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27. at least she didn't have a junior high school student
demonstrate the hack.

that would be gloating.... :evilgrin:
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 03:33 PM
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34. And cocoa??
:)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:30 AM
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3. and one more thing....
Diebold refused to comment for the piece.... :)
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:24 AM
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4. Can't understand why I find that...
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 09:25 AM by rasputin1952
not surprising.

The backlash will be profound if tampering is verified, (to put it mildly).

O8)
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:26 AM
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5. damn
i thought it was yesterday, now I missed it twice (sorta)

<grumble grumble> Jack Tapper! nice.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:31 AM
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6. Well, It's coming up in a half hour on the West Coast
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 09:32 AM by RedEagle
If you have cable or a dish, can you catch the West Coast feed? Sorry, don't have the capability to record it in a format for the net.

About time, after telling everyone for three days, they probably won't be tuned in this morning......

Hey, was it in the first hour or the second? Thanks.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:35 AM
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7. nope ... maybe wonk is on it
i can't really complain since I got to meet her in person last week...
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:49 AM
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12. It was in the first hour..
:)
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:40 AM
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8. I Saw Her Interview, But A Question and a Comment......
Question: Why the heck is ABC just questioning her NOW???? My God, we have been hearing this for months! Is the network machine this far behind?

Comment: I have to say I was a bit dismayed that Bev did not mention the fact that Diebold is a BIG Republican contributor. I guess by NOT saying that, it gave the piece more credibility for not seeming partisan. When the average Joe finds out, or when the Drip Dip gets louder, then all will know the TRUTH.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:47 AM
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10. the CORE message of BBV is non-partisan

everyone should worry about the validity of their votes.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 03:36 PM
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35. Totally. Their choice of who they want as a candidate could be rigged too
It goes both ways. Everyone would be vulnerable to the dictating by a chosen few.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:48 AM
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11. the major media has been ignoring this issue for quite a while
the answer is the same as to why bush* gets next to zero negative exposure. We have corporate owned media whores for the most part. I think today was huge in terms of getting the word out.

I am hoping Lou Dobbs picks up on the GOP contribution/voting-machine Company connections. I have e-mailed him about it.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:24 AM
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13. The wedge that pushed the story to the networks
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 10:26 AM by plan9_pub
to cover the story was next month's Vanity Fair story. VF called me back in September and wanted a copy of the book galleys. I got them sent as fast as Bev could write them.

Originally, this was to be a short 3,000 word article written by a very respected writer (in fact, a demi-god of American literature). VF decided the issue was much more imporant and assigned a investigative reporter to the story. The article more than trippled in size and Shnayerson combed through Bev's research and found it sound.

So, Bev gets the credit for her tenacity and VF gets the credit for caring enough to investigate the problem and write about it.

VF's validation of Bev's work becomes the break point for TV.

Credit also goes to DU and all the folks here who helped push this project along.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org


EDIT: typos
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:44 AM
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14. Lots of people here contributed
Edited on Fri Mar-05-04 10:45 AM by RedEagle
Thanks to you David, too. Also the folks at verified voting (yay!!)and anyone who ever took the time to write/email/fax/phone legislators and the media.

Looking at the way the piece was done, Bev actually got very little of the air time, so she may have said a lot that wasn't used. However, yes, this is a non-partisan issue, and we have to wonder why some Democrat officials in Georgia are so adamantly FOR these systems.

Remember that Bev is not in control of what they use in a piece or how it gets edited. Given that fact, I thought it was extraordinary to show Bev auditing the totals then going to the RABA person who really hit the ball home.

As the issue gets more time, it will probably bring up the other questions, like, is the program code benign to begin with? Is it really checked for errors? Should democracy EVER be conducted in the dark?

FYI folks, the fight continues and both organizations need some help.
You can contribute at:

www.blackboxvoting.org

www.verifiedvoting.org

Blackboxvoting leans more to research and litigation potential, verified really hits the legislative issues home.

We need BOTH, BOTH need your help.

Every little bit counts!

Yay! Now lets see the Today Show pick this up, and wouldn't an appearance on Letterman be cool? It's no joking matter but I think Letterman would be the guy to hit the irony home.

:bounce: :bounce: :grouphug: :yourock: :yourock: :grouphug: :bounce: :bounce:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:47 AM
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15. Letterman AND Jon Stewert!

but I'm being selfish as that would require a return to NYC for the tapings!

but, I think Stewert would LOVE Bev.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:51 AM
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16. I made a joke about that last Summer...
Now it seems possible.

David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org
http://www.blackboxvoting.com
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:54 AM
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17. You're gonna get a visit.
:evilgrin:

But tell no one.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:58 AM
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19. Who? Me?


David Allen
Publisher, CEO, Janitor
Plan Nine Publishing
http://www.plan9.org
http://www.blackboxvoting.com
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:23 PM
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22. i'll just sit here singing the BBV Blues then.....
THE BBV BLUES

WELL I JUST GOT HOME FROM VOTING
AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT HAD I PLANNED TO DO
I TOUCHED THEIR SCREENS
BUT LACKED THE MEANS
TO VERIFY MY VOTE

I GOT THE BLUES
I GOT THE BBV BLUES
DON'T WANT NO BLACK BOXES CRUNCHING NUMBERS
I WANT A BALLOT YOU CAN COUNT
AND RECOUNT,
AND RECOUNT, BABY...
I WANT A PIECE OF PAPER IN MY HAND
BECAUSE THE VAPOR
THEY HAVE PLANNED FOR....
GIVES ME THE BLUES
I GOT THE ‘WHERE IS MY VOTE?' BLUES
AT LEAST YOU CAN SEE A HANGING 'CHAD'
IF WE DON'T FIGHT WE CAN BE HAD
I GOT THE BBV BLUES

lyrics copyright 2004 by Jeff Matson
All rights reserved.

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:16 PM
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20. Jon Stewert!
That would be very cool!
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:33 PM
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24. I just made the call
we shall see what happens.

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:34 PM
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26. if it happens... remember it is my dream

to see Jon wearing a "?" button ON AIR. ;-)
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:51 PM
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29. Call me please...
need to talk and you are close
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:52 PM
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30. ok n/t
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:37 PM
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28. I saw it as an excellent bit that squoze many key points
into the short one or two minutes it seemed to run.

Millions of Americans watching the numbers change on the laptop screen, 8700-8600, is . . . priceless. And the VF plug was a perfect topper.

Bev and the many others cannot be thanked enough.

Perseverance furthers.

:kick::kick::kick:
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cmayer Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 10:56 AM
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18. A lot of R's would think that rigging is great
Perhaps she thought a lot of people would think R ownership is a good thing.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:28 PM
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23. Next hopefully is 60 minutes.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 03:40 PM
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36. Bev Harris for President*****Can we get a copy of the segment?
??
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 12:22 PM
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21. Link to Jake Tapper's ABCNews story on BBV -- good stuff
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 01:12 PM
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31. Damn, I missed it!
Sounds like it went WELL, though!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 01:18 PM
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32. check out the Tapper article n/t
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 03:24 PM
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33. kick for Bev, Dave and all the others working so hard...
for Democracy!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 05:08 PM
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37. Where to get a copy of the segment?
n/t
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 08:18 PM
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38. Kick! n/t
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-05-04 09:20 PM
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39. Why wasn't the hack on every newscast and in every teaser?
Over and over again like the Wellstone "rally" or Dean's "rant". (Oh that's right Martha was convicted of being a smart rich bitch.) America is now the most evil, disfunctional familly in the world.
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