Upcoming countercultural backlash?

[Feanorcurufinwe]

Now that we are faced with endless war, American soldier's deaths becoming a routine occurence, massive disillusionment and disconnect among young people, do you thing think the stage is being set for another countercultural backlash againgst the corrupt corporacy that is increasingly controlling our lives?

[Exultant Democracy]

1. Maybe we have a sleeper on our hands

And 20 years from now they will point back to the war in Iraq as the start of the revolution.

[Skittles]

2. I HOPE SO

I TRULY DO.

[MuseRider]

3. I do hope so.

I don't think too many people will be willing to have children just for the government to use as cannon fodder. There of course are many other reasons but that one came to mind when I read your post.

[laura888]

4. yes, but unfortunately, its going to take more...

...to get young people to make the move.

Too many distractions, including media, playstation, tv, movies. It's going to have to affect their lives on a personal level.

[starroute]

5. Been expecting it for a long time

The 60's counterculture wasn't the first. These things come through on a regular cyclical basis. A counterculture arises to shake up a fossilized and corrupt society, then half its new ideas get coopted by the mainstream (while the other half get discarded), the mainstream culture develops creatively for a while as a result, but eventually it stagnates again and a new counterculture becomes necessary.

I'm figuring, though, that things could go in either of two different directions. If the result of the 2004 election is such as to lead to a period of genuine reform, the counterculture that emerges will be able to work peacefully for more radical change. But if all possibility of democratic reform is repressed, then the counterculture will be forced to take on the form of a revolutionary undergrounnd, and things could get very violent and nasty.

Frankly, I'm hoping for the first option. A lot depends on what we're able to do over the next year.

[camero]

6. There will be

Remember that children always question thier parents authority and morality.

I see the Y's questioning thier Boomer parent's selfishness.

My Bro and Sis are in thier teens and surprisingly they take my advice and not just to blindly do what I or anyone else says but to examine the logic af the advice first.

[DODI]

7. I wish

War without draft will not bring a backlash. The last backlash seemed to be a brief moment -- the leaders were killed off or jailed and the followers all grew up and started voting Republican.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

10. I wonder what the stats are on Army enlistments

I wonder what the stats are on Army enlistments over the last 12 months? I can't imagine that the images and stories on the news have been a big recruitment boost. Where are they going to get their cannon fodder?

[LifeDuringWartime]

8. Absolutely.

its about damn time, too.

[Tammuz]

9. CLEARCHANNEL will prevent it!

If it wasnt for clearchannel banning any 'unpatriotism' popular artists would release anti-war songs and they would sell by the bucketload.

Unfortuently they are all too scared to release anything anti-Bush in case of failure due to clearchannel and FOX NEWS will harp on the failure for 9 months like with Janeane Garofalo not getting her own show.

[laura888]

11. yes, I agree...

...the media is, in some ways, slowing the backlash by censoring artists who advocate regime change. If all actors/singers could speak freely, the backlash might already be happening.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

12. the revolution will not be televised nor broadcast by clearchannel

the revolution will not be televised nor broadcast by clearchannel. If a real countercultural revolution began, clearchannel would be a lot less relevant. Then they would probably do the same thing as happened in the sixties, try to co-opt some of the trappings to make a buck - but back then it just ended up spreading the core ideals farther.

[Maccagirl]

13. If it comes

It will be by the "children of the '90's," the younger brothers and sisters of Gen X or Y or whatever they call themselves. The conservative backlash against Boomers has already happened (we're in the middle of it)-so it's up to Gen "Z" to step up to the plate and right the ship.

[thermodynamic]

14. I hope so as well and for more than just the Iraq reason...

And this time around, the revolution has got to work, otherwise America's end is certain (whether by terrorists or oil shortages and either of those choices are neither I want to see).

Add to the fire that President Apostate* is giving full blessings to the corporate devils who are outsourcing good jobs and that alone should make EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN REGARDLESS OF POLITICAL BELIEF ANGRY DOWN TO THEIR VERY CORE!!!!!!!!!!! NOTHING LESS IS ACCEPTABLE!

And some of the 60s counterculturalists seemed to have become the repukes who, along with Reagan and folk, have turned this country into a cesspool due to their greed. Grace Slick is one of that lot who openly blames her old ideals on drugs and "naivity". :eyes: (she was being interviewed on a puke radio station morning show a couple years ago and she said as much!) This paragraph is technically irrelevant but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

[DBoon]

15. No

We don't have the confidence that comes from 2 decades of solid economic growth. I don't see a renewal of the sort of 60's drop-out of society thing as a result. When your economic situation is precarious, you realize that if you drop out you may never be able to drop back in


Could see a sort of 21st century version of Dada coming into vogue. The first wave was a response to WWI. Cabaret Voltaire in Switzerland, where ex-patriates opposed to WWI developed their absurdist art as a reflection of the illogic of society around them.

[Lostnote03]

16. I tend to believe...

...that we will have some serious problems in the not so distant future with the returning Iraqi soldiers....again the average age of death appears to be in the late teens and early 20's...how many Tim McVeys have been created as a result of the Bush cabals traitorous actions...

[Astarho]

17. Yes, with a but

Don't expect it to be a "60's, hippie, flower children" kind of counterculture. Expect something more like the roaring twenties with 21st century flappers (but not a clone of that either). I don't know what form it might take but it will be interesting.

Personally I would not be surprised if a middle-eastern counter culture (Not saying droves of Americans will convert to Islam) But expect a middle-eastern influece to show up in fashion, art, and especially music (in some ways that one has already started).